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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:33 pm

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In post 1273, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1271, Battle Mage wrote:lol dude i dont care about your ego stuff. i just tell it like it is. massclaim was a dumb idea for town. you probably shouldnt even be shooting tonight given the odds of hitting scum compared to town are so low. im sure you will though to make yourself feel powerful. :lol:
Eh, we’ll see. But this shows your out of touchness.

I usually holster N1 Vig shots.
nah dude, you're just misguided. but it's ok. :D
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:33 pm

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In post 1274, Flavor Leaf wrote:So Johnny or Ydrasse, which is scum for you, BM?
johnny, unless Ydrasse claims Mafia Doctor lol
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:34 pm

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In post 1275, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1273, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1271, Battle Mage wrote:lol dude i dont care about your ego stuff. i just tell it like it is. massclaim was a dumb idea for town. you probably shouldnt even be shooting tonight given the odds of hitting scum compared to town are so low. im sure you will though to make yourself feel powerful. :lol:
Eh, we’ll see. But this shows your out of touchness.

I usually holster N1 Vig shots.
nah dude, you're just misguided. but it's ok. :D
Tell that to my numerous amounts of solves and victorious town performances. :shrug:

Guess you just can’t comprehend what you can’t understand even if there are facts to prove it.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 1276, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1274, Flavor Leaf wrote:So Johnny or Ydrasse, which is scum for you, BM?
johnny, unless Ydrasse claims Mafia Doctor lol
Fair, but it does nothing for the game for me to mention this prior to the end of mass claim, which we just need 3 more to do so.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:38 pm

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As the Doctor of Scumonomics, I’ve learned there’s a power to holding specific card to your chest in order to get to a point in the game to survive until a solve is ready, so because I know my cunning level is maxed out, there are just things I’m able to push as own that other Can’t, and this goes both ways.

I can’t be a vigilante with a confirmed kill on scum without people wondering if I shot my own teammate. Happens way more often than you’d think.

But like, for that to have happened here, you’d have to believe I replaced in night 1, and convinced Golden, who had been here, that it’s a good idea for us to kill him to give me town cred.

I’m an extreme team player when it comes to being scum unless I see detriment in a partner.

Golden is never a detriment.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:46 pm

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In post 1279, Flavor Leaf wrote:As the Doctor of Scumonomics, I’ve learned there’s a power to holding specific card to your chest in order to get to a point in the game to survive until a solve is ready, so because I know my cunning level is maxed out, there are just things I’m able to push as own that other Can’t, and this goes both ways.

I can’t be a vigilante with a confirmed kill on scum without people wondering if I shot my own teammate. Happens way more often than you’d think.

But like, for that to have happened here, you’d have to believe I replaced in night 1, and convinced Golden, who had been here, that it’s a good idea for us to kill him to give me town cred.

I’m an extreme team player when it comes to being scum unless I see detriment in a partner.

Golden is never a detriment.
it would be a bad play for you, you'd never survive LyLo here.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:48 pm

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In post 1280, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1279, Flavor Leaf wrote:As the Doctor of Scumonomics, I’ve learned there’s a power to holding specific card to your chest in order to get to a point in the game to survive until a solve is ready, so because I know my cunning level is maxed out, there are just things I’m able to push as own that other Can’t, and this goes both ways.

I can’t be a vigilante with a confirmed kill on scum without people wondering if I shot my own teammate. Happens way more often than you’d think.

But like, for that to have happened here, you’d have to believe I replaced in night 1, and convinced Golden, who had been here, that it’s a good idea for us to kill him to give me town cred.

I’m an extreme team player when it comes to being scum unless I see detriment in a partner.

Golden is never a detriment.
it would be a bad play for you, you'd never survive LyLo here.

Exactly! Now we’re on the same page.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:50 pm

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I don’t get to 3p lylo often as scum. I try to end games as early as possible, which I usually have decent success with. The games I have won in 3p lylo, were won for the conjunction of strategically losing scum members for damage control so I’d be untouchable in lylo, which happens.

You can see far in advance who would be voted in specific scenarios.

I can probably count the amount of times on one hand I’ve been in 3p lylo.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:51 pm

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In post 1277, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1275, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1273, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1271, Battle Mage wrote:lol dude i dont care about your ego stuff. i just tell it like it is. massclaim was a dumb idea for town. you probably shouldnt even be shooting tonight given the odds of hitting scum compared to town are so low. im sure you will though to make yourself feel powerful. :lol:
Eh, we’ll see. But this shows your out of touchness.

