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Post Post #2175 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:23 pm

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In post 2172, Alisae wrote:
In post 2170, Tammy wrote:him claiming nahdia hadn't made enough posts to be read by yesterday when I asked, but today his case is based on Nadia's posts from yesterday as if they're a smoking gun.
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yeah it's super weird!

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Post Post #2176 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 pm

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actually tbf
it COULD be possible that because he just had no other reads so when he needed to find another scumread he did read nahdia's d2 posts, thought they were scummy, then opened up the ISO to try to find things to prove his read.
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Post Post #2177 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:24 pm

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In post 2174, Tammy wrote:I wish bulge's only real game posts weren't on verifying dethy stuff.

I super appreciated the more methodical way he approached the outing yesterday, but I'd like to see something more that just verifying that what we've said is agreed upon by all of us.
why is bulge town again? I feel like he's avoiding posting in this game
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Post Post #2178 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:26 pm

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In post 2175, Tammy wrote:
In post 2172, Alisae wrote:
In post 2170, Tammy wrote:him claiming nahdia hadn't made enough posts to be read by yesterday when I asked, but today his case is based on Nadia's posts from yesterday as if they're a smoking gun.
RED FLAG
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yeah it's super weird!

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oh ok gnite
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Post Post #2179 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:26 pm

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I don't have a read on bulge

my read on him is that I liked how he approached the outing of the dethy yesterday but it's totally null without anything else
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Post Post #2180 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 pm

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In post 2176, Alisae wrote:actually tbf
it COULD be possible that because he just had no other reads so when he needed to find another scumread he did read nahdia's d2 posts, thought they were scummy, then opened up the ISO to try to find things to prove his read.
yep so which world are we living in is the question
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Post Post #2181 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:32 pm

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I came into today having diamond sentinel as a very low level town read and nahdia a scum read and they've both kinda flipped spots

sorta

I get to kinda fence sit and digest reads and take my time and this feels good.
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Post Post #2182 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:35 pm

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In post 2180, Tammy wrote:
In post 2176, Alisae wrote:actually tbf
it COULD be possible that because he just had no other reads so when he needed to find another scumread he did read nahdia's d2 posts, thought they were scummy, then opened up the ISO to try to find things to prove his read.
yep so which world are we living in is the question
I don't think the lieing about real world stuff bits are turthful at all
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Post Post #2183 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:35 pm

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It can happen but why is that the conclusion you're jumping to?
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Post Post #2184 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:37 pm

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yeah that just feels like a dirty accusation really
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Post Post #2185 (ISO) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:40 pm

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When I read it I felt like he's forcing himself to defending a bad take because he can't back out
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Post Post #2186 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:38 am

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Busy today. Don’t have too much fun without me.
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Post Post #2187 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:58 am

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In post 2144, Tammy wrote:
In post 1924, DiamondSentinel wrote:VOTE: Nahdia

I'm not liking the little bit I've seen today, and I
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don't like the hard lurk yesterday. I need something to reassure me about this slot, and I'm not getting it.
But it didn't bother you yesterday?
Yesterday I was dead set on Jake because I swore he was the scum in the dethy.
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In post 1987, DiamondSentinel wrote:Hmm. Indeed, I don't care for those posts. I look at it in more depth in a bit, and I might be inclined to sheep you there.
What don't you like about those posts?
I’ll get back to this later. Right now I’m doing some early morning catch-up on my phone.
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Post Post #2188 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:14 am

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In post 2160, Tammy wrote:I've had diamond as a lower tier townish read based on a few reactions and interactions with peta? and ffery? I think. However, I don't like the weird focus he had on me, ffery, cabd, and syry after midway bear asked about his read on us. If he's scum, he might have used a town's suggestion to focus there though he did branch out to the rest of the game. What I don't like today is how he's acting like nahdia is soooo super scummy. A) I don't like the suggestion that someone is lying about real life issues as it didn't seem like a lie and they can be scum regardless, but B) and this is more important yesterday I asked about his read on nahdia and he claimed there wasn't enough to go on but today he pulls up their posting from yesterday to make a case against them which just feels convenient

My only hesitation is that he has some weird beliefs in behavior and content so I'm not sure if we're in a world where diamond sentinel is just being his weird outtake self or if he's actually scum.
what i'm getting from the meta dump is that a lot of the stuff i was taking as town indicative from him is in fact null
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Post Post #2189 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:18 am

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In post 2094, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i can't tell which way your avatar is facing tho

the hair hides the eyes
left aka not towards the post
In post 2095, Cabd wrote:
In post 2092, SirCakez wrote:I don't understand what you're getting at here?
Yes.
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In post 2098, Alisae wrote:
In post 2093, SirCakez wrote:I have not changed my avatar in five years on site
U guys have to deal with my wrong-facing ways
ur not changing ur ur just flipping it so it faces the other way
That's too far
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In post 2092, SirCakez wrote:Trying to play the game
This is uh not a very helpful answer. I'm playing the game. I can't NOT be playing the game, unless I, you know, replaced out.
I feel like you know what I mean and are playing obtuse
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Post Post #2190 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:31 am

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Here are the posts I was referring to when I said I don't like them.
In post 1239, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1237, SirCakez wrote:Something_Smart is feeling a lot more absent than usual.
Am I though
In post 1244, Something_Smart wrote:I think this is within normal range for how absent I am.
I will always hate self-meta posting. I also dislike that sort of coy dodging of the question for the first post.
In post 1419, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1417, Bell wrote:Do you have any reads yet?
no

there is way too much discussion that is orthogonal to anything I want to talk about.
In post 1417, Bell wrote:Do you thread avoid as scum?
Sometimes.
Dodging questions (although admittedly the last part isn't a huge deal to me. Dodging questions about meta aren't AI)
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In post 1423, Bell wrote:What would you like to talk about?
I mean, if I knew, I'd be talking about it :/

