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Post Post #3700 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:25 am

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In post 3698, UNOwen wrote:And if you get the result "xxxx visited the kill" then they have a near certainty to be scum. I don't see why you would not track someone you were suspicious of in this situation.
i wasnt aware that norway was a TPR, and i read the wiki that tracker's vulnerability is 1) tracking a scum that did not perform the kill and 2) tracking TPR to nightkill
I was more afraid of 2) than 1)

ok i played suboptimally I get it...
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Post Post #3701 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:27 am

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also I was confident in my abilities to read plus for one, and I was also confident in my abilities in reading you as I've got a meta-tell from your scumgame.

I was pretty sold on hectic town, I had almost no read on duppin, and I didnt expect dave to provide 0 content
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Post Post #3702 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:28 am

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you have not tripped the meta-tell yet for the record
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Post Post #3703 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:58 am

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i mean it kind of seems like you are just flailing at this point. you go from this super confident and aggressive player to trying to appeal and downplaying yourself, your logic is still super inconsistent, like you just questioned why people were not considering scum to no kill when you were the first to bring up who scum would kill.

also i dont mean this in a condescending way at all, but i really think you made a couple if big mistakes with your claim. this might be hindsight, but i really think you should have retracted the claim when i asked you to because i think that would wouldve likely won you the game. I understand that youre probably just going to call out this comment for whatever reasons and thats fair, but between the two of us you i just wanted to tell you that this is an area i think you should work on. it sounds super condescending actually but its not really not my intention

anyway we can call each other out all day long but i doubt thats going to help town
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In post 3654, duppin wrote:also regarding whether we should lim today or not, UNO is kind of right. Ever since shelly forced a 1v1 between me we can justify limming today simply because it's going to be the exact same players you need to solve tomorrow
I was saying we should don't need to rush the day to an end. I still believe we should not execute, even though the choice is the same whoever dies outside the 1v1 will rule things out for the remaining players.
kind of - I really need to talk to plus today though to evaluate his slot.

my concern is that he might be town in which case i think it might be a mistake to go for a no lim today simply because if he is town i believe he is pocketed by shelly. based on what he has said he has already made up his mind on me and shelly so and yes this is from my point of view obviously, but in that case shelly would never kill him in the night but instead kill someone like hectic (who she claimed would be the best kill for me which is just absurd if hectic is town).

Now what this means is that assuming it is a 3 man scum team then they only need 1 town so if plus is town then that means they most likely already have that town in which case tomorrow is probably jsut going to be a loss. I mean absolutely no offense by this but i am not sure i trust plus if he is town on being able to solve me and shelly based on what he has said so far

now another issue is that we still have absolutely no idea where davesaz head is at at the moment
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Post Post #3704 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:10 am

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In post 3703, duppin wrote:i mean it kind of seems like you are just flailing at this point.
look up the stats, accusing people of flailing = high chance of being scum

scum!me can just hard push duppin. downplaying myself = negative EV. ive been in a couple of 1v1s as scum (just won one against plus). its obvious that my confidence as scum is higher.
duppin now trying to stop me scumcasing you because (as you can see from the 1v1s ive been in) I have quite high WIM.
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Post Post #3705 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:11 am

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In post 3703, duppin wrote:I understand that youre probably just going to call out this comment for whatever reasons and thats fair
this clearly shows that duppin is more focused on how im gunna call them out vs. proving me as scum

non town mindset
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Post Post #3706 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:14 am

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shelly you proved yourself that you were scum, i need to prove that i am town to the rest of town
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Post Post #3707 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:14 am

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In post 3693, shellyc wrote:
In post 3692, UNOwen wrote:How does a 1-shot tracker find conftown when there are presumably two scum left?
slip that theres 3 scum?

