mystery box of silver 10: neighborhood (this is done)

[schadd_]

hello and WELCOME!!!!!!! to this neighborly beautywood. currently in it we have: Nero Cain Almost50 Titus NorwegianboyEE superbowl9 shellyc at any time, members of this thread may choose to sacrifice themself for the cause by indicating desire to do so in bold. this will result in their immediate death. Thanks for your co-operation

[Almost50]

And how does our "immediate death" help our cause?? *Raised eyebrows*

Also, how does it affect the game? Does it end the day for example?

[schadd_]

it won't end the day. other effects are not made known here.

[Titus]

It's most likely a troll option. I don't see it coming into play. We obviously don't expect you to use it. All three of us share a neighborizer ability and are cleared not members of the Army to each other. mastina was really adamant about you being trustworthy, so here we are.

[Almost50]

All three of us share a neighborizer ability and are cleared not members of the Army to each other.

This is alarming though. We are confirmed "Town-aligned" to each other in the Masonry (or I wouldn't have called a MASONRY). The phrasing you are using suggests one of you may belong to a different Scum/3p faction that is NOT Town-aligned.

[Almost50]

So, which of you guys actually targeted me?? Put another way, if I had a WATCHER on me, whom would they have seen visiting me??

[Titus]

So, which of you guys actually targeted me?? Put another way, if I had a WATCHER on me, whom would they have seen visiting me??

Our neighborize doesn't use a particular person to target. It cannot be tracked. It's submitted by all three of us.

We are a third party. mastina said we could trust you with this information. I wasn't so sure. We basically get points for detecting scum wagons and getting nightkilled. All three of us must be on the wagon to score. If it happens twice and we don't get on town twice, we get two points. If two of us get nightkilled, we get two points. If all four of us get nightkilled, we get 4 points. We got one point for guessing there was scum in gamma/NorwegianboyEE. We get one point each time someone tracks a nightkill from a tracker we give out.

We can auto protect someone not us and they get to determine the d3 lynch. Everyone else votes on a bp.

There's 5 group scum. Everyone else is explicitly town aligned but not town.

We also know Plusjoyed's modifier because we were told his role in the game.

The reason Nero and I doubted your claim is that we get 1 point if superbowl9 is executed.

The only downside

[Titus]

The only downside is the sb execute and we win and everyone else loses at 7 points. We can leave voluntarily at 4.

If someone else in the hood implodes. We get 1 point.

[Titus]

I am not sure if our hood does motion. I need to check with the moderator.

[Titus]

NorweiganboyEE is conftown.

[Almost50]

There's 5 group scum. Everyone else is explicitly town aligned but not town.

Can you please elaborate on this bit?? It there is no "explicit town" then why the hell is everybody sus of our claim?? Or did you mean everyone is town-aligned but not "necessarily" town?

[Titus]

There's 5 group scum. Everyone else is explicitly town aligned but not town.

Can you please elaborate on this bit?? It there is no "explicit town" then why the hell is everybody sus of our claim?? Or did you mean everyone is town-aligned but not "necessarily" town?

The latter.

[Titus]

The people who as sus of us, minus plusjoy, are scum.

[Almost50]

Okie dokie. So, if you leave @4 points the game goes on and you get your win?

[Titus]

Okie dokie. So, if you leave @4 points the game goes on and you get your win?

Yup but we can't get 7.

[Titus]

Confirm us to A50 mod.

[Almost50]

You don't need to get to 7, because then "everybody loses" and that includes me (or did I misunderstand). 4 also absolves you from (a) wanting me to suicide, and (b) wanting to eliminate superbowl. I am trying to find ways where we can win together, as ,y own win con is explicitly that of the TOWN.

[Titus]

You don't need to get to 7, because then "everybody loses" and that includes me (or did I misunderstand). 4 also absolves you from (a) wanting me to suicide, and (b) wanting to eliminate superbowl. I am trying to find ways where we can win together, as ,y own win con is explicitly that of the TOWN.

We get on the lynch of scum one more time. Then get nightkilled.

[Titus]

When schadd gets on, you'll know we aren't army.

