Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[SirCakez]

I see all the masons going first although I agree the claim seems trust worthy

[Cabd]

I thought there might be something reflexive in your ability.

Compulsive, not reflexive, but in result somewhat similar.

I just REALLY didn't want you guys trying to calibrate on me night one.

You remember how Ari failed to handle the loverizer hood? My first choice did the exact opposite with our miller hood.

They belong on the same tier you put me in... wherever that ends up settling.

[Cabd]

I mean, a shot at me is a shot where the masonry lives another day.

I'm cool with that.

[Cabd]

So... I am genuinely sorry but today is the high effort day.

You have a shelf life of "one game day" with almost 100% certainty.

[fferyllt]

Here are the posts I was referring to when I said I don't like them.

Something_Smart is feeling a lot more absent than usual.

Am I though

I think this is within normal range for how absent I am.

I will always hate self-meta posting. I also dislike that sort of coy dodging of the question for the first post.

Do you have any reads yet?

no

there is way too much discussion that is orthogonal to anything I want to talk about.

Do you thread avoid as scum?

Sometimes.

Dodging questions (although admittedly the last part isn't a huge deal to me. Dodging questions about meta aren't AI)

What would you like to talk about?

I mean, if I knew, I'd be talking about it :/

The meta discussions are alienating. People seem to be by and large going with the flow and not really doing anything that stands out. And like I'm sure there IS readable content in there but I don't have the skill nor the patience to extract it.

Not a big deal, but I'm just going down Cakez's list here.

"I'm town and don't want to effort"

FTFY

I hate this. Snarky and unhelpful posts are a sign of scum in a lot of situations I've found.

Specifically, I don't want to effort when I know it won't accomplish anything worthwhile.

This. Just... no. Absolutely not. Even if what's going on around you is complete bunk and not remotely helpful, you can still contribute. This is a sign of a scum that is looking for any excuse they have to avoid the game.

How can you assume this

Because when I force reads they come out hot garbage. Speaking from experience.

See above. Even if your reads are trash, you make them so that you have

some

footing. (and also so that you can eventually get better at the game). If you're not going to do anything yourself, why would you bother playing?

But this is someone who's played as long as I have, so I doubt the sincerity of this decently.

Are you thinking to kinda sit out day 1?

Ideally no. I just need to find something to engage with.

If there's anything you want to hear my opinion on, I'll definitely try to see what I can come up with (though I can't guarantee it won't be "that's NAI").

This was posted 1500 posts in. There was more than enough to engage with.

He engaged pretty damn hard after my dethy post.

This is not an elim that will happen today. Probably ever.

Anyone else you want to float?

[fferyllt]

So... I am genuinely sorry but today is the high effort day.

You have a shelf life of "one game day" with almost 100% certainty.

I know. I crazy-posted in the neighborhood n1 because I didn't expect to be alive today. That was part of the calculus.

[fferyllt]

List of Three start:

petapan, sircakez, midwaybear

Thoughts?

[fferyllt]

pooky kinda belongs there, but I'm not sure I can make a convincing argument for it.

[Cabd]

Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.

[fferyllt]

I also really liked Alisae's content that I got to read this morning!

[SirCakez]

ffery why not SS?
What is list of three?

[midwaybear]

I don't see much behind SS yet, but I also did not see much to Taylor yesterday either. Your reasons seem to be somewhat the same.

[Cabd]

List of Three start:

petapan, sircakez, midwaybear

Thoughts?

If these three are town, then...


Remaining unknowns: 7 Mis-elims left until miselim=lose assuming three remaining scum:

Day 2: 16 alive, 3 mafia vs 13 town <--You are here
Day 3: 14 alive, 3 mafia vs 11 town
Day 4, 12 alive, 3 mafia vs 9 town
Day 5, 10 alive, 3 mafia vs 7 town
Day 6, 8 alive, 3 mafia vs 5 town ---<miselim and lose.


