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yeah but as scum you know to claim the opposite of the truth, probably. at worst its 50-50In post 3670, shellyc wrote:
there's a flawIn post 3667, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if she's scum, she knows there's either a loyal or a disloyal modifier. since she must have received something, and she knows that plusjoyed isn't aligned with her, she would say she didn't receive anything
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i think trusting or giving any weight to gamma's rants is a terrible idea here why would he have any incentive to tell the truthIn post 3674, Titus wrote:
5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
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We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round- PlusJOYED
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My bet is she is too based on the situation.In post 3676, PlusJOYED wrote:im pretty sure this means shelly is town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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That’s one theory. I am toying with 3P merry go round and no group scum.In post 3674, Titus wrote:
5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round
It kinda makes more sense with what Almost50 said your win con was.
If I am right your win con is (paraphrase) “eliminate all threats to town and have one town player standing or be the last three standing” (hunch) this lends itself more to a merry go round than it does group scum. Because each of the 3P groups would consider your 3P group a threat to town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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scum shelly would have deduced it was disloyal upon getting the inventionIn post 3679, PlusJOYED wrote:they didn't know it was disloyal- MathBlade
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No they didn’t.In post 3679, PlusJOYED wrote:they didn't know it was disloyal
Imagine if Shelly is scum.
What is easier to guess?
“I got nothing”
Or
“I got fruit”
No one would expect the cop check.
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Ok. Don't trust his rants.In post 3678, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
i think trusting or giving any weight to gamma's rants is a terrible idea here why would he have any incentive to tell the truthIn post 3674, Titus wrote:
5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round
Either 4 plus SK or 5 plus vig.
Vigs are usually negative utility and will shoot the town or 3p most likely. SK has no incentive to shoot 3p and is even more imbalanced for scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Which means we have two town with pants down and nothing to show for it.In post 3680, Titus wrote:
My bet is she is too based on the situation.In post 3676, PlusJOYED wrote:im pretty sure this means shelly is town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Agreed. I think 3P merry go round is much more logical. 4-5 scum vs 6 “masons” seems wrong. (Masons in quotes because not actual masons)In post 3684, Titus wrote:
Ok. Don't trust his rants.In post 3678, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
i think trusting or giving any weight to gamma's rants is a terrible idea here why would he have any incentive to tell the truthIn post 3674, Titus wrote:
5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round
Either 4 plus SK or 5 plus vig.
Vigs are usually negative utility and will shoot the town or 3p most likely. SK has no incentive to shoot 3p and is even more imbalanced for scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Hardly, the resistance to townfirm shelly is a tell in a way. No one highlighted these problems before. Now that the results are in, there's a flaw with the process. That's telling.In post 3685, MathBlade wrote:
Which means we have two town with pants down and nothing to show for it.In post 3680, Titus wrote:
My bet is she is too based on the situation.In post 3676, PlusJOYED wrote:im pretty sure this means shelly is town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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So you're claiming the masons are actually groupscum?In post 3686, MathBlade wrote:
Agreed. I think 3P merry go round is much more logical. 4-5 scum vs 6 “masons” seems wrong. (Masons in quotes because not actual masons)In post 3684, Titus wrote:
Ok. Don't trust his rants.In post 3678, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
i think trusting or giving any weight to gamma's rants is a terrible idea here why would he have any incentive to tell the truthIn post 3674, Titus wrote:
5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round
Either 4 plus SK or 5 plus vig.
Vigs are usually negative utility and will shoot the town or 3p most likely. SK has no incentive to shoot 3p and is even more imbalanced for scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not really. I was silent even though I saw a flaw because I didn’t want to ruin the reaction in case it caught Shelly. Making lemonade out of lemons.In post 3687, Titus wrote:
Hardly, the resistance to townfirm shelly is a tell in a way. No one highlighted these problems before. Now that the results are in, there's a flaw with the process. That's telling.In post 3685, MathBlade wrote:
Which means we have two town with pants down and nothing to show for it.In post 3680, Titus wrote:
My bet is she is too based on the situation.In post 3676, PlusJOYED wrote:im pretty sure this means shelly is town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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No, I think that there’s a viable theory no group scum. That it’s just a bunch of 3Ps and town.In post 3688, Titus wrote:
So you're claiming the masons are actually groupscum?In post 3686, MathBlade wrote:
Agreed. I think 3P merry go round is much more logical. 4-5 scum vs 6 “masons” seems wrong. (Masons in quotes because not actual masons)In post 3684, Titus wrote:
Ok. Don't trust his rants.In post 3678, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
i think trusting or giving any weight to gamma's rants is a terrible idea here why would he have any incentive to tell the truthIn post 3674, Titus wrote:
5 scum and a vig is my bet. It fits with Gamma's rants perfectly. 4 scum with 3 players (in two sets) who will never vote each other is two small.In post 3663, MathBlade wrote:23 scum means minimum 12 town.
Assume all 3P claims are 3P that means 18 total.
23 at start means 4 scum + SK or 5 scum and town Vig
Or
We’re looking at 3P go round and round alignment go round
Either 4 plus SK or 5 plus vig.
Vigs are usually negative utility and will shoot the town or 3p most likely. SK has no incentive to shoot 3p and is even more imbalanced for scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am not confident enough to say that for certain. It might be just 4-5 scum v 6 “masons” but it seems wrong to me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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@Math, If you don't think an Army is groupscum after a member literally confessed to being groupscum then I don't know what to say.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why? That phrasing seems like unnecessary LAMIST. We are discussing the town wincon; this is something objective. We're not discussing my alignment, there's no reason for me to make it subjective when the town wincon is objective and available to all.In post 3672, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if town would make you more likely to say you'd check your role pm imho
I will grant that a random person is probably slightly more likely to phrase it this way as scum than they would be as town. But I am not a random person, and something being slightly scum indicative is not the same as it being a scumslip.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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meanwhile, while you all argue Nero is vote parked on scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.
This role and 6 masons, wtf, no.
Also, if Shelly is scum here who received the cop invention, they would know not to say it.
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@@SS, Who is scum? I don't care about this slip argument.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why is Taylor scum? I want her to be scum but my scumhunting is leading me a different way.In post 3695, Nero Cain wrote:meanwhile, while you all argue Nero is vote parked on scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I mean. You’re taking gamma at his word after he outed “not town” aligned.In post 3693, Titus wrote:@Math, If you don't think an Army is groupscum after a member literally confessed to being groupscum then I don't know what to say.
Pretty sure that’s spelled sucker. It may be truthful but could be manipulation when he knows he is gonna die. It can’t be taken at face value.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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