Questionable Balcony

[Tammy]

What I find so weird about gamma's mastina style catchup without commenting on anything happening at the time is that he was already voting Taylor, so if he did realize that we'd outed a dethy and taylor was likely getting lynched why hide behind catchups?

[fferyllt]

Off the topic of Bell, but I IMMEDIATELY thought back to this post when Gamma started his mastina-style catchup.

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Night 1]

I already regret joining this game. I gave FakeGod my word I’d stay in this, I will hunt down every single one of you who makes this harder than it has to be.

[fferyllt]

lol snap. If I didn't have mod confirmation I would have called that a HUGE thinking what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it tell.

[Tammy]

maybe then I'd reach your top tier!

[fferyllt]

It is interesting that midway picked us 3 plus Cabd to focus on, yeah*. Was DS already on Jake's case? I think he was. Which would basically be the whole dethy minus the traitor.

*I thought at the time that this was a neighborhood with Cabd tell. Because we should have been reasonably high on Cabd's sort priority.

It was more pronounced with DS, but we kinda did warp the game a little. It's what I meant by large neighborhoods where a big chunk of the player list is interacting outside the game has an impact on the shape of the main game thread.

(I think I actually may have coined the phrase/concept of the 2013 cohort. By mid-2013 I was starting to think of us as a gaggle of graduate students starting their masters programs in the same department at the same time.)

[Syryana]

Over whose head does the sword dangle? Contextually, Alisae, but the metaphor doesn't really fit? Maybe: Alisae is pressuring Jake (e.g., the ruler's cruelty that leads to uneasy heads under crowns), but when e admittedly doesn't get the reaction e thought would signify town, e shows mercy? and that's something town-Alisae would not do?

halp!

I have concluded you are on drugs.

[Syryana]

but contextually the dream may have happened before the midway vote.

This isn't quite right. The dream may have happened before Cabd saw and processed the midway vote.

Are we really trying to parse a scumread on Bell that happened in Cabd's subconscious

Like what the fuck come on now

[Syryana]

What I find so weird about gamma's mastina style catchup without commenting on anything happening at the time is that he was already voting Taylor, so if he did realize that we'd outed a dethy and taylor was likely getting lynched why hide behind catchups?

Agree. At the very minimum Gamma knew there was a hammer yet continued doggedly pursuing his PBPA catchup. I suspect he knew the context too, because if he didn't he wouldn't have worried about people hammering someone because he'd have had no idea a hammer was being called for in the first place.

I would lynch the fuck out of this.

[Syryana]

As for Bell, I think consensus is he needs to die. I don't think he needs to die immediately.

[Syryana]

FFery's Day 2 Agenda

• Investigate s_s's reads list format. Ask Cabd if he usually formats them this way. I don't remember seeing anything like this the last time I meta'd him.

Format notwithstanding this readslist was remarkably toothless for scum to have. All mild leans? I think it makes perfect sense for the level of engagement he's shown so far in the game + how he got snippy at pooky and whoeverelse for getting in the way of his Taylor interaction = supertown S_S.

[*]What was Diamond Sentinel doing once he realized he wasn't going to convince players to focus on Jake instead of Tayl0r?

This could use some attention.

Players of Interest

• Bell - so much cagier around me than I think is warranted in this game. He seems super-concerned about his ability to recognize scum-Cabd. WHY? (also, learn to bullet)
  
• Nadhia - The spoiler about their shitty week in the argument with petapan got me right in the feels. But, I still have issues about their lack of (or extremely hands-off level of) engagement
  
• Alisae - could just be me not paying attention but I feel like he's been pretty uninvolved beyond that huge go at Jake early on.

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I would like to state for the record that I have every sympathy for Nahdia's personal plight and wish them well. I do, however, still think they're a scumfuck.

Alisae's interesting. They were so hyped to be playing this game, particularly with me (which is what e said, no idea why but whatever) but they've been super disengaged and lurky. Is it alignment specific? Maybe? Definitely weird. If in a neighborhood with Cabd they may have more activity there. Yay neighborhood overload. If not we need to stir fry this one a bit.

[fferyllt]

I haven't gone completely through the thread on Bell and probably won't finish that before day 2 starts.

This is where I'm at and what I'd want to do if I were in the game.