I dont think before posting. soft confirms are a thing as well, UNO.
Not thinking before posting is why you scumslip and say things you shouldn't be saying so much. All 13 player normals have 3 scum. Were you playing this game on the assumption there were 2 or 3 scum?
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Post Post #3708 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:16 am

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In post 3707, Hectic wrote:Not thinking before posting is why you scumslip and say things you shouldn't be saying so much. All 13 player normals have 3 scum. Were you playing this game on the assumption there were 2 or 3 scum?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11996004

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Post Post #3709 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:17 am

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In post 3703, duppin wrote:(who she claimed would be the best kill for me which is just absurd if hectic is town).
Who would the best kill for you be if you were scum with Dave?
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Post Post #3710 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:17 am

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you just linked a game with 3 scum? what am i missing?
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Post Post #3711 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:17 am

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as long the ratio is not confirmed, i am willing to consider a world with 2 scum

no it has 2 scum
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Post Post #3712 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:17 am

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In post 3709, Hectic wrote:
In post 3703, duppin wrote:(who she claimed would be the best kill for me which is just absurd if hectic is town).
Who would the best kill for you be if you were scum with Dave?
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Post Post #3713 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:18 am

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In post 3708, shellyc wrote:
In post 3707, Hectic wrote:Not thinking before posting is why you scumslip and say things you shouldn't be saying so much. All 13 player normals have 3 scum. Were you playing this game on the assumption there were 2 or 3 scum?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11996004

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This game has 3 scum, I apologise if you're 2/3 number-blind. I didn't mean to bring up such a touchy topic.
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Post Post #3714 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:20 am

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In post 3713, Hectic wrote:This game has 3 scum, I apologise if you're 2/3 number-blind. I didn't mean to bring up such a touchy topic.
ok one scum was in green for ??? reason

ehhhh considering we have 3 flipped TPRs it would be reasonable that theres 3 scum but nothing is confirmed and thats obviously not a scumslip?
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Post Post #3715 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:20 am

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*I mean when you commented on how my post calling out UNO was a scumslip.
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Post Post #3716 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:20 am

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it doesnt, youre looking at the dead list
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Post Post #3717 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:23 am

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also the main point hectic was making is that youve played the game under the assumption that there have been 3 scum all game long, so it was weird for you to call him out for that
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Post Post #3718 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:24 am

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In post 3717, duppin wrote:also the main point hectic was making is that youve played the game under the assumption that there have been 3 scum all game long, so it was weird for you to call him out for that
when did i make that assumption though
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Post Post #3719 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:25 am

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It's not a scumslip, but it's something you shouldn't be paranoid about. It's like how since you're informed, you're trying to go too far the other way and make it seem you're not by calling people who're assuming there's 3 scum informed and scum. Also, people have been forming scumteams on the basis that there's 3 scum for the entire game before that UNOwen post, why did those not catch your eye but suddenly now UNOwen's is a scumslip?

This isn't because you're trying to get UNOwen launched or anything, it's because you're now trying to appear uninformed.
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Post Post #3720 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:26 am

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In post 3718, shellyc wrote:
In post 3717, duppin wrote:also the main point hectic was making is that youve played the game under the assumption that there have been 3 scum all game long, so it was weird for you to call him out for that
when did i make that assumption though
when you tried to put out a 3 man solve day 2? actually i think you already did it day 1
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Post Post #3721 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:27 am

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In post 3719, Hectic wrote:It's not a scumslip, but it's something you shouldn't be paranoid about. It's like how since you're informed, you're trying to go too far the other way and make it seem you're not by calling people who're assuming there's 3 scum informed and scum. Also, people have been forming scumteams on the basis that there's 3 scum for the entire game before that UNOwen post, why did those not catch your eye but suddenly now UNOwen's is a scumslip?

This isn't because you're trying to get UNOwen launched or anything, it's because you're now trying to appear uninformed.
no, because it's mylo everything is magnified (imo) and lylo/mylo is basically this whole huge catharsis which you have to decide the game
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Post Post #3722 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:29 am

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i mean even the fact that you claim it is mylo is based on the assumption that it is a team of 3
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Post Post #3723 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:29 am

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lol I'm pretty sure shelly is scum. The hard part now is convincing Plus to vote there if he's town (which he likely is).
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Post Post #3724 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:31 am

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In post 3703, duppin wrote:also i dont mean this in a condescending way at all, but i really think you made a couple if big mistakes with your claim. this might be hindsight, but i really think you should have retracted the claim when i asked you to because i think that would wouldve likely won you the game. I understand that youre probably just going to call out this comment for whatever reasons and thats fair, but between the two of us you i just wanted to tell you that this is an area i think you should work on. it sounds super condescending actually but its not really not my intention
I am amazed by this if you're scum
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