Questionable Balcony

[Tammy]

I think bell, midwaybear and cakez all either claimed or suggested they're not in a neighborhood.

[Tammy]

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

Deathy plox aim elsewhere to calibrate kthnx.

Why do you think he suggested this?

[Tammy]

my problem with gamma's catchup is that he obviously is reading the current pages, he makes the don't hammer until i've caught up thing, but he doesn't interact with it or comment on it or taylor at all. The catchup then feels like a deliberate attempt to not comment on what is happening.

Which is *scratching head*

[fferyllt]

Is this Cabd not believing it's a dethy?

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

is there reason to believe there might be a traitor and a fullscum in that group, rather than having a 4 person masonry as soon as the dethy resolves? anyone can answer but im maiy asking i guess from a 1) balance pov and 2) WWFGD

>0% chance, highly doubt a giant masonry is gonna go down.

I think it's not understanding what a dethy is. He changed his tune.

[fferyllt]

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

Deathy plox aim elsewhere to calibrate kthnx.

Why do you think he suggested this?

I think he crumbed that he's a reflexive loverizer to Syr. He'd already crumbed loverizer at me (the Andy stuff), and I misinterpreted.

[Syryana]

Yeah he crumbed loverizer at me. I think the reflexive bit was more about "don't investigate me guys, it's a bad idea" that he told us all

Who is Jake investigating?

[Syryana]

Actually I don't think he's reflexive at all

I enter people into traditional marriage with you, syr

I think that means he gets to pick who the pair becomes

[fferyllt]

I saw it more as "you" being someone who targets him.

and "people" maybe being a prescribed list of potential loverees (his neighborhood?)

Or maybe dreamwalkers (someone with night action) are the potential loverees?

[fferyllt]

anyway, dreamwalker felt like a really strong warn-off to me.

[Syryana]

I think Cakez, petapan, S_S all look town as fuck

midwaybear is kinda eh but he was already locktown so

I really liked Pooky's explanation to why Tammy is town too

Gamma can burn

Bell can burn too honestly, like the dethy outs and the first thing he does is focuses on taylor calling his grandparents spies, fuckin wot

[Syryana]

I saw it more as "you" being someone who targets him.

and "people" maybe being a prescribed list of potential loverees (his neighborhood?)

I disagree with the meaning of you in context of his post but that doesn't matter since we go nowhere near his house and that's what's important

[Syryana]

Oh also Bell going to take a nap mid end of day wagon looks hella sus too

[fferyllt]

Oh also Bell going to take a nap mid end of day wagon looks hella sus too

why would scum-Bell announce that?

[fferyllt]

I'm picturing that scum-bell would be pissed af that tayl0r screwed up this bad. His interactions with Tayl0r don't feel that way.

otoh he might have been the elim had the day gone otherwise, though petapan I think had the 2nd most votes at the time. Bell was getting tunneled by Cabd, though, who already had most of the cohort convinced to vote Bell?

[fferyllt]

and by cohort I mean fgo-related, not 2012/2013.

It's blowing me away to be treated like an old fart in this game!

[Tammy]

Oh also Bell going to take a nap mid end of day wagon looks hella sus too

why would scum-Bell announce that?

I don’t know but it was really weird

[Tammy]

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

tammy i wish you had more thoughts on this game and not on old games

Me too!

dammit we crossposted and then my browser went out and I lost my post.

It wasn't anything great, but it is apropos to this post so I'll just rewrite it as a reply.

I've got some free time today so I'll actually be able to read this game mostly undistracted and not while also trying to work. Before my actual read, I've got working town reads on midwaybear, ffery, cabd, sryry. I don't even know why on midwaybear though; I just remember liking this posts.

I was looking at the playerlist last night and I realized that I don't actually have active suspicions on anyone*. Some pings here and there which has me wondering if it's setup related or if scum are in the people that I just haven't seen posting much? I don't know; hopefully a reread fixes that.

