uh who is clear? shelly is still only clear based on plusjoy's claim and theres no reason to think plusjoy's claim should be believed. plusjoy just made himself a target without actually creating any cops. and between 6 masons and a cop inventor and a tracker and a public cop its starting to look like a LOT of town power. something stinks.In post 3642, Titus wrote:Almost50 did.In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.At least we got a clear from it.
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makes me think some (?) masons arent masons and there is no traditional scumIn post 1, schadd_ wrote:the majority of players will be town. everyone is multitasking. private topics will generally always be open. there is no redirection. if you can think of something similar to redirection, it's probably not in this. this is also generally unlike a role madness game - plenty of people will be vanilla or almost vanilla.
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That's not a flaw. If you're town, then any statement "If shelly is scum, then X" is true by default.In post 3649, shellyc wrote:im townShame on a martyr claiming friends
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if shelly is scum then the moon is made of blue cheeseIn post 3654, Something_Smart wrote:
That's not a flaw. If you're town, then any statement "If shelly is scum, then X" is true by default.In post 3649, shellyc wrote:im town- Titus
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shady tone, can we all use occam's, -1 townpointIn post 3650, Tayl0r Swift wrote:uh who is clear? shelly is still only clear based on plusjoy's claim and theres no reason to think plusjoy's claim should be believed. plusjoy just made himself a target without actually creating any cops. and between 6 masons and a cop inventor and a tracker and a public cop its starting to look like a LOT of town power. something stinks.
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my read on ss is pretty clear: i don't think they're town at all, they've scumslipped and just generally seem to be giving off quite scummy vibes instead of the attempts to solve i would expect
bell is pretty scummy as well but that slot is eh for me it could go either way
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It is true that you are not conftown via mechanics.In post 3655, shellyc wrote:pedit: yeah, but X isn't correct
Argue all you want that you would have been too clueless to correctly figure out how to answer as scum, but that is another matter entirely.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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they claimed miller mason thats a joke claimIn post 3642, Titus wrote:
Almost50 did.In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.At least we got a clear from it.
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23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
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ehhhhhhhhhIn post 3659, TheGoldenParadox wrote:my read on ss is pretty clear: i don't think they're town at all, they've scumslipped and just generally seem to be giving off quite scummy vibes instead of the attempts to solve i would expect
bell is pretty scummy as well but that slot is eh for me it could go either way
tbh i'm just trying to wrap my head around the dual hailstorm and gaping hole of information and i'm not doing well at it my brain is fried
TGP/SS are not s/s? TGP/Bell could be s/s
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I don't believe you responded to this:In post 3659, TheGoldenParadox wrote:they've scumslippedIn post 3538, Something_Smart wrote:I don't understand why you think one way of phrasing is more likely from one alignment than the other. They are equivalent.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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It's too late to go get my vodka.In post 3662, PlusJOYED wrote:
they claimed miller mason thats a joke claimIn post 3642, Titus wrote:
Almost50 did.In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.At least we got a clear from it.
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the entire thing is completely nai if you look at it
if shelly is town, she legitimately did not receive anything
if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything
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idrt thats a scumslip from S_S, wrong wincon wording can be from town
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Almost50 is in a 3P hood with Super Bowl + 1In post 3662, PlusJOYED wrote:
they claimed miller mason thats a joke claimIn post 3642, Titus wrote:
Almost50 did.In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.At least we got a clear from it.
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there's a flawIn post 3667, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything
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Meh I scumread SS outside of the “scum slip”. So I am cool with them being the exe todayIn post 3668, shellyc wrote:idrt thats a scumslip from S_S, wrong wincon wording can be from town
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because it seems to me like you forgot to reread the town role pm linked on the first page, instead of your own role pm, which if town would make you more likely to say you'd check your role pm imhoIn post 3665, Something_Smart wrote:
I don't believe you responded to this:In post 3659, TheGoldenParadox wrote:they've scumslippedIn post 3538, Something_Smart wrote:I don't understand why you think one way of phrasing is more likely from one alignment than the other. They are equivalent.
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but the modifier isn't loyal, and scum!you therefore did get somethingIn post 3670, shellyc wrote:
there's a flawIn post 3667, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything
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5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
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