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[wiyvern]

For herta, my read is the same as most of the thread, I think he's prob scum. The post where he listed "suspicions" or whatever was talking about profile pics more than anything else and then after the supposed scumslip, I don't think they ever explained the post until some time after they basically accused the people voting them. which is omgus I think and it kinda seemed like cornered scum to me.

Echo could go either way for me aorn, them not voting herta is weird, and focusing on inactive slots could be a way to take some pressure off of their possible scummate herta. I'm saying it could go either way because I liked some of their earlier posts, although this is a gut read, so it may not be that great.

I would just shoot herta here if I could because it would clear up a lot of stuff

ehhhh this is decent but also pretty consensus-y

this was less effective than I thought

K, have any other things to ask me about?

[wiyvern]

Or anyone else can ask me stuff if they want.

[wiyvern]

I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes

[NoPowerOverMe]

Mafia isn't about being nice it's about finding scum.

my point was not "be nice you assholes"
my point was moreso implying that shelly was purposefully picking on a newbie bc setting those up as limbait is generally very easy.

Maybe but newb can be scum too and they may have experience on other sites or it could be an alt.

[Noraa]

their tone is newbie tone. if shelly is scum like I think she is, then imo here she is just setting up limbait

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.4

Herta (4) - redcardinal, shellyc, Primate, NoPowerOverMe
EchoVision (2) - Rannygazoo, Titus
Iconeum (1) - EchoVision
redcardinal (1) - Noraa
Assemblerotws (1) - iamausername
shellyc (1) - Herta

Not voting (3) - Wiyvern, Iconeum, Assemblerotws

(expired on 2020-10-23 09:11:00) remain until day end

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority.

[EchoVision]

there's so many people i'd love to hear from
randy
titus
username
assembler
ico
wiyvern but he said he's gettin there
zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Titus]

Hi.

Gamestate hasn't changed since the last time I posted. Herta wagon still bad.

Closest new input Assmble might be scum.

[EchoVision]

hi titus how is your day going today

[Titus]

Hi. Fine. Let's not clutter the thread.

[iamausername]

Gamestate hasn't changed since the last time I posted. Herta wagon still bad.

not sure i get your position here. you think that Herta is scummy, and that his wagon is townlead, but you also think it's bad? just because no one is really pushing against it? consider that we likely have multiple small scum factions, and i don't think that's a reason to doubt that Herta is scum.

VOTE: Herta

i know how close he is to execution now. this is E-2.

Assemble should not take my change of vote to mean that he has lurked his way out of having to explain himself.

[Titus]

consider that we likely have multiple small scum factions,

I'm not assuming that.

[Titus]

I just feel this is town pushing on town. I don't see anyone trying to defend Herta. I'll hammer to get the game going, I just think scum are coasting here.

[redcardinal]

their tone is newbie tone. if shelly is scum like I think she is, then imo here she is just setting up limbait

I agree with shelly on this one, this doesn't read as newbtown, it reads as specifically newb scum

[redcardinal]

noraa why is your vote still on me and not putting herta on l1 please explain

[Herta]

I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes

Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

[Noraa]

noraa why is your vote still on me and not putting herta on l1 please explain

I don't particularly think herta is scum.

[Titus]

Why does it feel like you're goving up Herta?

[Noraa]

Why does it feel like you're goving up Herta?

If Herta flips red, this point is valid. If not, it's not.

[shellyc]

I agree with shelly on this one, this doesn't read as newbtown, it reads as specifically newb scum

why do i find myself agreeing with everything red posts? +townpoints again

btw, I kinda start thinking noraa might be town?? the shelly!scum is mindmeldlingly confbiased and I think theres some truth there

[shellyc]

*as to my original town!noraa gutvibe

btw my playstyle is just like that. I like to take a lot of strong action as town and being bloodthirsty = scum is fallacious

[shellyc]

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

despite redcardinal pushing as hard as me on you you basically ignore redcardinal (?)
thinking about multiscum is not alignment indicative
titus loves VCA as doing it is NAI

NPOM read is the only fine one and its a consensus read as well

[shellyc]

their tone is newbie tone. if shelly is scum like I think she is, then imo here she is just setting up limbait

sigh

noraa you know clearly the way I like to play town is tunnel all day and basically the opposite of measured. doubting a replacement is not setting up lynchbait. having takes is not setting up lynchbait.

[Rannygazoo]

So uh

It kind of feels like the day is winding down. I was hoping Herta would convince us to move the wagon but it looks like he won’t.

I don’t know what to do except wait for the prods/replacements to catch up. I’m still willing to hammer herta if it comes to it but I’d like to hear from ico and assemble before that happens.

[Rannygazoo]

I don’t have an opinion on shelly v. Noraa, but yikes. Look at shelly’s record and she might make a good policy elim.

I feel like I’ll know more after a flip, and night actions start flying. That will allow us at least to count the scum factions, maybe