Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[April Ludgate]

We should definitely just fade today, narrow the pool a bit more. We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.

[morph the cat]

Ignoring shrodinger's conftown, my reads look like
{Secret Tunnels, 420.......zmuffinman........Bell} (never really expected 420 to be this high, but here we are)
{Remilia}
{Midway}
{Maid}

[April Ludgate]

I just don’t understand such hang up on Maria. If they’re scum, that’s going to sort itself out in a “Oh, that was much easier than I thought!” kind of way, so let’s focus outside of that.

[April Ludgate]

I also don’t understand Zmuffin town reads.

Can someone explain why Zmuffin is so townie.

[Secret Tunnel]

Im the top townread.

All is right with the world.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Ignoring shrodinger's conftown, my reads look like
{Secret Tunnels, 420.......zmuffinman........Bell} (never really expected 420 to be this high, but here we are)
{Remilia}
{Midway}
{Maid}

I don't know what the fuck to do with this
you won't see things from my angle and I feel like any time I engage you on 420 I get an open ended question that you don't explain anything about like "what do you make of x" rather than "this is what you need to see that you're not seeing"

[midwaybear]

We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.

How do you know we will have a double death?

[Remilia Scarlet]

I also don’t understand Zmuffin town reads.

Can someone explain why Zmuffin is so townie.

the righteous indignance of someone who realized you had the possibility of ruining the game w/ your lack of transparency about targets

[morph the cat]

Zmuffinman: no masterminding. No pushing to see that what he wants to happen happens. He's not subtly fanning the flames of multiple disagreements, and in fact he thoroughly ended the one huge fire once he saw no use in continuing it.

[April Ludgate]

Okay. Okay, okay...i see, I see. Those are some pretty good reasons.

[April Ludgate]

We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.

How do you know we will have a double death?

This guy ^ haha.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Frankly, if they thought they weren’t going to be alone as scum in lylo, it does make sense.

someone is hammering me at lylo. I will insist upon it.

[April Ludgate]

Okay.

Then it’s Midwaybear and Maid Cafe.

[morph the cat]

Ignoring shrodinger's conftown, my reads look like
{Secret Tunnels, 420.......zmuffinman........Bell} (never really expected 420 to be this high, but here we are)
{Remilia}
{Midway}
{Maid}

I don't know what the fuck to do with this
you won't see things from my angle and I feel like any time I engage you on 420 I get an open ended question that you don't explain anything about like "what do you make of x" rather than "this is what you need to see that you're not seeing"

I pointed directly at what caused my read to go solid. It's that he came into the game d3 missing key details about claims. Someone coming in with a fake protection wouldn't be so clueless about everything that had happened since his last appearance in the game thread. Even if he were phoning it in, his scum partner would have talked through the state of the game and the fact that there was an excellent chance town-us was getting elimed. Why derail that?

This involves a few facts that are in evidence to me and not necessarily in evidence to you, but this is the gamestate I see and this is how 420 engaged with and this makes no sense for scum.

[April Ludgate]

Let’s lock it in.

I’ve played devil’s advocate as long as I could to make sure we didn’t have any missing cracks.

I’m satisfied calling the game on Midwaybear/Maid if you guys are.

[morph the cat]

I asked you to look that part of the thread because I though you seeing that stuff if you read it again would be another brick in the Remilia townwall despite some chips that have occured.

[April Ludgate]

Here’s the thing, I fully believe every single player in this game is capable of making a scum gambit on the level necessary to win here as scum, I just don’t think that’s happened? I genuinely can trust everyone who’s been talking as town, except Scumbear. And then Maid being out of the game, we were just town yelling at each other.

[April Ludgate]

I put on my jester suit, starting dancing on stage, and eventually we just figured it out. :shrug:

[Remilia Scarlet]

his scum partner would have talked through the state of the game and the fact that there was an excellent chance town-us was getting elimed. Why derail that?

So you think that scum both targeted you and 420 protected you
While also thinking that 420 has to be town because scum 420 would've had a partner that talked them out of claiming a protect on you because you were so mislynchable

and you don't see the cogdis in those two statements

[morph the cat]

Im the top townread.

All is right with the world.

<3

Go forth and win this game for me!

[morph the cat]

his scum partner would have talked through the state of the game and the fact that there was an excellent chance town-us was getting elimed. Why derail that?

So you think that scum both targeted you and 420 protected you
While also thinking that 420 has to be town because scum 420 would've had a partner that talked them out of claiming a protect on you because you were so mislynchable

and you don't see the cogdis in those two statements

Either scum targeted me or they nokilled for some bizarro reason.

420's play fits the first scenario and doesn't fit the second one.

[Bell]

We’re gonna have a double death eventually, so no fade is just anti productive.

How do you know we will have a double death?

You’re about to die and this is what you go with?

[Remilia Scarlet]

or we're just eating shit out of 420's hand because you've decided it's legitimate

[midwaybear]

I don't think I will die.

[April Ludgate]

Midwaybear is alluding to partner Maid coming out and exploding ending the day before they can be faded.