[Almost50]

I already know that (you won't lie about THAT). My concern you were ONLY confirmed "Not Army", while we were confirmed

explicitly

Town-aligned.

there are also many points that I would like to ask about in that claim of yours (post 6 on this page) but I need the time to wrap my head around it all (I have LOTS to do right now)

[schadd_]

Confirm us to A50 mod.

mastina, titus, and nero cain are all aligned and non-town. they have opted to reveal this fact. doing so did not provide them any benefits other than enabling contracting. contracting: anyone in this neighborhood is able to propose a contract. contracts occur in the form of "if [event] occurs, then titus, mastina and nero cain (as well as any other member of their faction) must do [action] to the best of their ability or else the faction will exit the game in a loss." for instance, alice can propose "if i truthfully claim my role, then each member of the faction must vote bob for the rest of the day." i will confirm certain things individually to them in reaction to this, though spurious contracts which merely serve to confirm information (such as "i truthfully state that i am town") will not be accepted, unless they are verifying information from mastina, titus and nero cain's faction i will be using my judgement a little bit to allow for gray areas and prevent game-breaking stuff.

[Almost50]

OK, then. Let me ask you some specific questions (I have many) and you try to answer each on it's own. (Sorry to have to male you do the extra effort).

1- Let's first agree "You are confirmed not to be Army" is NOT the same as "You are confirmed to be TOWN=ALIGNED". That's for starters.

2- Why are you using the neighborizer to explain the Motion Detector result when you claim it's a group thing and cannot be tracked?

3- The points system is weird, but the game already reminds me much of Gistou, so I'll take that with a grain of salt

4- How did you get a point from "guessing" there's scum between Gamma/Norwee specifically? And did you get another point from the Gmma wagon?

5- So, you get a TOTAL of 2 points if you avoid TWO miseliminations and be on TWO scum eliminations? Just 2??

6- What "4" should be NK'd? Are you counting me?? If so, what of the future neighborizer targets?? If it's not me, who is your 4th and why aren't they here with us?

7- Did you hand out a Tracker ability already?? (Don't tell me to whom if you did)

8- I don't get the "We can auto protect someone not us and they get to determine the d3 lynch. Everyone else votes on a bp." Can you please clarify these two points?

9- Don't you fins it a bit odd the mod tells you te number of scum, and the exact role and modifier of Plusjoyed?

10- Is it ALSO mod-confirmed that "Everyone else is explicitly town aligned but not -necessarily- town." or is that your own conclusion?

11- Why would there be a "group Lyncher" on sb specifically?

12- If you have the option to win while everyone else loses you are explicitly NOT Town, but you "can win with Town if you voluntarily leave with 4 pts". What guarantees you don't go for the full exclusive win?

13- You don't want me to self-sacrifice for you, do you?

I guess that's all for now, but I may have more questions depending on your responses.

[Almost50]

Also, is your "guessing between Gamma/Norwee" the reason why Norwee was publicly confirmed not Army?

[schadd_]

Confirm us to A50 mod.

mastina, titus, and nero cain are all aligned and non-town. they have opted to reveal this fact. doing so did not provide them any benefits other than enabling contracting. contracting: anyone in this neighborhood is able to propose a contract. contracts occur in the form of "if [event] occurs, then titus, mastina and nero cain (as well as any other member of their faction) must do [action] to the best of their ability or else the faction will exit the game in a loss." for instance, alice can propose "if i truthfully claim my role, then each member of the faction must vote bob for the rest of the day." i will confirm certain things individually to them in reaction to this, though spurious contracts which merely serve to confirm information (such as "i truthfully state that i am town") will not be accepted, unless they are verifying information from mastina, titus and nero cain's faction i will be using my judgement a little bit to allow for gray areas and prevent game-breaking stuff.

think i forgot to mention explicitly, one of titus + mastina + nero cain has to affirm the contract for it to go into effect

[Titus]

1. Correct. However, once army is gone, the game is over. I can't confirm us as town, but we are not a threat to the town.
2. I was the one who submitted it, so I supposed that's where the track came from.
3. Ok.
4. We got one point from our submission that one of two names contained a scum. We guessed Gamma and Norway.
5. Yes but it only counts if all three of us are on the same wagon. So if I'm on a lynch that hits scum but mastina isn't. It doesn't matter for the wincon.
6. No. The 4 points is if mastina, Nero and I get NKed. Only we count.
7. Yes. We hand one out nightly.
8. Sure. Today we vote in our hood for one person. That person cannot die. That person determines who we execute tomorrow. Tomorrow, everyone else votes for someone to be bulletproof. We can't vote ourselves kingmaker.
9. Nope. The setup is designed for us to hate each other.
10. That is mod confirmed information. That's why mastina pushed for your claim being real.
11. To get our third parties to turn against each other to give scum a fighting chance.
12. We can't get the "full exclusive win" without all four of us being nightkilled realistically. We can't just go for the exclusive win. We have to play for town to draw the NK.
13. No. The only way I can see that coming into play is with scum being caught by the public cop.