Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

We debated between you and Ffery for a while and decided to pick you because we thought the scum team would think Ffery would draw protection.

[SirCakez]

I uh... I think there might not be that many more hoods, given the lack of response to you so far, ffery.

is it time for us to solve your hood too?

It would have been if Taylor's launch into space hadn't been the imposter.

Discuss, please.

I can, but it will have MAJOR negative utility if done so.

Are you okay with that?

If you can explain what Tayl0rs launch into space does for the solving urgency of your hood without major negative utility I'd like to hear that, but I can live.

Just know that I'm getting uncomfortable about ~stuff~.

You know what?

I don't want us to have to live in a universe where we game solve today while you distrust me.

I'm just gonna put out what I've got.

I'm a miller that compulsive neighborize-millerizes. I pick my target at day's start. I REALLY hoped your masonry picked up on the day one attempts to convey this to you and syr. That's why I didn't want you checking me or my ilk at first. That said, knowing there's a miller in the game, well, two of them, anyways, now.. That means the deathy can calibrate and come into day three with sanity mostly solved.

What is this then???

[Tammy]

yeah I'm not 100% accurate who is
but I was right about Taylor and now it's looking likely Nahdia is scum for similar reasons

is nahdia trying to sow paranoia?

[Tammy]

But like. My free floating though is that this game is a 15 player setup and so 3/1/11 is the setup.

Mason lover is just a hydra that rngesus rolls random heads for. And the game setup was balanced around that fact.

This is how i was thinking about this last night. Dethy is swingy because it seems just as likely the dethy could eat itself and take up several miselims with a different rand than with this one. And who knows if we'll have one correct solve before we're dead.

[Tammy]

Are you current cakez?

[Tammy]

I'm not as confident that cakez is town as some others are. i liked how comfortable cakez felt early on, didn't like his mini-attack on ffery calling her early reads proto-reads, and liked the push on Tayl0r. Syry pushed back on my doubt about cakez because he thought that his excitement on getting the traitor role cop lynched was real and he didn't think he'd be that jazzed about it.

And he's not wrong in that assessment, i'm just. in a world where i were scum and knew a traitor existed, and Taylor came out playing the way she was and looked to be a danger to her team with how she was playing, i might bus that shit and be happy about it too. And some people as scum can only get excited about a lynch when they're bussing a partner.

i'm not saying that's the world we live in. i'm not like omg cakez is such scum; i just don't feel as comfortable at town reading him as strongly as some others are.

(my shift key is now working intermittently :/)

[Nahdia]

my ordered to-read list rn is:

1. DS
   
2. Bulge
   
3. Cakez
   
4. Bell
   
5. Gamma
   
6. peta
   
7. midwaybear

here's a synopsis of DS's ISO:

Spoiler: this is long i boil it down below

• Unaware of mech info given from mod. Null.
  
• Votes Jake for having a lot of empty posts (i think)?
  
• Objects to pooky's RPing and implies it's scum motivated in 256
  
• Scumreads
  Taylor
  for buddying
  
• Claims he has some ability to read me... I mean, we played together plenty back in the day, but this feels a bit presumptuous?
  DS, can you elaborate a bit on you feeling like you have good insight into my alignment in general? How do you approach reading me in particular?
  
  
• Bemoans lots of fluffy content/rvs and not being able to get solid reads.
  
• Outs a bunch of reads in 309. a trend im noticing is DS does a lot of bemoaning people who aren't making juicy content so he cant read them. he did it with jake and pooky, he does it here with syryana.
  
• doubling down on the townread of fferyllt despite the meta being wrong is interesting. the reason given is very surface-level. not that that always means fake, just easy if it is fake.
  
• more reads in 720. "highposting" from midway pings his radar (notable, midway was nulltown 14 hours earlier in 309). saying they dont like bell and like the wagon even less feels a little bit both-sidesy. like options are being left open. apparently wary of peta as well.
  
• one thing i'll say in DS' favor at this point is that he's very forthcoming with his thoughts on the game.
  
• asking Something_Smart to post more fits in with that trend i noticed
  
• lists their preferred votes as Jake and then peta, cabd, and maybe Syr. talks about wanting to pressure people more than actually execute them. adds tammy to the pile of people worthy of execution. worth noting Syr was nulltown earlier, but now something bothers him.
  
• in 928 they ONCE AGAIN bemoan there not being enough content in certain slots (Syr and Tammy)
  
• blah blah blah okay

okay so main takeaways:
for someone who spends so much time bemoaning the lack of readable content various slots are giving, i think it's actually a point in his favor that DS is frequently giving his own thoughts on the game and its players.
that said, so many of his reads are marred with "but im not sure because people aren't giving enough content to read". and in fact, that often seems to be the

basis

of some of his reads. this is underlined by him saying Jake is the only read he's certain of.
there's a part of me that feels like his misremembering fferyllt and using meta on her that didnt exist is... something.

i'd really like DS to answer this question which is a response to post 275.

DS, can you elaborate a bit on you feeling like you have good insight into my alignment? How do you approach reading me in particular?

[Bell]

Isn't this game already locked?

i highly doubt that the setup was made so that everyone outing on day 2 breaks it and would warn against such complacency

Yeah, in retrospect this was a dumb comment. On the otherhand I don't see much point in any of the PR's lying given how early it is.
On the other, otherhand, people are weird.

[petapan]

I'm not as confident that cakez is town as some others are. i liked how comfortable cakez felt early on, didn't like his mini-attack on ffery calling her early reads proto-reads, and liked the push on Tayl0r. Syry pushed back on my doubt about cakez because he thought that his excitement on getting the traitor role cop lynched was real and he didn't think he'd be that jazzed about it.

And he's not wrong in that assessment, i'm just. in a world where i were scum and knew a traitor existed, and Taylor came out playing the way she was and looked to be a danger to her team with how she was playing, i might bus that shit and be happy about it too. And some people as scum can only get excited about a lynch when they're bussing a partner.

i'm not saying that's the world we live in. i'm not like omg cakez is such scum; i just don't feel as comfortable at town reading him as strongly as some others are.

(my shift key is now working intermittently :/)

i'm not as sure there either anymore. lack traction for reads on most people though. reread not doing much for me

[SirCakez]

yeah I'm not 100% accurate who is
but I was right about Taylor and now it's looking likely Nahdia is scum for similar reasons

is nahdia trying to sow paranoia?

I meant more generally, not that specific post assessment.

Are you current cakez?

What do you mean?

[Alisae]

Did we solve the game yet?

lol

[Cabd]

Team salty cohort, we all gonna be around tonight to solve?

[Cabd]

Pooky and alisae honorary members!

[Cabd]

No pressure but if we get it wrong this is who gets to carry the game~

Did we solve the game yet?

[Nahdia]

oh no

[Alisae]

I'll be around probably

[Tammy]

No pressure but if we get it wrong this is who gets to carry the game~

Did we solve the game yet?

don't worry he's being WAY more proactive in the hood.

[Cabd]

Oh thank arceus.

[Tammy]

yeah I'm not 100% accurate who is
but I was right about Taylor and now it's looking likely Nahdia is scum for similar reasons

is nahdia trying to sow paranoia?

I meant more generally, not that specific post assessment.

Are you current cakez?

What do you mean?

cabd has another claim, did you see it?

[SirCakez]

Is it the mason-lover-doctor one? Yeah

[SirCakez]

for some reason I was thinking the neighborizer one was still valid...

[Cabd]

Holy fuck.

[Cabd]

Well, unholy fuck.

[Cabd]

Like... are you even reading the thread in full?

[Alisae]

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