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agree on principle of VCA being not so valuable this early. Titus wheeling it out this early feels a bit showboaty. Also as a general tip - VCA is more effective when you don't prime everyone in advance with the promise of VCA.In post 2957, April Ludgate wrote:VCA isn’t that effective this early, case in point, it brings scummier for people like e who just went around that much. Especially if this is multiball. VCA is t gonna do anything more than a supplementary to a case.
Having played lots of games with Titus, I would say she is significantly stronger as town than scum.In post 2960, MathBlade wrote:
Can we please stop outright claiming? I literally just said so above. Titus if scum is a master scum. You don’t need to give her any outs. We still hadn’t resolved the last one where someone claimed loyal/disloyal. I seriously told you how to do it.In post 2959, April Ludgate wrote:I detected motion from Titus
Be a hero.In post 2964, April Ludgate wrote:And I can catch master scum Titus if she is scum.
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it's a faction cop. so I assumed it would reveal the faction, rather than alignment? although maybe I'm wrong!In post 2999, Chemist1422 wrote:
who cops a miller claimIn post 2997, Morning Mage wrote:
nope - indulge me?In post 2993, Chemist1422 wrote:
...you do realize the contradiction in this rightIn post 2992, Morning Mage wrote:2 observations as i catch up:
1. Assume Menalque was targetted by a Vig.
2. Why would a town faction daycop not target the claimed miller-masons? to get a double result
In post 2971, April Ludgate wrote:I also don’t like Titus’ reads list like that, so I outed because yeah. Wasn’t gonna sit here with Taylor and I getting targeted like that.
more importantly than any of that, my scummy senses are tingling strongly in Titus' direction. Yes, I unashamedly want the credit for being the first one to call it.In post 2979, April Ludgate wrote:I definitely feel there’s chance for ScumTitus here to be abusing the fact she does VCA to relay her reads, but I don’t really like the conclusions she brought from it, especially considering I don’t really usually mind when Titus does VCA, so the fact that I have issues, as I’m someone who actively does VCA with success, I just feel my motion detect is now more likely to be hitting scumTitus than not, but I could be wrong, and I plan to figure that out overtime.
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well it clearly wasn't a cop because it wouldn't have been fooled by a miller.In post 2999, Chemist1422 wrote:who cops a miller claimShame on a martyr claiming friends
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Better than it being multiball and you being scumIn post 3002, Bell wrote:Oh god this game is multi ball and I’m town.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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okay so wait
if we have a faction cop and likely multiball
how does the miller claim hold up?
can one of the millers claim exactly how that passive works?- April Ludgate
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In post 1417, Almost50 wrote:OK, that's enough. O would have loved to wait longer, but I can't have the day ending (1) So abruptly, and (b) with a very likely miselimination
I am a Miller Mason
I won't out who else is (we obviously share a PT courtesy of being Masons), but I will point you out to my -rather obvious- crumb at the start if the game.
If you ISO me, you'd find I posted 3 videos in my opening 3 posts. The first one: "I'm a bitch, I'm a lover" is meant to crumb I am something and it's opposite. Bitch/Lover, Child/Mother, Sinner/Saint >>> Miller/Mason
The second video is a song by SteveMillerband, and the third is by DaveMason.
:Now here's what first caught my attention about Norwee
As I saw this I thought to myself "Who the freak thinks of Miller Mason out of the blue?" and given I was (still am) under the impression Scum either picked roles (but not whom they're assigned to)In post 104, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Claim Miller Mason, Daycop, scum. - I sleep
Claim VT - I triggered.are heavily informed I deduced there may be a Day Cop in play (thought that might be [redacted] when they [redacted][redacted]). But anyway, that was when I started looking at Norwee more closely.OR
When Bell asked about the setup, some people ignored it, some questioned it, and some tried to put off the notion Scum had anything to do with roles or knowledge about them:
Tituswas one, but I can see Town!Titus not noticing, so that's probably NAI
PlusJOYEDdid it, and in a way that I deemed fake
mastinadid it (albeit in more style as always) and coupled with her weird push on Gamma vs Norwee I am truly and utterly worried she might have rolled scum here
I have other suspects, but this issue doesn't play any part in my reads on them, so let me stop at this.
