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Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:12 pm

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I don't know what to tell you man. Looking over the game objectively, I look scummy AF. I called that I'd be the lynch today, then people start voting me. Que surprise! I know I'm town, so I'd rather see CHK/NPOM/Pook/Walter die today, because there is a reasonable chance of between one and three scum in that list. But, you know, nobody else but the scumteam can know that for sure so from town's point of view it's probably important to kill me, since there is no way I am EVER getting nked at this point, and I don't see how I can be part of a trusted townblock either.
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And me self-voting is not a threat. I will literally never do that, I hate the idea of it. I'm saying that I have the impulse to do so and will not. Thought I said that pretty specifically in fact :P.
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Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:16 pm

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Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
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Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:22 pm

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what are the votes at rn
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Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:25 pm

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NPOM - 6 TD - 6 by my count. Just a quick skim tho.
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Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:27 pm

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VOTE: npom
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:41 pm

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wow pisskop being blown away by profanity

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Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:58 pm

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VOTE: NPOM
if the votes were more on NPOM than TD I would have voted TD because that AtE would have been uncalled for
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Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:04 pm

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Shred-2. Neat.
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Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:18 pm

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No accounting for taste.
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Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:19 pm

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I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.
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Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:46 pm

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is td scum?
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:50 pm

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Very high probability.
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Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:51 pm

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In post 3260, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.
Why not?
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Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:54 pm

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VOTE: TD
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Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:55 pm

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In post 3263, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3260, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.
Why not?
He is spontaneous, sincere and persistent in his scumhunting.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:56 pm

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In post 3252, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
Guns and Roses II - Endgamed - Town Gun
Mini Normal 1904 - Endgamed, Town 2 Shot Bulletproof
What informed minority scum wastes time on trash meta?
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Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 3265, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3263, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3260, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.
Why not?
He is spontaneous, sincere and persistent in his scumhunting.
In post 3266, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3252, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
Guns and Roses II - Endgamed - Town Gun
Mini Normal 1904 - Endgamed, Town 2 Shot Bulletproof
What informed minority scum wastes time on trash meta?
What?
'This might be the first game where I'm townreading Doctor Drew. Not sure if that's a good or bad sign considering he was town the previous 2 times' - Hectic
'Like I am trying to not be a tunnelly asshole Drew but my patience is running thin' - Titus
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Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:35 pm

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In post 3266, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3252, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
Guns and Roses II - Endgamed - Town Gun
Mini Normal 1904 - Endgamed, Town 2 Shot Bulletproof
What informed minority scum wastes time on trash meta?
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Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:40 pm

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In post 3267, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3265, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3263, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3260, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.
Why not?
He is spontaneous, sincere and persistent in his scumhunting.
In post 3266, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3252, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
Guns and Roses II - Endgamed - Town Gun
Mini Normal 1904 - Endgamed, Town 2 Shot Bulletproof
What informed minority scum wastes time on trash meta?
What?
I think they meant that scum wouldn’t waste time doing meta?
And that’s a plus for NPOM?

At this point should NPOM claim or are they still on the standpoint of only claiming at shred-1?

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Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:43 pm

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Lavender made a surprisingly salient post
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Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:43 pm

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In post 3269, Lavender wrote:
In post 3267, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3265, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3263, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3260, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am no longer reading NPOM as scum. I will not vote there.
Why not?
He is spontaneous, sincere and persistent in his scumhunting.
In post 3266, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3252, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Here are TD's last 5 games. He was town in all 5 and he has been endgamed, so he's obviously not dumb. He seems like caught scum to me.

Mini Theme 2112 Eliminated Day 1 - Town Weaponsmith
Mini Theme 2097 Eliminated Night 2 - Town Copscetic
Mini Theme 2091 - Endgamed - Town Citizen
Guns and Roses II - Endgamed - Town Gun
Mini Normal 1904 - Endgamed, Town 2 Shot Bulletproof
What informed minority scum wastes time on trash meta?
What?
I think they meant that scum wouldn’t waste time doing meta?
And that’s a plus for NPOM?
That's actually a good point, I read it as DGB contradicting herself initially.

It was the 'trash meta' thing that threw me off.
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Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:12 pm

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Actually let me walk back the "trash" part.

I always say that meta is trash for a variety of reasons:
  • Every game is a melting pot of personalities to whom every player reacts to in their own personal way.
  • Every game day is a microcosm that becomes more differentiated and complex as the game progresses.
  • Game A might inspire a player to be in a good mood, while Game B will make the same player morose.
  • No player doing "meta analysis" is reading 5 different 157 page games, absorbing all the situational subtleties and coming up with conclusions better than random chance.
However, now that I think about it, NPOM's analysis is different. He is not looking at interactions, particular posts, wordings, perceived strategies, but end-of-game binary outcomes: "endgamed" or "not endgamed." It's a very simple test, 0 or 1.

His analysis is in fact useful and directly contradicts TD's declarations.
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Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:47 pm

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Erm, I wasn't endgamed in 2091, in fact I Carried pretty hard and town won. :/
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Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:53 pm

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You were on the list of "living players" on the OP so I figured that's what happened. I could be wrong.
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