The meta discussions are alienating. People seem to be by and large going with the flow and not really doing anything that stands out. And like I'm sure there IS readable content in there but I don't have the skill nor the patience to extract it.
Not a big deal, but I'm just going down Cakez's list here.
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In post 1479, SirCakez wrote:"I'm town and don't want to effort"
FTFY
I hate this. Snarky and unhelpful posts are a sign of scum in a lot of situations I've found.
In post 1494, Something_Smart wrote:Specifically, I don't want to effort when I know it won't accomplish anything worthwhile.
This. Just... no. Absolutely not. Even if what's going on around you is complete bunk and not remotely helpful, you can still contribute. This is a sign of a scum that is looking for any excuse they have to avoid the game.
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In post 1496, SirCakez wrote:How can you assume this
Because when I force reads they come out hot garbage. Speaking from experience.
See above. Even if your reads are trash, you make them so that you have
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footing. (and also so that you can eventually get better at the game). If you're not going to do anything yourself, why would you bother playing?

But this is someone who's played as long as I have, so I doubt the sincerity of this decently.
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In post 1525, fferyllt wrote:Are you thinking to kinda sit out day 1?
Ideally no. I just need to find something to engage with.

If there's anything you want to hear my opinion on, I'll definitely try to see what I can come up with (though I can't guarantee it won't be "that's NAI").
This was posted 1500 posts in. There was more than enough to engage with.
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Post Post #2191 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:06 am

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In post 2104, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2099, Cabd wrote:
In post 2096, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2087, Cabd wrote:
In post 2084, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2081, Cabd wrote:I uh... I think there might not be that many more hoods, given the lack of response to you so far, ffery.
is it time for us to solve your hood too?
It would have been if Taylor's launch into space hadn't been the imposter.
Discuss, please.
I can, but it will have MAJOR negative utility if done so.

Are you okay with that?
If you can explain what Tayl0rs launch into space does for the solving urgency of your hood without major negative utility I'd like to hear that, but I can live.

Just know that I'm getting uncomfortable about ~stuff~.
You know what?

I don't want us to have to live in a universe where we game solve today while you distrust me.

I'm just gonna put out what I've got.

I'm a miller that compulsive neighborize-millerizes. I pick my target at day's start. I REALLY hoped your masonry picked up on the day one attempts to convey this to you and syr. That's why I didn't want you checking me or my ilk at first. That said, knowing there's a miller in the game, well, two of them, anyways, now.. That means the deathy can calibrate and come into day three with sanity mostly solved.
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Post Post #2192 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:10 am

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That's a cool role. Seems somewhat trustworthy to me.
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Post Post #2193 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:15 am

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There are additional restrictions, but I don't feel the need to clarify or limit my options at this point in time, unless the yayas REALLY need me to.
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Post Post #2194 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:20 am

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This is probably sub optimal play, but having 5 clears out of 15 alive is better than 3 clears out of 15 alive for you.
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Post Post #2195 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:20 am

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And I want to just do the solving now.

Pick who makes it to midgame and who doesn't. That is what we need to do today.
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Post Post #2196 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:24 am

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In post 2191, Cabd wrote:
In post 2104, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2099, Cabd wrote:
In post 2096, fferyllt wrote:
In post 2087, Cabd wrote:
In post 2084, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2081, Cabd wrote:I uh... I think there might not be that many more hoods, given the lack of response to you so far, ffery.
is it time for us to solve your hood too?
It would have been if Taylor's launch into space hadn't been the imposter.
Discuss, please.
I can, but it will have MAJOR negative utility if done so.

Are you okay with that?
If you can explain what Tayl0rs launch into space does for the solving urgency of your hood without major negative utility I'd like to hear that, but I can live.

Just know that I'm getting uncomfortable about ~stuff~.
You know what?

I don't want us to have to live in a universe where we game solve today while you distrust me.

I'm just gonna put out what I've got.

I'm a miller that compulsive neighborize-millerizes. I pick my target at day's start. I REALLY hoped your masonry picked up on the day one attempts to convey this to you and syr. That's why I didn't want you checking me or my ilk at first. That said, knowing there's a miller in the game, well, two of them, anyways, now.. That means the deathy can calibrate and come into day three with sanity mostly solved.
We caught that you were a miller, but eventually thought you were crumbing loverizer instead of neighborizer. I thought there might be something reflexive in your ability.

We can come into day 3 like that, or we can target a scumread and see whose investigations change over n1. Less chance of calibration, non-zero chance of actionable result.

This will help with theorizing, though!
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Post Post #2197 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:25 am

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I think you'll get nightkilled soon though.
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Post Post #2198 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:26 am

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In post 2194, Cabd wrote:
This is probably sub optimal play
, but having 5 clears out of 15 alive is better than 3 clears out of 15 alive for you.
One could argue that outing the dethy day 1 was suboptimal, but Tayl0r's in-game play was not something we could let continue.
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Post Post #2199 (ISO) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:27 am

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In post 2190, DiamondSentinel wrote:This is a sign of a scum that is looking for any excuse they have to avoid the game.
If this is the case, why didn't I avoid the game after saying it?

Instead I doubled down on an attempt to get back into the game and did something I almost never do (ISO'd everyone). This was actually in direct contradiction to a lot of the stuff I said earlier, because I decided to stop being a whiner and try to fix my problem.
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