mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Titus]

mastina, tSwift fakeclaimed

[DiamondSentinel]

mastina continues to ping me. I do not like it. I do not like it one bit.

[superbowl9]

Like we are still letting this stuff influence the game, we're wagoning someone because we think they scumtold because of that whole incident. I 100% understand what samantha was feeling ATP.

[mastina]

Taylor OBVIOUSLY knew she would be called out on her fake claim, so I am not sure that would earn her any scum points. She was just being playful IMHO.

Oh.

Taylor back in the scumbin goes I guess.

Titus
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Vecna
Menalque
jjh927
samantha97

TheGoldenParadox

Pickaxe Pete

Ban Hydras

Bell
DiamondSentinel
April Ludgate

Christøpher

EchoVision
DrDolittle
(Morning Mage, NorwegianboyEE*, Tayl0r Swift*)

PlusJOYED

Gamma Emerald

[Titus]

mastina continues to ping me. I do not like it. I do not like it one bit.

Fight me. I'd take a bullet for mastina.

[EchoVision]

I think April goes down into the “actual scumreads” pool

mena i'm gonna fucking shit myself

[Almost50]

speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is an

awful

strategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.

I disagree on it not being scum-indicative, when the reason for it was "mod interfering" and suggesting it "confirmed" a player (although it didn't in my PoV).

Put yourself in samantha's shoes: if mod confirmed norway as town next post would you just continue to play because the error was in your benefit?

Personally I would continue to play either way (error for or against me)

[superbowl9]

Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situation

[EchoVision]

In what world am I ever scum here with zero agency in the game

oh no, it’s starting

it started on her first post
all of her posts have been "come on you know i wouldn't do this as scum"
there's been no content from april
bad slot
VOTE: april

[Menalque]

I think April goes down into the “actual scumreads” pool

mena i'm gonna fucking shit myself

Friend, it sounds as though you need to find a bathroom posthaste!

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm thinking mastina is town rn, her read list looks decent even if I am at the bottom of it

[Almost50]

Do you think that the scum team ousted themselves instantaneously?

What I do believe is the one getting upset enough to replace out is the one most likely to flip scum of the pile.

[Gamma Emerald]

also yeah I'm just gonna play in the now because I just tried it for a second there and it already felt way better.

[Menalque]

In what world am I ever scum here with zero agency in the game

oh no, it’s starting

it started on her first post
all of her posts have been "come on you know i wouldn't do this as scum"
there's been no content from april
bad slot
VOTE: april

True, but equally, hear me out — if Sam is scum, April is less likely to be scum. If Sam is town, think about how much easier it will be to do April tomorrow or on D3, rather than fighting a long uphill battle to try and do her today

[EchoVision]

My thoughts are Samantha is probably scum who stopped caring and TMI knows the slot is town so they know it actually did get confirmed, even if people don’t see it like that.

-1
you're ruling out multiball here and i don't think that it's unlikely that this 23 player large theme has more than one faction

unless you know it doesn't

[EchoVision]

my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site. Not going to quote fetch but yeah...

Yeah so I'm hearing if you take a chevy and switch the plus with a horse, it's now a ferrari. Only works if you're consistent throughout your time on the site though so watch out...

Do you feel like mocking me is a good use of your time?

Yes at least I can maintain my brain cells

*desire to eliminate intensifies* They way you are treating me this game is a far cry from last game. Or you really just that sore?

keep in mind if superbowl is scum then that invalidates a50's miller mason claim too

[superbowl9]

I'm fine with April but I really don't think we should be leaving gamma it will come back to bite us unless he is a town pr

[EchoVision]

I think Menalque is just one dimensional Day 1 townie this game. Further the game goes on, they’ll probably be better, so I don’t think that’s necessarily worth it for today.

ooo okay here's content

[mastina]

why is no one concerned that no real counterwagon has formed to gamma?

Because there's been no less than three?

There have been counterwagons, real ones, so nobody's concerned about a lack of a counterwagon because there isn't a lack of a counterwagon.

if the best ally gamma has is me saying "theres something questionable there but i dunno about a 10-person wagon" then where are the scumbuddies and why arent they doing anything to help?

Well, what can the scumbuddies do to help? This game has a bunch of people who're painfully obviously town. They butt heads a bunch, and misread each other a fair amount, but push come to shove most of them aren't getting lynched.

So if the obvious town aren't getting lynched.

What can scum try to do?

They can try to lynch the players who aren't obviously town, but that list is fairly thin, considering most of the scum are going to be within that list.

also why does the gamma wagon, as weak as it seems to be, have such longevity?

Why wouldn't it? There's a bunch of noise in the game, a lot and a lot of noise, and people going back and forth on their stances. The Gamma wagon has risen and shrunk as people have hopped off to pursue their vanity scumreads and as people have hopped back on trying to reform the cohesion/unity.

Plus, a wagon persisting does not make the wagon be on town. (Battle Mage can attest to that as the last time he and I played together, he was the leading wagon for 3/4ths of D1 before he replaced out, and for some time after that, too. Titus can also attest to this as she defended Battle Mage that game using your same logic--but she was wrong to have done so because surprise surprise, the neverending wagon on Battle Mage

was

on scum.)

Also, when the town is more or less mostly in the correct area, even if they don't fully agree--it makes a lot of sense for them to be united in the wagon.

And a critical question about the Gamma wagon the Gamma Emerald defenders can't answer--

who are the alleged scum pushing the Gamma wagon?

If you can't provide them, then the wagon is, inherently, not driven by scum. And if the wagon is, inherently, not driven by scum, then it's not a town-indicator for the wagonee to have the wagon have such longevity.

[EchoVision]

@mastina
What has superbowl done that’s led to your TRing him?

General aura of towniness, basically. The things superbowl have done don't look like scum and many actually look town. The things he's saying, the places he's pushing, they look town to me because they don't look like scum at all and I just get strong town vibes from his posting.

I honestly don't get what superbowl has done that's led to people scumreading him, other than him having whacky reads/reasons--something that's not a scumtell and in fact I'd argue is a bit of a towntell.

should be nothing especially from the claim that he claimed with a50
maybe you're not to that point yet but i def think you're past that

[EchoVision]

superbowl and a50 but they win with the town and ONLY the town, they promise.

okay nevermind i forgot how you stood on the whole 3p situation

[superbowl9]

If I were a lesser man I'd probably push the "wow gamma wagon seems to be getting a lot of resistance" narrative but we all know wagonomics is bs to an extent

[Nero Cain]

a50 and sb are not miller masons. They DUNCTION as miller masons if you believe thier claim that they can only win with town and share its wincon but they are still its own seperate faction. I can't believe ppl are struggling with this.

[mastina]

Is this Gamma being Gamma?

If by that you mean Gamma being probable-scum, then yes.

[Almost50]

Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situation

Nope, and I haven't seen it done by town before. I

have

though seen it done by scum in different ways, and they would also claim they would do it as either alignment (but -again- I've never seen TOWN replacing out over someone being confirmed by mistake, or over someone using a trust tell, or anything if the sort)