Although! If you're vote on me was serious, it's wrong, but I think you'll realize that once I have some thoughts on the game after actually reading it. I hope. I hope I have thoughts.

well the process was raelizing i don't actually remember anything about how you play, which made me realize i didn't remember anything you've done this game, which led me to read back on you and realize i don't townread you and i'm not sure why anyone does. i didn't have any serious intentions of attempting to wagon you (i was going giving you and diamondsentinel the "first game off a hiatus" d1 pass regardless of my read), but felt the need to express that read in a visible fashion

lowkey feeling this
my last game with Tammy she felt a lot more "actively town"
if that makes sense

Bell vote Taylor with me

I've been seeing some ties between tay and tammy in more recent posts, what's up with that

I’m trying to make sense of why I don’t like this. It kinda felt like he recognized what was going on, but was pretending not to, and his understanding leaked out a bit here.

But in trying to find this post, I noticed that he’d been voting Taylor before all this.

[Tammy]

I don’t like midway bear as much as I did. Not from the reaction at end of day, but from my reread post page 20. I quite liked him in the first 20 pages then my read went to meh?

[Tammy]

I'm picturing that scum-bell would be pissed af that tayl0r screwed up this bad. His interactions with Tayl0r don't feel that way.

otoh he might have been the elim had the day gone otherwise, though petapan I think had the 2nd most votes at the time. Bell was getting tunneled by Cabd, though, who already had most of the cohort convinced to vote Bell?

I thought I was the only person on peta and mine was a joke

[fferyllt]

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

VoteCount 1.10

petapan [1] - Tammy

Gamma Emerald [1] - Jake The Wolfie
Nahdia [1] - Alisae

Tayl0r Swift [9] - SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, fferyllt, Cabd, Something_Smart, midwaybear, Syryana, DiamondSentinel, petapan [Execute]

petapan [2] - PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

PookyTheMagicalBear [1] - Nahdia

Not Voting [2]

- The Bulge, Tayl0r Swift

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-10-16 20:35:31)

It was this way for several vcs. I let it ride to see if anyone else noticed or cared.

[Tammy]

I have town to varying degrees Cabd, peta, alisae, pooky, diamond sentinel, something smart, and cakez as varying degrees of town reads or they made a post I somewhat liked.

I had alisae as a pocket scum read until about the third? time they checked in. The third time they felt more natural than their earlier posts which looked really forced to me.

Midway bear is a bit eh for me. I do like his early game tonally but then I was just like eh maybe not. Hasn’t done anything scummy I don’t think.

I really liked the bulges way of processing the claim. Unfortunately without anything else, it’s null.


How I feel right now scum are in Nahdia, gamma, bell which doesn’t feel quite right. Gamma gave that weird response to bell and roundabout way of reading him as town during the dethy discussion that felt weird. If diamond and Nahdia aren’t in a neighborhood together, I’d like to know why they haven’t interacted or responded to ds. And bell well bells play makes no sense this game.

[fferyllt]

I'm not sold on Diamond Sentinal town, especially given he kept pushing Jake after the dethy was outed and we'd all come out agreeing Tayl0r was scum.

[Tammy]

I’m not sold on ds as town by a long shot, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is. Wouldn’t be surprised for scum either. I think the way he started focusing on the four of us after midway asked him about us was odd.

But my memory of him is a player who’s very surface level with weird thoughts about how scum and town behave and gets overly concerned on the concept of content.

If Taylor Swift was informed, her weird jump in to say ds was town when nobody was really scumreafing him at that time might mean something.

If I was able to do tiers he’d be at that bottom of my list, and he’s only in there because I liked a couple of his reactions.

[fferyllt]

That's about where I am.

I got pissed when DS asked me about reads on lower content players, and not the ones I was interacting with, and then Cakez called my "protoreads" scummy and then doing nothing else. I was going to bash him in the head about that but then he said it wasn't a big enough ping to go after me and asked me about yeast price fixing cartels instead!

[Syryana]

Oh also Bell going to take a nap mid end of day wagon looks hella sus too

why would scum-Bell announce that?

why would town-bell fuck off in the middle of the most momentous mafia announcement ever