Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[Gamma Emerald]

how is it you just now noticed that lmfao

[Alisae]

I clicked around quoted posts

[The Bulge]

how do you possibly have bulge and midwaybear in the same tier of reads though

Why the fuck shouldn’t I? I’m not really judging every post and then summing how I felt up, I’m just going off of what I think as I read the thread. What the hell is the reason me having those 2 in the same tier of reads is such a critical offense? Because you and Bulge seem to be insinuating that.

super defensive over such an obvious question reads like playing dumb

Cool.

BTW just gonna set up a little scavenger hunt. Anyone is welcome to try and find the thing I think is reasonably scummy from myself, but whoever finds the right thing will get special attention. Could be good or bad attention. Multiple guesses are allowed but don't abuse them.

what is this shit

Am I the only person alone in this game.

What are the odds this is a townslip vs. faked?

this is a joke, yea?

[The Bulge]

Bulge, you seem to be scumhunting based on how players are reading you. I think that's a useful channel of info given the ease of poe-ing you. Your question to gamma is interesting. I'm curious about the answer.

Have you been able to form opinions on players outside how they're processing you?

I'm in an embarrassingly unique position right now (at the time of writing, cabd has exactly 10x my postcount) so I want to use that to my advantage before drifting too far from it. obviously this channel works best with the knowledge that I am town but hopefully some of you can tune in and see if what I'm saying makes sense.

I had a running readslist in my head all while reading up, mainly only to the extent of null, scum, or town, and I'm seeing how this all fits into how I was seeing the game d1. like, I was thinking cakez seemed town but his position on me d2 is odd so I'm reconsidering to the point where I think I'll have to get to his iso next.

[The Bulge]

It's both annoying and reassuring that the only players who actually seem interested in sorting me proper are functionally conftown. annoying for obvious reasons, but reassuring because at least I know the town mindset here should be to either engage me or pressure me. compare how

ffery

,

Tammy

,

Alisae

, and

Cabd

have interacted with me this phase to how petapan, sircakez, gamma, etc have

ffery, tammy, jake conftown.
midwaybear free space.
cakez town. cabd likely town because all his top townreads are likely town so if scum he'd be boxing himself out. coming around on s_s town toward the end of the day. feel fairly good about gamma town as well. i'll call pooky town too even though that's one more townread than i need.

scum in {Bell, Alisae, Bulge, DS, Nahdia}

might be one of those games

peta's first post of d2, 2 pages into the phase. this post, oddly enough, bears striking similarities to Bell's latest reads which.... I don't know what to make of that

DS, what's your read on The Bulge?

now this is in response to DS questioning nahdia's irl reasons for inactivity, and ss is bringing up an inconsistency. it could however be a more subtle way to bring more attention my way without hopping on the bandwagon of PoEing me to the block. I won't write off either possibility just yet.

SOMETHING_SMART, do you have a read on me yet?

(Alisae, Nahdia, SS, Bulge) = my death pile

cakez quotes some of my posts next time he brings this list up sans ss in 2377 but doesn't give me anything to respond to or say anything of value about me at any point. thrown in at the end but why?

still waiting on SIRCAKEZ to actually answer my 2527.

fferyllt (291)
Cabd (287)

Bell (214)

Tammy (186)

petapan (173)
midwaybear (155)
PookyTheMagicalBear (148)
SirCakez (132)
Alisae (124)

Syryana (92)

Gamma Emerald (91)

Something_Smart (90)

DiamondSentinel (75)

Tayl0r Swift (65)

Nahdia (62)

Jake The Wolfie (58)

The Bulge (24)

part of me thinks this could be worth thinking about. I think 1/2 more scum towards the bottom of the activity overview sorted by most posts, the rest upper-middle?

more of what I see as potential shade from someone too scared of actually advocating for votes my way

GAMMA

when you say "the rest", how many were you picturing?

Conftown: Cabd, Jake, Tammy, FF, SS, Alisae, Pooky.
Town reads: Cakez.
LT: Gamma.
Can die pool: Bulge, Nahdia, DS, Peta.


Isn't this game already locked?

idk what to say about this post rn but like when are we yeeting bell?

[Alisae]

peta's first post of d2, 2 pages into the phase. this post, oddly enough, bears striking similarities to Bell's latest reads which.... I don't know what to make of that

What alignment do you think posts that read list as their first post in the phase.
I actually feel like scum would more likely want to post a readlist at the start of the phase because some scumplayers like to plan their readlists going into the phase. I'm not too sure on this but I'm wondering what you make of this.

[The Bulge]

it's the last line that does it for me especially, but my immediate impression was that it could be scum getting a headstart controlling the narrative of the day, or at worst to gauge how much people would protest such a limpool

[Alisae]

@Conftown

What do you guys think of asking the other 8 villagers to get some wagons going.
Having 2-3 wagons happening would really help me out a lot and unless all of those 8 people agree on 1 individual, no one is going to die so it should be fine.

Ideally I would like to see Nahdia, DS, or Bell wagons but up to ywall

[Nahdia]

Ultimately my reads are perpetually feels based. I think that the "logic" that so often permeates this site is a facade to hide behind and try to make this game seem like it's any more than just a dartboard until someone gets flustered.

As such, I just look at people until I get a gut read on them and then I push them. You are one such person I can get a decent gut read for and feel confident about.

