Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[Albert B. Rampage]

I hope I'll have as much fun catching your buddies.

link to VC on this page

[Fun and Games]

oh, deflection, is it? I didn't see that coming.

Asking you for your best reason to elim me isn't deflection. It's basic accountability.

[Fun and Games]

It's almost comical how bad this push on me is :3

[Albert B. Rampage]

When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.

[Fun and Games]

When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.

So your best reason for wanting me Elim'd is because you think I'm too logically consistent?

[Fun and Games]

Wait why is everyone afraid of us?

I'll do one too!

Town: penguin, gamma, cmod
Slightly lesser town: iks, nos, bingle, sircakez
Idk: ydrasse, pine
Scummy: abr, johnny

~ skitter

from a full week ago, ty ?

also notice how bingle is a townread here?
....

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

When your "townreads" do new things that appear suspicious, I expect you to comment on it or think to yourself, hey maybe I was wrong about someone I thought was completely town. It doesn't make sense you hardtownread penguin and cakez and suspect me johnny and bingle. Your play is very safe. Consistent and safe, so much so that it's not scumhunting to me.

like you're literally complaining that i haven't done things that i've very loudly done so like ...

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

[Fun and Games]

Our reads have evolved though. You can see bingle used to be lesser town on our readlist and now we are pushing for him being elim'd.

[Nosferatu]

There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

mixed met·a·phor
/ˈˌmiks(t) ˈmedəfər/
noun
noun: mixed metaphor; plural noun: mixed metaphors
a combination of two or more incompatible metaphors, which produces a ridiculous effect (e.g., this tower of strength will forge ahead ).

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright, there's no scenario where I'm unvoting you so let's just get on with it. Go get people to defend you and we'll see where the chips fall.

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.042
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Chara	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Chara
Bingle	PenguinPower, SirCakez, Fun and Games, Nosferatu	EL-3	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	None	EL-7	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	Bingle	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	Albert B. Rampage, Noraa, CreativeMod1, JohnnyFarrar, Gamma Emerald	EL-2	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	I Keep Siteflaking	EL-6	3	3	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	None	EL-7	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Chara
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-14 12:10:00)
Notes: Currently searching for a replacement for Chara. pagetops: Lilith 29 | penguin 15 | ABR 5 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | bingle 1 | iks 1 | cakez 1 | noraa 1

[Albert B. Rampage]

Our reads have evolved though. You can see bingle used to be lesser town on our readlist and now we are pushing for him being elim'd.

The context I'm referring to is cakez and penguin, not bingle.

[Fun and Games]

It's not really a pro-town mindframe to break off engagement when you can't come up with a single good reason for pushing an elim. Looks shady af.

[SirCakez]

Put yourself in my chair. You were part of the people today who didn't want to lead bandwagons or mix things up, contributing to the staleness you criticized. For the past 2 weeks, all you did was pile onto people who were being voted already and had high odds of being lynched. And now you come out of the shadows to defend F&G who you never townread, and act more aggressively than your ordinary meta to get your way, and this is without even following who's voting who. Then you get a pass from F&G after all this. I'm trying to weigh the contradictions. Walk me through what you're trying to achieve here.

yeah I joined different wagons because I wanted something to go through so we could progress
now a wagon is finally moving on one person who I am not interesting in elimming (when there are several others I would) so ofc I'm gonna push back
I also don't see how this is different from "my nomral meta"

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's been no evolution in your reads at all because that's what you need it to be to get to where you want to go. I'm just telling you how it comes off. Take it or leave the kitchen if you can't handle the heat.

mixed met·a·phor
/ˈˌmiks(t) ˈmedəfər/
noun
noun: mixed metaphor; plural noun: mixed metaphors
a combination of two or more incompatible metaphors, which produces a ridiculous effect (e.g., this tower of strength will forge ahead ).

I should have said "take it with a grain of salt or leave the kitchen" to get the triple double.

[Fun and Games]

The context I'm referring to is cakez and penguin, not bingle.

well you were talking about all of our reads, now you're talking about specifically the reads that did not change.

Congrats ABR, you are correct - we have people on our readlsist that did not change. You see our readslist is based on actual actions and thought and we don't randomly shuffle people around for fun

[SirCakez]

I've never ever seen cakez say "hey you can't vote for w, your options are x, y, and z". Even if he has done this before, the timing is off when w is definitely on the table at the time he said it wasn't. It's what I refer to as a decision point. Manipulating a decision point when the winds are blowing in different directions are what scum do to help town lynch themselves.

i was trying to get the game moving to avoid a NL and picked three people I thought were global scumreads
because if you don't narrow down options that's how you get five vanity wagons at deadline

[Fun and Games]

So just to make sure I'm getting you completely straight.

You want us to be elim'd because 2 of our reads (specifically Penguin/Cakez) did not change ? You think this is a good reason for pushing an elim? :3

[SirCakez]

I agree that all of F&G's townreads being people not interested in elimming them is off

[Albert B. Rampage]

To make a long story short, I think your reads are fabricated.

[Fun and Games]

oh ok now we're getting somewhere.

Which one do you think is fake? Let's go through the reasoning and you can let us know what's fake.

[SirCakez]

ABR doesn't it feel weird to you how this wagon only formed within a day of deadline though?

[Albert B. Rampage]

I've never been good at explaining my reasons in the first place, I'm more of a blunt instrument pushing through the squalor to get to the gold.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR doesn't it feel weird to you how this wagon only formed within a day of deadline though?

The deadline is paused. We have time back on our side.