Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

[MiniVirgo]

I'll send a few links soon, but in general when hypoclaiming NEVER fake a guilty and if a Cop does get a guilty, they should claim and out it most likely
Also scum will almost likely just yeet their scummiest or towniest member to not get caught by the Cop.

-JV

[MiniVirgo]

Hello everyone!!

-Mini

[yessiree]

imo the ideal scenario that we get out of hypoclaiming should be
1. force maf to choose sub-optimal kills, or risk killing a bussed target
this is the main reason hypoclaiming bus targets is good so mafia has to guess which one is the genuine bus targets
for it to work though, the hypo target A should be the one we want to protect, and hypo target B should be spread out
I mean sure mafia can try to out-WIFOM the hypo targets but that means the plan is already working by forcing them to choose a sub-optimal target


2. allow cop to get as many valid results as possible
so yes, cop should cop the nulls/hard-to-sorts to avoid getting tangled up with the busses

[MiniVirgo]

*cries in shouldn't say who the cop should check but you do it anyway*

- JV

[MiniVirgo]

I think Yessiree, Elephant is town.

Shelly's overall tone is vastly different than scum!them, although I'm not unvoting

[MiniVirgo]

- JV

[Big Elephant]

imo the ideal scenario that we get out of hypoclaiming should be
1. force maf to choose sub-optimal kills, or risk killing a bussed target
this is the main reason hypoclaiming bus targets is good so mafia has to guess which one is the genuine bus targets
for it to work though, the hypo target A should be the one we want to protect, and hypo target B should be spread out
I mean sure mafia can try to out-WIFOM the hypo targets but that means the plan is already working by forcing them to choose a sub-optimal target


2. allow cop to get as many valid results as possible
so yes, cop should cop the nulls/hard-to-sorts to avoid getting tangled up with the busses

yes, you're the best

cop has to claim targets imo, its THE way to optimise getting useful info.

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Shelly's overall tone is vastly different than scum!them, although I'm not unvoting

a classic in-the-pants pocket.

hopefully discomfort doesn't arise!

[Big Elephant]

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I'll send a few links soon, but in general when hypoclaiming NEVER fake a guilty and if a Cop does get a guilty, they should claim and out it most likely

doesn't that just confirm the person claiming guilty as real cop
well that's not that bad

but scum BD having priority means cop dies probably

[Big Elephant]

the reason why i hydra'd with redados was to focus on laser-pointing the scum while letting redados obvtown
im the worst ever at obvtowning while redados is very good at it

-shelly

[piisirrational]

Sando has requested replacement.

[yessiree]

2/3. Scum has their own bus drive, that happens before Town's meaning that protective the most pro-town is semi-useless and we shouldn't ever tell the Cop who to check. Not even in a given poe, they can decide on their own.

not really imo, but i need to think about this more but at first glance i think scum would try to use SBD to make sure their kill doesn't get interfered with TBD(?)

im trying to think if this is really a disadvantage for the SBD to resolve before TBD but just to make sure

@MOD if both bus drives choose the same 2 targets {P1,P5} and the kill is sent to P1, is the kill directed to P5, or re-directed to P1?

[MiniVirgo]

2/3. Scum has their own bus drive, that happens before Town's meaning that protective the most pro-town is semi-useless and we shouldn't ever tell the Cop who to check. Not even in a given poe, they can decide on their own.

not really imo, but i need to think about this more but at first glance i think scum would try to use SBD to make sure their kill doesn't get interfered with TBD(?)

im trying to think if this is really a disadvantage for the SBD to resolve before TBD but just to make sure

@MOD if both bus drives choose the same 2 targets {P1,P5} and the kill is sent to P1, is the kill directed to P5, or re-directed to P1?

P1 -> P5 for the scum transport meaning the kill goes to 5
P5 -> P1 means at the end P1 will die.

[Big Elephant]

Been giving this some thought

I think virgo is rather obvious town? they're trying to think of mechanical options when if they were scum. could have just done in the PT. Overall tone also quite townie, I'm slightly paranoid of them but I think considering optimal strategies for town (which make sense) is rather town!AI
I think yessiree's #87 reads decently genuine, engaging with JV about mechanics and thinking about strategies is unnecessary as scum

I've got pings on Johnny, giving explanations are pretty much NAI, looks like johnny is just trying to make waves out of nowhere. This isn't getting the game out of RVS, its just shitpushing imo

[Big Elephant]

89 was -shelly

VOTE: Johnny
-shelly

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not hypoclaiming, keep that MU shit out of here

[MiniVirgo]

@Not_Mafia, do you not see how it would benefit us? If you can't can you explain?

[MiniVirgo]

@Not_Mafia, do you not see how it would benefit us? If you can't can you explain?

-JV

[MiniVirgo]

I think shelly and I are both super paranoid of the other, shelly's really good at pocketing people so beware lol

-JV

[Big Elephant]

I think shelly and I are both super paranoid of the other, shelly's really good at pocketing people so beware lol

imo, one of the highlights of playing as scum is getting to eventually townblock with people

I do genuinely think you as my strongest TR atm, scum!JV coasts around a whole lot more, while you're engaging yessiree, you're trying to engage N_M

[Big Elephant]

-shelly

I think N_M disagreeing with the general town vibe might be *slightly* town!AI though, sounds like classic mislynch bait disagreeing with the consensus

redados gunna be up soon, we're on opposite sides of the world so will be here near-24/7

-shelly

[Professor Mafia]

Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

VOTE: Big Elephant

[derp]

a big elephant is obviously not capable of driving a bus either

[derp]

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

and this is true, mech talk is the easiest thing in the world to do as scum