1. See how he enters the game thread and if he's making more sense (or I'm reading more sense) in his posts and stances
2. Before too long (enough to see if he's still really off kilter, talk to Bell about what's been going on in his head during day 1, using some of the posts I've pulled up, with the idea of deciding whether the best course of action is to yeet him or giving him some day 2 to dig himself out (possibly both!)
3. Develop a useful read
4. Gauge Cabd's approach/reaction to bell/reaction to me for a sanity check.

Right now, I feel like it's about 50-50 whether he's a mis-elim or not based on his own play. In a player list of 11 non-confirmed players the chances of him flipping scum are 1 in 7 or 8 (e.g., taking out my strong-ish townreads from the remainder).

[fferyllt]

I was feeling kinda like petapan hadn't interacted with me much on day 1, and it's because he hasn't. But apparently he had me as town? Certainly by the time he and Cabd were comparing notes on reads. Maybe before then.

Anyway, he's not a townbloc-ing sort of player, at least with semi-randos.

His willingness to interact with someone he's not scumreading (Cabd) is one of the reasons why I think there miiiiiiggghhht be a neighborhood connection. otoh he's joked around a bit with you as well, Syr. Maybe I haven't been all that friendly.

[Tammy]

petapan's play style works well for scum, at least for how well i read. I find his type of play style enjoyable and it's one I tend to town read.

I believe he's good at scum, but I don't think I ever saw him as scum. We didn't play a whole lot of games together when he was still around. He sticks out to me because of how much I enjoyed the style and I thought he was an insightful player. Empire also thought very highly of him. I think one of the games I played with him was in a hydra with empire before empire and I officially hydrad but when we were talking about hydraing.

I think you've been more jovial? than I remember ffery! (might be from the crumbs that had me chuckling though.)

[Syryana]

I was feeling kinda like petapan hadn't interacted with me much on day 1, and it's because he hasn't. But apparently he had me as town? Certainly by the time he and Cabd were comparing notes on reads. Maybe before then. Anyway, he's not a townbloc-ing sort of player, at least with semi-randos. His willingness to interact with someone he's not scumreading (Cabd) is one of the reasons why I think there miiiiiiggghhht be a neighborhood connection. otoh he's joked around a bit with you as well, Syr. Maybe I haven't been all that friendly.

He was kind enough to interact with me about my Nahdia read even if he didn't spend a whole lot of time on heart to hearts. He's not really the heart to heart sort, is our Assassin.

That said I think there's a number of things in his ISO that clearly point to him trying to figure people out (Nahdia fight, Bell fight, though in retrospect both of them being in our scumlists is kind of interesting, hmm)

Pooky said he'd been in a marathon game with scum!peta recently and scum!peta shot PookyPartner N1 for the town cred. Marathons are very different than months long larges but as the playerlist narrows if peta remains alive we need to cast a steely eye here. Fairly comfy with him being town at the moment though.

I think you've been more jovial? than I remember ffery! (might be from the crumbs that had me chuckling though.)

Ffery's proper hyperactive considering her old town meta. More aggressive too, which I take full credit for. It'd be nice to see her make it alive to day 3+ in a game where we don't have the scum against the ropes like FGO just to see how she copes. I dunno, I rather like the new model on the whole:D

[fferyllt]

I think I've been approachable, but not all that great at approaching every player, myself (too focused on the dethy and trying to absorb all the stuff Cabd was trying to tell me). I think I was actually more approachable in the FGO game (but also unknown/unrecognized to most of the player list). But I've been pretty srsbsns and "gotta effort" due to our roles.

[Syryana]

but not all that great at approaching every player, myself (too focused on the dethy and trying to absorb all the stuff Cabd was trying to tell me)

There's 17 players in here. You're doing

fine

.

[fferyllt]

divide and conquer is also a thing!

[fferyllt]

Ask bell whose head the sword was dangling over!

[fferyllt]

Fuck.

Syr </3

[fferyllt]

Jake's mafia guys. We got a problem!

I'm either paranoid or insane. But we all knew that.

[Tammy]

Syryana was town so I’m eother naive or sane.

[Tammy]

I’m making dinner so I’ll be back.

[Tammy]

Vengeance!

[Jake The Wolfie]

Which means Syr was either Paranoid or Insane.

[fferyllt]

So you got an inno result?