I usually holster N1 Vig shots.
nah dude, you're just misguided. but it's ok. :D
Tell that to my numerous amounts of solves and victorious town performances. :shrug:

Guess you just can’t comprehend what you can’t understand even if there are facts to prove it.
so you won some games, but that doesnt mean you're right about everything. the fact you argue otherwise is a good example of why im not overwhelmed with the logic you've used in this game. in the cases above, you're wrong. being condescending about it is fine, but you notice this game has gone from being really vibrant to completely dead, and i dont think thats a coincidence. :yawn:

even a shitty player like me solves some games and gets some stuff right. :roll:
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:05 pm

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And I disagree that I am wrong.

My reads and reevaluation in regards to both you and Taylor also show that I can move on when it’s time too. I don’t ever assume I’m correct in the way too deep solves, but I will uncover truths and get closer to a solve, there’s no doubt about that.

You can’t even explain why it’s wrong, you just have it so ingrained with “the right way” that it’s essentially brainwashed you into thinking it’s the only way, but that couldn’t be further from the case.

You aren’t the first to say stuff like this, you won’t be the last. They all are proven wrong.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:06 pm

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Yeah, I was gone for a day and a half, nearly 2, and as soon as I got back, it spiked up again, and we got some MORE CLAIMS YOOOOO!!!

Nah, I actually liked what I read in those 2 days, but it was slower, you right
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:09 pm

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Also, there was like 20 something pages Day 1 on an obv town slot, so I really don’t understand your “things were going great before you showed up!”

But without me being here, Golden would still be across the room, stringing the game along to scum’s liking.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:09 pm

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You just gotta move past whatever hold up you got, to be honest, and start worrying more about the game than my playstyle.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:11 pm

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Because I believe everyone is able to see why my reads are where they are, and at least understand from my perspective why I have each of the reads I do.

I don’t believe the same can be said from your slot, so stop worrying about my playstyle being incomprehensible for you, and start finding scum.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:11 pm

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Not feeling as excited I thought I would be with this massclaim.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:12 pm

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FL: Vig
Johnny: Informed Miller
Taylor: Tracker
BM: VT
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Gamma: VT
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Ydrasse: Protective
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:12 pm

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Maybe this is a game scum is just staying down?
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:12 pm

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In post 1289, Creature wrote:Not feeling as excited I thought I would be with this massclaim.
It’s already almost done.

Bob isn’t claiming, so just you, Osuka, and Mini.
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:12 pm

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Osuka and Pooky?
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm

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In post 1291, Creature wrote:Maybe this is a game scum is just staying down?
I believe that’s the effect of having a scum partner night killed, and then not having their kill go through.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm

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In post 1292, Flavor Leaf wrote:Bob isn’t claiming
Did he give up as scum?
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:15 pm

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Also I won't bother much with the consequences of a massclaim, I hope you know what to do next.

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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:16 pm

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In post 1294, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1291, Creature wrote:Maybe this is a game scum is just staying down?
I believe that’s the effect of having a scum partner night killed, and then not having their kill go through.
Perhaps, but it's also because town is kinda imploding.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 1295, Creature wrote:
In post 1292, Flavor Leaf wrote:Bob isn’t claiming
Did he give up as scum?
He “thinks” it’s super hurtful to town, but he got popcorned to real early, so I feel there’s just the likelihood he wanted to try to make it not go through so he wouldn’t get countered.


Also, note how he mentioned early Day 2 that he was gonna push GoldenParadox today, on top of calling Golden “obv scum” when I brought up shooting him.

I think Bob just saw the Scummieness in his partner moreso than most, so I’m still leaning ScumBob.

I think Taylor has been pretty townie, and the tracker claim the way she did also seemed genuine as town, and Johnny’s talk about being Miller and claiming out of nowhere like they did after I did, is something I see as townie.

Ydrasse claimed to be protective, so unless another person claims it, they are confirmed town, alongside their target, who if Ydrasse is town, scum know who that target is.

Bob is scum, I think there’s potential for Gamma, but I’m always paranoid of Gamma when I’m town until I start soul reading him.

Creature could be scum, but i kinda like how you’re handling this, and I generally want to read you as town, and when you’re scum, I usually hard town read you.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:18 pm

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In post 1297, Creature wrote:
In post 1294, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1291, Creature wrote:Maybe this is a game scum is just staying down?
I believe that’s the effect of having a scum partner night killed, and then not having their kill go through.
Perhaps, but it's also because town is kinda imploding.
FL: Vig
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Ydrasse: Protective


I just think BM is town imploding, and that’s it really.
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