If forced to provide a scum pool (and not limit myself to a certain number like mastina does) I's bet all scum are in:
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agreeIn post 3004, April Ludgate wrote:I don’t mind the VCA in general, it’s just the reliance on it, in proposed multiball, Day 1.- Chemist1422
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i mean full tracker and public cop are already pretty powerful on their ownIn post 2991, Chemist1422 wrote:i don't think the md claim is worth much tbh
actually i think it's more likely to be a fakeclaim than a legit guilty because tracker/MD in the same setup don't make a ton of sense- Bell
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ping!In post 2996, Morning Mage wrote:
i told you Titus was scumIn post 2959, April Ludgate wrote:I detected motion from Titus- Tayl0r Swift
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doesnt this imply that the cop is miller-proof or that there are no millers in the game? or am i missing something?In post 2998, schadd_ wrote:
if there were the possibility of that kind of result tampering i would indicate as such. for instance, the information regarding norwegianboyee at the start of today is indeed trueIn post 2944, MathBlade wrote:@schadd: Do you publically answer questions? If so if a Miller was publically copped however that happened would any modifiers such as miller or godfather come into effect? Or is this the “mod ordained” truth?- Morning Mage
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she got your scumdar going too?In post 3015, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
ping!In post 2996, Morning Mage wrote:
i told you Titus was scumIn post 2959, April Ludgate wrote:I detected motion from Titus- MathBlade
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I agree the timing is good but the fact she didn’t take into account known information and wanted to set my biases from it is troubling. VCA becomes viable the moment a scum flip happens but must take into account all info.In post 3012, Chemist1422 wrote:from my experience with titus she's pretty well-known for her VCA
and i don't think d2 after a scum flip is a bad time for it
I need to see what Mastina thinks given Titus’s hard defense.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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is that a hard claim?In post 3002, Bell wrote:Oh god this game is multi ball and I’m town.- Morning Mage
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why have millers and a miller-proof cop? unless there are multiple cops i guess? like alignment and faction variantsIn post 3016, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
doesnt this imply that the cop is miller-proof or that there are no millers in the game? or am i missing something?In post 2998, schadd_ wrote:
if there were the possibility of that kind of result tampering i would indicate as such. for instance, the information regarding norwegianboyee at the start of today is indeed trueIn post 2944, MathBlade wrote:@schadd: Do you publically answer questions? If so if a Miller was publically copped however that happened would any modifiers such as miller or godfather come into effect? Or is this the “mod ordained” truth?- Chemist1422
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i would wait for her to post her notes before making a judgement like thisIn post 3018, MathBlade wrote:
I agree the timing is good but the fact she didn’t take into account known information and wanted to set my biases from it is troubling. VCA becomes viable the moment a scum flip happens but must take into account all info.In post 3012, Chemist1422 wrote:from my experience with titus she's pretty well-known for her VCA
and i don't think d2 after a scum flip is a bad time for it
I need to see what Mastina thinks given Titus’s hard defense.- Almost50
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If it's a faction Cop (which it clearly isn't) it would only show the name of the faction each time they target someone.
But it is NOT a faction Cop, because it didn't tell us Norwee belongs to <faction name> but rather that he is NOT a given faction, which means it's aspecificfaction Cop that gets "Belongs to Army/Doesn't belong to Army".
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how does your miller passive workIn post 3022, Almost50 wrote:If it's a faction Cop (which it clearly isn't) it would only show the name of the faction each time they target someone.
But it is NOT a faction Cop, because it didn't tell us Norwee belongs to <faction name> but rather that he is NOT a given faction, which means it's aspecificfaction Cop that gets "Belongs to Army/Doesn't belong to Army". - Chemist1422
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