So we have four "misburns" to spend out of an elim pool of 7, that contains 3 mafia.

That's a xenogears level solve...

[fferyllt]

Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.

I'm just asking for a few calendar days on Bell.

Who would you vote that's in my list?

I'm not opposed to DS btw. Just got a little weird about you not including the DS scumgame you modded, but I probably already mentioned that game here. It was his second game on site. He had some good mentors in the scum PT and I'm sure that helped, as did the huge town slapfest.

[Cabd]

Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.

I'm just asking for a few calendar days on Bell.

Who would you vote that's in my list?

I'm not opposed to DS btw. Just got a little weird about you not including the DS scumgame you modded, but I probably already mentioned that game here. It was his second game on site. He had some good mentors in the scum PT and I'm sure that helped, as did the huge town slapfest.

I didn't grab every game, i went and grabbed a few scum games and then stopped. Anything 2016 and earlier wasn't as relevant to me.

[Cabd]

Oh I think I misread your wall quote of DS to be rebuking me on my DS vote and not rebuking DS on the S_S vote

[Cabd]

Oh yeah metal gear solid... that was on page two of the Egosearch, i didn't bother.

[fferyllt]

ffery why not SS?
What is list of three?

I'm townreading s_s by my own crude meta and my in-this-game analysis. Cabd says he has a 100% meta tell he'll burn if I make him, but I'm not going to make him. I'm pretty sure there's a built-in 5+ count nay-vote there.

[midwaybear]

Gamma should be town as well unless what you noticed yesterday with the catchup was really bad.

[DiamondSentinel]

Oh I think I misread your wall quote of DS to be rebuking me on my DS vote and not rebuking DS on the S_S vote

If you note, I didn’t vote S_S. I was very particular about it. I don’t like their posting from the ones Cakez sent, but it’s not strong enough to warrant a major push. I’m still on the Nahdia train

[fferyllt]

ffery why not SS?
What is list of three?

That's what Cabd asked for. We're gonna see if a Xenogears style gamesolve works here, given how many confirmed town we have.

Cabd do you remember whose ISO would have the list in that game?

[fferyllt]

Vote pool in that case is nahdia, nahdia, and nahdia for me today.



And bell, but you won't let me have any.

I'm just asking for a few calendar days on Bell.

Who would you vote that's in my list?

I'm not opposed to DS btw. Just got a little weird about you not including the DS scumgame you modded, but I probably already mentioned that game here. It was his second game on site. He had some good mentors in the scum PT and I'm sure that helped, as did the huge town slapfest.

I didn't grab every game, i went and grabbed a few scum games and then stopped. Anything 2016 and earlier wasn't as relevant to me.

One momentary flash of paranoia. You know who you're playing with here. They're going to happen, but I'll mostly right myself. I'm likely dead before you get your 5 page essay.

[Something_Smart]

I don't see much behind SS yet, but I also did not see much to Taylor yesterday either.

Well, I didn't scumslip. (That you know of... )

[Cabd]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p5321309

I believe the solve is around here-ish.

[fferyllt]

List of Three start:

petapan, sircakez, midwaybear

Thoughts?

If these three are town, then...


Remaining unknowns: 7 Mis-elims left until miselim=lose assuming three remaining scum:

Day 2: 16 alive, 3 mafia vs 13 town <--You are here
Day 3: 14 alive, 3 mafia vs 11 town
Day 4, 12 alive, 3 mafia vs 9 town
Day 5, 10 alive, 3 mafia vs 7 town
Day 6, 8 alive, 3 mafia vs 5 town ---<miselim and lose.


So we have four "misburns" to spend out of an elim pool of 7, that contains 3 mafia.

That's a xenogears level solve...

{Tammy, Jake}
{s_s, petapan, sircakez, midwaybear}
{alisae,......pooky}

Do you agree with all of them? They don't have to all be in the solve, I guess.