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[shellyc]

PlusJOYED's quickhammer was awful but I don't think dave+Plus is the team, and between them dave is the one I believe is scum.

hmmmm

who do you think is daves partner?

[shellyc]

but I don't really get the point about me avoiding voting on them?

like you're saying that they're miselimination bait but you're not doing anything to fix that, you binned them as newbtown and avoided attention on them

[duppin]

but I don't really get the point about me avoiding voting on them?

like you're saying that they're miselimination bait but you're not doing anything to fix that, you binned them as newbtown and avoided attention on them

But how am I avoiding voting on her? I said that if she is town then I think she is mislim bait which means that if she is scum then she is likely to get limmed as well. I had no scumread on her, so I just think it's a bit weird to phrase it as me avoiding voting on her

[shellyc]

But how am I avoiding voting on her? I said that if she is town then I think she is mislim bait which means that if she is scum then she is likely to get limmed as well. I had no scumread on her, so I just think it's a bit weird to phrase it as me avoiding voting on her

why did you actually townread them then? newbie pass?

[UNOwen]

who do you think is daves partner?

Either duppin or Hectic. I was thinking I must be wrong about duppin, but then bugs was killed and the paranoia duppin expressed about that kill pretty much exactly matches my reaction to it, so I will be reviewing my Hectic read.

I believe the play here is to not execute regardless, but we should actually make use of the time available to us this time.

[duppin]

Anyway I think the most obvious pair would be dave + plus. UNO could be scum but I stand by my earlier read - i think his votes sound very town. I do believe shelly is town.

Hectic I think your play has been really town overall but I must admit that the way you defended Noraa and questioned scumreads on her day 1 does bother me a bit now. It would help me a lot if you could convince me that you are indeed town and not just deep wolfing. I am very curious as to where your thoughts are at today

[shellyc]

do we massclaim here or nah?

uno why have you failed to interact with me? I feel like you're constantly *not* evaluating me for some reason

[duppin]

But how am I avoiding voting on her? I said that if she is town then I think she is mislim bait which means that if she is scum then she is likely to get limmed as well. I had no scumread on her, so I just think it's a bit weird to phrase it as me avoiding voting on her

why did you actually townread them then? newbie pass?

No I never townread her until the end of day 1 where I said I got slight town vibes from her "fire" towards BM

[shellyc]

Hectic I think your play has been really town overall but I must admit that the way you defended Noraa and questioned scumreads on her day 1 does bother me a bit now. It would help me a lot if you could convince me that you are indeed town and not just deep wolfing. I am very curious as to where your thoughts are at today

hectic was very town d1 but I think there's been a sharp dropoff in contribution and less of that town spark in hectic

[duppin]

do we massclaim here or nah?

I would personally be okay with claiming - but seeing as mafia had a doc i am not entirely sure it is the best idea to force a mass claim

[shellyc]

where I said I got slight town vibes from her "fire" towards BM

GUYS DUPPIN IS SCUM

does not warrant a TR. aggressiveness isnt alignment indicative. you're finding very stretched reasons to read people here.

[duppin]

where I said I got slight town vibes from her "fire" towards BM

GUYS DUPPIN IS SCUM

does not warrant a TR. aggressiveness isnt alignment indicative. you're finding very stretched reasons to read people here.

That's a really bad read.

[UNOwen]

do we massclaim here or nah?

uno why have you failed to interact with me? I feel like you're constantly *not* evaluating me for some reason

We have interacted before, but I have had you as town for quite a while now. Perhaps at this stage of the game that needs to be checked but just from my memory I suspect that when I review your posts I will conclude that your interactions with Noraa are not likely to be scum together.

[shellyc]

Massclaim: yay or nay?

why does mafia doc = not a good idea to massclaim btw?

[duppin]

Massclaim: yay or nay?

why does mafia doc = not a good idea to massclaim btw?

Because it could indicate there is a vigi around

[shellyc]

That's a really bad read.

I was using that to reference how you basically TR'd aggressiveness which is not alignment indicative at all, and

Noraa tunnels more as scum from my shallow metadive

forced reasons to TR scumbuddy? Check.

pedit:

if we had a vigi why do we have no double kills

[UNOwen]

Since we won't be executing, massclaim gives mafia more information for free. So I would say no but I am open to persuasion on why it is a good idea.

[duppin]

That's a really bad read.

I was using that to reference how you basically TR'd aggressiveness which is not alignment indicative at all, and

Noraa tunnels more as scum from my shallow metadive

forced reasons to TR scumbuddy? Check.

Yes and it is a terrible read. Why would I feel the need to throw a tr on a partner? She came across as very passionate to me when discussing with BM like being annoyed at BM calling out her friendship with you. I liked the fire of her tone and thought it felt slightly townie. I was clearly wrong but it is what it is.

pedit:

if we had a vigi why do we have no double kills

I do not know.

[shellyc]

if we no elim today scum likely no kills leaving us in the same spot tho

it's Miseliminate Or Lose. this is either the last day or the second last day. tbh I think we can solve this if we claim here.

[shellyc]

meh

I think im just going to end up paranoid and/or afraid if we elim today, best play is to no-execute, but scum has no incentive to kill either

[duppin]

meh

I think im just going to end up paranoid and/or afraid if we elim today, best play is to no-execute, but scum has no incentive to kill either

Sure they have as there could still be TPRs around.

[shellyc]

Town Informed GS: There is a Mafia Doctor (detects 2/3 mafia)
Town Weak FN (basically a confirmable cop if crumbing)
Town Rolestopper (tbh, strongest protective)
VTs

Against
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

is fairly balanced imo

[duppin]

Okay we should not massclaim today

[shellyc]

Okay we should not massclaim today

I know where you're heading with this but ehhhhh

I do think massclaiming here is the reasonable play fwiw. but if the consensus is no then nah no massclaim

[shellyc]

this is mine