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At this point can’t put a number on it but if we can’t find an exe Target I would settle for the ascetic claim. And ffs no if there is a vig their shot was horrible and they should feel bad and fix their reads. Outing more power with how many claims there are would net us at best setup spec.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't like jjh's claim either, but I don't want to lynch him. I feel this setup was "balanced" by what the mods expected us to do and jjh is a bait lynch. If he turns out to be the lynch today so be it. Setup spec isn't the greatest reason in the world.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Anyway, I am home now. VCA notes time.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I agree. It’s not the greatest reason.In post 3201, Titus wrote:I don't like jjh's claim either, but I don't want to lynch him. I feel this setup was "balanced" by what the mods expected us to do and jjh is a bait lynch. If he turns out to be the lynch today so be it. Setup spec isn't the greatest reason in the world.
That’s why I said if we can’t find a exe target he’s a compromise.
However 6 masons I just have a hard time seeing approved. Like I get you probably believe that but if you’re town there is no harm waiting to be confirmed. I just don’t get the panic. If you’re truthtelling, you could have just claimed neighborizer and saw who pushed your conf town. Games aren’t meant to be ran as an irc chatScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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yes absolutelyIn post 3196, Tayl0r Swift wrote:does anyone else feel like an ascetic claim is really out of place here?- April Ludgate
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I specifically think that you’re town if Titus is scum.In post 3177, Almost50 wrote:
You know I would NEVER do that, as either alignment. So, unless you think me & Titus are scum TOGETHER you need to be patient with this.In post 3056, April Ludgate wrote:
This feels like asking A50 to go along with a gambit and reasoning it to him.In post 3037, Titus wrote:A50 check the hood.
Pedit: The hood started with me, Nero, mastina. We added A50.
And Titus has a poor scum read and pushing my slot after I have a confirmed accurate result.
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i guess i would say the game is also not even regular bastard. there are no cults or alignment changes
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Thank youIn post 3207, schadd_ wrote:i guess i would say the game is also not even regular bastard. there are no cults or alignment changes
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Especially because Titus is failing to consider being on the Samantha wagon could actually be heavily town indicative based on Multiball possibility/actually might be scum still, meaning I would be getting scum pushed for a correct read.
That poor VCA by Titus is reasoning beyond to doubt her.
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Uhm *facepalm* Schadd is the moderator.In post 3210, Tayl0r Swift wrote:so schadd is actually aligned with the cult and titus is cult leader?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Nah, it goes well with Loyal/Disloyal and Motion orientated roles like MD/Tracker.In post 3196, Tayl0r Swift wrote:does anyone else feel like an ascetic claim is really out of place here?Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- Tayl0r Swift
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If you're going to challenge my VCA as poor, challenge its reasoning. I have no problem being critiqued but calling it poor because you don't like the results is a classic scum move.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I really want to see what Mastina thinks. Mastina while great at scum isn’t the best liar. There’s concrete facts she has to respond to. Between that and A50 I think it will become clear.In post 3209, April Ludgate wrote:Especially because Titus is failing to consider being on the Samantha wagon could actually be heavily town indicative based on Multiball possibility/actually might be scum still, meaning I would be getting scum pushed for a correct read.
That poor VCA by Titus is reasoning beyond to doubt her.
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Pedit lol I doubt a superstar has time to play this but if you do hi! I have no idea what this means.
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Now, I'm going to update that knowing Norway is town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I disagree.In post 3215, Titus wrote:If you're going to challenge my VCA as poor, challenge its reasoning. I have no problem being critiqued but calling it poor because you don't like the results is a classic scum move.
If anything, me denouncing it on the basis of the quality of the VCA rather than the VCA itself is more indicative of townMe.
You have failed to use the VCA in a throwing out net kind of way, and instead are grabbing fish, and just squeezing guts out to see the colors, which is how VCA gets wrecked by any scum capable of swimming through the holes in the net.
VCA is more of a big net, filtration system, and you’re using it like a harpoon gun.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- Titus
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Ok knowing Norway was town, then scum were definitely concerned about overloading the wagon/being caught off gamma/on ban hydras and waiting for town to move.
We know Ban Hydras was town.
We know Melanque was town.
We know based on these conclusions the Army was largely ineffective and could not get a wagon going. The wagons stalled out when scum got on. More scumpoints to Taylor Swift or Golden Paradox.
I'll revise this if Shellyc confirms as town or scum shortly.
But my bet is scum were passive looking for a wagon. That didn't work so they took an aggressive path today.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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These assumptions are flawed.In post 3214, Titus wrote:2. The Scum Team has at least 4 members. [Based on the revelations from Gamma in post chat]
3. The Scum Team has less than 7 members. [Arbitrary assumption based on Gamma's rants.]
4. Gamma is a weaker role on the scumteam given he's one shot alien.
5. Given the number of counterwagons, scum were trying not to have one of their own go down.
You can only rely on scum spew pre being caught not post. No burden of proof met especially with how public cop flipped. If you’re town you should redo this and assume multi-ball as an option. VCA should be done with as few of assumptions as possible. This looks like you’ve convinced yourself an outed scum was honest. It’s possible he was but it’s possible he wasn’t. Reading the restScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Well if you think my VCA has flaws, why don't you put forth what the army was doing and who the scumteam is?In post 3218, April Ludgate wrote:
I disagree.In post 3215, Titus wrote:If you're going to challenge my VCA as poor, challenge its reasoning. I have no problem being critiqued but calling it poor because you don't like the results is a classic scum move.
If anything, me denouncing it on the basis of the quality of the VCA rather than the VCA itself is more indicative of townMe.
You have failed to use the VCA in a throwing out net kind of way, and instead are grabbing fish, and just squeezing guts out to see the colors, which is how VCA gets wrecked by any scum capable of swimming through the holes in the net.
VCA is more of a big net, filtration system, and you’re using it like a harpoon gun.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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its clearly very poor because it has me as scum!In post 3215, Titus wrote:If you're going to challenge my VCA as poor, challenge its reasoning. I have no problem being critiqued but calling it poor because you don't like the results is a classic scum move.- April Ludgate
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Be sure of when I say, it is most definitely not the results of said VCA, it’s the process and application of it, especially considering you left out and ignored multiple scenarios, such as the Samantha slot possibly being scum, such as multiball.
So I’m not arguing your results, I’m arguing the process and application thus the result is voided regardless.
I use VCA essentially every game, you don’t get definitive’s this early, you get hypotheticals, and you failed to amuse the idea of scum making any sort of action anywhere, which is highly unlikely, and is an action in and of itself to withhold action.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge- MathBlade
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“See motivations” is subjective. All objective information should be obtained first.In post 3214, Titus wrote:Post all VCs into the thread or personal private note topic as this is night phase. They need to be colored.
3. Look at each VC to see motivations. Ask questions assuming both scum v town or scum v scum. (Note: T v T would be asked but we know Gamma flipped scum.)
4. As the VCs progress, look at prior knowledge to get a complete picture. (For instance if VC 1.4 clears someone, redo 1.2 analysis.)
5. Summarize conclusions.
Prior knowledge should be the foundation as that can’t change.
This looks like you are trying to formulate what you do versus an actual process.
Anyone can do “see motivations” and get different results.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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