Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Datisi]

God Ico why are you so scummy? Multitasking is the norm for scums. If we get a red flip, I definitely don't holster. scum is in {datisi, alonzo, user}
we kill one today, vig one tonight, kill the other tomorrow and its game over.

If I holster, scums kill me bc Ico's protect should and will be on Bob.

noraa, literally all of this is mechanically wrong

(1) scum multitasking is not the norm in normal games. if scum has multitasking, it has to be announced in the mod's ruleset beforehand. spoiler, there's no scum multitasking in this game.
(2) you

definitely

holster if we get a red flip for reasons explained in 3200, 3234, 3243, 3247.
(3) while i think bob is town, he is not Mechanically Confirmed. either he gets killed tonight (which removes him from PoE as he's dead) or he gets results. in either case, doc goes on the *actual* conftown.

[Noraa]

I holster if its a green flip 100% but I don't think I holster if its red flip. I read ur reasoning. so?

[Noraa]

both scum in{datisi, user, alonzo}
I do not need to holster if we get a red flip

[TheGoldenParadox]

datisi linked the posts where the explanation is

if you holster on a red flip we have a GUARANTEED win (even if bob is scum)
whereas if you shoot, we do not

[Datisi]

I holster if its a green flip 100% but I don't think I holster if its red flip. I read ur reasoning. so?

in the (imo unlikely) case that bob is scum, holstering upon red flip is still autowin for town. shooting isn't.

like it's an extra bit of EV that, while i don't think is likely that we'll need, is still an extra bit of EV, and throwing it away because "wee i wanna shoot" is dumb?

[Noraa]

what if scum no kills?

[TheGoldenParadox]

scum won't no kill. if scum no kills, you can shoot n5 and it will have the same effect.

why in the world would scum no kill?

[TheGoldenParadox]

and even if they no kill upon a red flip, it's still a guaranteed town win.

[Datisi]

then bob does not get useful results, but we still have the PoE and a couple of confirmed townies, so we just carry on executing in the PoE, and it also lets you shoot the next night to bring us back to odds.

so unless they're braindead, they probably don't do that.

pedit: goddammit tgp lmao

[TheGoldenParadox]

noraa, you shooting upon a red flip is the only chance for a hypothetical bob!scum to win.

[TheGoldenParadox]

pedit: goddammit tgp lmao

hey, just getting your due for 3133

[Noraa]

hmmm ok then ico protect bob
I die tonight.
you guys find scum. kill them. win the game

that sound like a plan?

[Datisi]

sounds like a plan to me.

do y'all wanna wait for ico to come back and clarify his own role PM or are we good with me putting username on E-1?

[Alonzo]

Your not guaranteed to die, it's likely scum will leave the inexperienced solvers alive. @noraa

[Noraa]

well bc I'm easily swayed eh? *sigh*

[Noraa]

ig that's true but I'd prefer I die tonight and hopefully I do. Either way my role is good so scums'll likely go there no matter what.

[Noraa]

sounds like a plan to me.

do y'all wanna wait for ico to come back and clarify his own role PM or are we good with me putting username on E-1?

put him at E-1

[Noraa]

protect is on Bob, I'm the best kill.
@scums
@scums
u hear that?

[Datisi]

VOTE: username

E-1.

here's to me waking up to a scumflip.

[Iconeum]

God Ico why are you so scummy? Multitasking is the norm for scums

l2p

read all the newbie guidelines

etc

[Iconeum]

mod just told me they did a woopsie in my role pm

it's protection from a single kill

[Iconeum]

noraa i'm genuinely annoyed at how many times you've screamed scum at me because 'omg you look so scummy ico'

aaaaaargh

i like you

[Iconeum]

[Iconeum]

tho i'm genuinely curious why you think that me suggesting multitasking is *scummy*?

[iamausername]

Noraa please don't shoot Ico

if you must be a maverick, shoot bob instead. that might be our best hope at this point

but seriously, you should holster