I was hoping for a little more than this. You called me out as someone you think you can definitely get a confidant read. That suggests you feel you have a pretty reliable meta on me. Why? What's that meta based on? You don't need to go into excruciating detail if you'd rather not list all of what you feel my tells are, but what are the general things that make me easier to get a gut read for you?

[fferyllt]

@Conftown

What do you guys think of asking the other 8 villagers to get some wagons going.
Having 2-3 wagons happening would really help me out a lot and unless all of those 8 people agree on 1 individual, no one is going to die so it should be fine.

Ideally I would like to see Nahdia, DS, or Bell wagons but up to ywall

Sounds good. If playres want to cast a wider net, that's great too.

[petapan]

peta's first post of d2, 2 pages into the phase. this post, oddly enough, bears striking similarities to Bell's latest reads which.... I don't know what to make of that

are you trying to claim there's a problem with me having a start of day list trying to close out the game via PoE when we had 3 conftown and several strong townreads

[fferyllt]

ffery I think diamond is lieing about wanting Jake because of the deathy but that’s just my opinion

I see this 2 ways.

Jake being in the dethy increased the chance of him randomly being scum a couple points (assuming 3 non-traitor scum which is where I was at before masonpalooza happened and kinda where I'm at, still), and DS had been tunneling on him forever.

DS discounted dethy opinions about who was scum in their midst because who knows? He didn't change his vote until after tayl0r replaced out. The d1 elim was a foregone conclusion even before that. If he's scum, the level he went to potentially avoid her being elimed is pretty wild.

I see a lot of reasons to think his play is scummy. But, his play also fits a tunneled, extremely stubborn town who ignores data that doesn't fit with his current obsession. The lack of fluidity is also pretty wild.

I don't think my read ever goes strong town here. :/

[SirCakez]

yeah my Taylor SR was way stronger
I'd take voting with a weaker SR on a stronger SR

and not much else has really pinged me from Bell iirc

but you read the taylor part of his catchup and felt it was fine enough to ask him to vote with you? i don't follow

What don't you follow? I noticed he was SRing Taylor from that part of the catchup and asked him to vote with me from that because I was having trouble getting the Taylor wagon going.

is your solve now nahdia/bulge? are there any scumplayers putting in work? who has done something this game scummier than doing nothing?

I did not see this before.
No that's not my exact solve but I'd call you two high suspects. The POE pool here is really small and coincidentally most-all of the high activity players have been conf-towned (barring some shenanigans) by claim. I TR the posting of other active players like midway and DS so yeah I'm pretty much ending up with the low-posting players.

[SirCakez]

It's too early for this game to die

[Cabd]

I can't speak to the rest of the confirmed crew, but I've been on solo dad duty for the past few hours.

I'm also primary on call at work until Wednesday.

I imagine things will pick up this evening.

[The Bulge]

peta's first post of d2, 2 pages into the phase. this post, oddly enough, bears striking similarities to Bell's latest reads which.... I don't know what to make of that

are you trying to claim there's a problem with me having a start of day list trying to close out the game via PoE when we had 3 conftown and several strong townreads

actually I don't think I'm making any sort of claim here one way or the other

[The Bulge]

is your solve now nahdia/bulge? are there any scumplayers putting in work? who has done something this game scummier than doing nothing?

I did not see this before.
No that's not my exact solve but I'd call you two high suspects. The POE pool here is really small and coincidentally most-all of the high activity players have been conf-towned (barring some shenanigans) by claim. I TR the posting of other active players like midway and DS so yeah I'm pretty much ending up with the low-posting players.

yes you did, you answered much in the same way as you did here right after I posted it. once again I'm seeing 3 distinct questions and 1 answer here.

[SirCakez]

Ok and what's wrong with that answer?

[petapan]

peta's first post of d2, 2 pages into the phase. this post, oddly enough, bears striking similarities to Bell's latest reads which.... I don't know what to make of that

are you trying to claim there's a problem with me having a start of day list trying to close out the game via PoE when we had 3 conftown and several strong townreads

actually I don't think I'm making any sort of claim here one way or the other

then why make that comment at all

[The Bulge]

Ok and what's wrong with that answer?

broad strokes. I'm looking for direct and specific answer, yes/no if you must.

are there any scumplayers putting in work?

who, if anyone, has done something this game scummier than doing nothing?

peta's first post of d2, 2 pages into the phase. this post, oddly enough, bears striking similarities to Bell's latest reads which.... I don't know what to make of that

are you trying to claim there's a problem with me having a start of day list trying to close out the game via PoE when we had 3 conftown and several strong townreads

actually I don't think I'm making any sort of claim here one way or the other

then why make that comment at all

Because I'm here, laying out my perspective, like I mentioned in 2678. should I just sit on things I'm not sure of until someone else with a better idea digs it up?

[petapan]

i'm just not sure what purpose that serves other than to look productive while concluding nothing

[The Bulge]

to

be

productive. let it breathe. alisae commented on that line, you're commenting, so I'm not sure where youre coming from.

[The Bulge]

I'll be coming back to that post a lot tonight but by the time i hit submit it was nearly 6 in the morning and I needed to go to bed.

[The Bulge]

oh i forgot to mention I thought it was weird midway didnt wonder why he was left off of bell's readslist even though he engaged bell about other parts of it

[midwaybear]

I didn't really think that matters (Bell leaving me off).