Mini Theme 2161: Undertale C Open - Chara's Folly

[Krazy]

I wouldn't kill Catboi N1. in my mind catboi was still susp to me

which is to say in a world of scum!pooky, catboi still looked lynchable? would you say you believe you could have plausibly gotten momentum on him day 2 if he had been alive?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't see how my push on Hectic's slot is scummy. If anything it should be viewed as protown- why would a scum who needs to survive to be literally the last player standing decide to hard-push one of the best town-players in the game? It's basically suicidally stupid if I'm scum - it's not like winning the 1v1 is going to put me in a great position for the next 3 eliminations where it's much harder to survive.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

which is to say in a world of scum!pooky, catboi still looked lynchable? would you say you believe you could have plausibly gotten momentum on him day 2 if he had been alive?

He was one of the people I suspected after the ele flip, I was very surprised to see he was NKed. That's why I NKAed him - I still don't understand the NK.

He already failed to push me out on D1 so I don't really see why I would be scared enough of him to consider using a NK on him on N1.

[Lavender]

As far as I know I'm the only other person really suspicious of Chara, so hearing more about your thoughts on them would be pretty cool!

Let’s see, I don’t quite remember what they did Day 1, I remember some talking about mech and reads?
Day 2 I don’t remember anything they did at all!

So my strongest feelings are what they’re doing right now, if I didn’t skim incorrectly, seemed they disliked the scumread on them by you. o(︶︿︶)o
To me eyes it felt pretty panic-y and off ya know ya know? (O_o)

I meant to read their ISO but...
Uwah I got distracted by other things (/•＼)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what did you get distracted by? (o´ω`o)ﾉ

Was it something more interesting than this thread? (ノ_<。)ヾ(´ ▽ ` )

[Prism]

someday pooky i'm gonna read that hectic puppy progression for you

it'll probably be in the morning since i've done everything else i wanted basically with the d1 reread, not like it takes an hour

like i don't really know what there is left for me to really do at this point. i think everyone but chara is town.

the grocery shopping list is like, find something more concrete for morning. make extra, EXTRA sure on morning. try to read krazy instead of just redtea? make extra, EXTRA sure on pooky?

I just feel done tbh

[Prism]

I really think it kind of fell apart on page 148. The wall+calling it garbage immediately thereafter you can chalk up to self-esteem or lack of confidence, combined with thinking I'm town anyway. Sure, it happens, whatever

What happens when I say I'm going to respond...not so much

you're already voting me, love.
what's the point in responding to it? i don't even believe in it, ibwas just frustrated.

why do

you

care about assuaging my fears?

i'll rephrase: why do you care about convincing me you're town?

In no world was this ever going to be a "gotcha". It visibly does not know whether to try and 1v1 me and see if they can somehow survive after, or whether to just hope I go away over time. It settled on not doing so but then I position super aggressively with laughing at the wall+the turbovote comment and it immediately does this weird positioning that seems to want to push me for responding to it, even if it leaves it unsaid.

I just don't think it had any clue how to position themselves here to survive longterm. I don't think they were genuinely sorting me at all that page.

[Prism]

And like, I know it's busy. I know it's been on/off with its motivation all game. We've all been there.

But vote Pooky, Pooky if you're town... -> Oh shit Pooky actually responded to what I said and seems to have the citations for it -> Whoops uhhh tomorrow's homework -> AWOL all day

It doesn't have any clue what the path forward here is imo, like my bet is they immediately regretted giving Pooky that concrete way to change its mind

[Tanner]

i had a nightmare last night that prism was scum and won the game after getting me misexecuted in f3.

anyway i don't think anything in the past ~3 pages chnaged my mind on like anything. prism, you said you were gonna do some super detailed case about chara on the first 7 pages or something? convince me to change my vote somewhere? please????

does anyone need me to do anything

we have less than 2 days btw!!!

(am i more town now)

anyway cheers

[Isis]

Nachomamma8 replaces Chara effective immediately

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh oh

Hope everything will be fine Chara <3

[Morning Tweet]

i hope you're doing alright Chara

[Nachomamma8]

Pooky, I'll follow your vote if you head somewhere that isn't Hectic. You seem town based on the conversations people are having around you in the last few pages, but your Hectic case does not slap and Hectic individually seems town on a skim. Where else shall we go?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I dunno I'm pretty lost tbh

[Morning Tweet]

oh this'll be fun

i suggest starting with Krazy even though I think he's town for undescribable reasons. That, or you can do me because if you push me I'll feel more validated voting one of you two. and less confused :C

[Nachomamma8]

y'all are boring.

puppy's early game seems pretty Tanner-centric for someone who knows he's dying soon so I doubt Tanner is scum here. Why are people clearing lavender?

[Nachomamma8]

pooky's early posting is fantastic, i love it!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are like the only person who's ever said that :3

[Isis]

Alisae replaces Prism effective immediately

[Alisae]

/me waves

[Nachomamma8]

HURT: Lavender

Scumteam had a weird strategy going into this. Elements and Puppy tried for a mutual bus to give Puppy the credit to get spared the next day, but seemed to only half-do it. If Puppy had a strong scumpartner (aka any of the players with a big ol' chunk of posts this game), I don't think it unfolds the way it does - they would be encouraged to either press it harder or drop it completely. Catboi kill N1 was silly; as Pooky pointed out, catboi was a high town read but most certainly not unmislynchable like many others that are still alive.

It's not Tanner because of early Puppy/him interactions. It's not Prism because hyperposting. It's not Pooky because I think Pooky makes an effort to make a bigger splash play centering around the Chara role, and I don't think Pooky hangs out on Hectic the day after the Taylor Swift lynch. It's not Hectic because my heart tells me it's not Hectic.

The things that strongly point me towards Lavender are the early townread on Puppy, which I think happened because Elements said in the scum PT that the strategy was to get Puppy cred then get him spared the next day. I don't think town!Lavender's only read that they express any significant amount of attachment to is a townread on the "if town spares here they lose" guy.

No flipped scum made a run at Lavender, which is kind of crazy when they are the definition on low hanging fruit - whenever beeboy or Puppy mentioned them, it was always attached in a group with other lurkers.

And finally, there's no one else who would have forgotten to submit the N2 kill. There's no reason to pass up on a kill in that situation when it's a kill you very desperately need to silence some town voices.

[Nachomamma8]

/me waves

hi!

come vote with me!

[Hectic]

Woah. Is this an alternate reality?

Goodbye, Chara and Prism. I guess their lover bond transcended the game. This music is so fitting, Pooky, thank you for taking up the DJ role.

[Nachomamma8]

hello hectic!

[Hectic]

Could you both tell me what you think of my Pooky-case? I think it's him, but if not, probably Lavender. Also, I should really read why Prism so strongly though it was Chara and get back to you.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12194871

Pedit: Hello again!