mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[mastina]

actually i think it's more likely to be a fakeclaim than a legit guilty because tracker/MD in the same setup don't make a ton of sense

And which alignment do you think April did the fakeclaim as?

[mastina]

Oh god this game is multi ball and I’m town.

(It is looking like Bell is the fourth scum by the way.)

[shellyc]

I am pretty sure this wouldn't be the first MBOS game to feature a scum doublekill mechanic, so it's possible scum killed both Menalque and Ban Hydras.

if scum have double kill power, that would make sense with all the 6 masons being "town", a public cop, a cop inventor giving to the masons, and a tracker, and a protective or something

pedit: ive been SR on April since forever

[shellyc]

(It is looking like Bell is the fourth scum by the way.)

this game is close to solved

we need to consolidate on one of {APRIL, BELL, DDL}

these three are probably just the solve
{TGP, S_S, Morning, Chemist} contain at least 1 scum imo

[mastina]

I need to see what Mastina thinks given Titus’s hard defense.

Titus is locktown;
April Ludgate is fakeclaiming an implied guilty result on Titus to try and swing a lynch onto her, but which there is zero backdraw to having made, because if Titus were to have a visiting role or if Titus were to have been visited, then April's fakeclaim wouldn't cause April to be strung up. A zero-risk, high-reward scum gambit of a fakeclaim, but one which is entirely fake.

[mastina]

I am in a neighborhood with mastina, Nero Cain, and Almost50. Almost50 was neighborized last night by me. He can confirm.

And so can I, tho I'd have preferred this not be shared publicly.

Ah well.

April's still scum fakeclaiming tho.

[shellyc]

And so can I, tho I'd have preferred this not be shared publicly.

though i heavily TR everyone in here

1) is it true that you are a 3p
2) what's your full wincon

[Nero Cain]

if those were my choices then I'd do April. DDL could be scum but im not that gung ho about it. He has like 0 charisma and 0 thread presence so he's gonna look like scum regardless of alignment.

I think you guys are sleeping on DS though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He has like 0 charisma and 0 thread presence so he's gonna look like scum regardless of alignment.

This checks out with a day 1 scum elimination though.

[mastina]

why did the neighborhood start out with 2 people

Three. Ask the mod post game, but we neighborize one person per night.

Hi guys, I am a mason.

I *think* I read a Nero game where he was less emotional/aggressive and more on the sidelines. He was a 1-shot scum BP in that one. Someone in that game pointed out he played pretty distinctly different as scum. Makes me inclined to think he's on his town meta right now

Can confirm; I know Nero's scum meta and this isn't it.

Feeling strongly that (norwee, A50, nero) is a strong starting point for the solve

This is Nero's town meta, so no on that.

Titus
Nero Cain

Vecna
samantha97

Locktown

Without ISOing, why do you townread Titus

She's my masonbuddy, obv.

@mastina, how sure are you in your d1 locktown reads? without playing with you/knowing your meta well, i have no idea what you mean by locktown here

With the exception of superbowl9, the locktown reads are 100% locktown, zero chance of ever being scum, ever. They are locked town because they are just not scum.

This is, admittedly, largely from meta (and thus also why I say 'with the exception of superbowl9' above, who I've zero meta of). I know the ins and outs of Nero's towngame and scumgame and this is 100% his towngame and literally any player who has seen Nero as town and scum would be able to tell the same, he's literally one of the easiest players onsite to read. I am fairly extensively familiar with Vecna's towngame. I am, admittedly, less familiar with his scumgame, I have to confess, but this is also 100% a perfect match to what I know Vecna's towngame to be, so he's town, too.

VOTE: Gamma

VOTE: Gamma
Sheeping my masonbuddy.

Hey mastina, I was gonna vote Titus
Can you confirm once more your strong disagreement with this course of action

Absolutely.
If you voted Titus I wouldn't instavote you because you're enough of a troll to vote locktown reads of mine even as town.

But if there were a gladiate between you and Titus, I would lynch you 200% of the time here. I wouldn't be happy doing it because I believe you're town--but in a contest between the townitude of you and Titus, Titus wins by a landslide. She's never getting lynched as long as I live.

Okay my role is like, the worst imaginable that could be assigned to jjh927

Funny, my role is, like, the best imaginable that could be assigned to mastina.

Bullet-Proof Godfather??

Nah, I'm not a good enough scum player to have any scum role be the best role.

A small sample of the proof, if anyone needed it.

[shellyc]

im completely not sold on taylor, i've got no explanation as to why taylor is scum, taylor is often SR'd and they have proactive vibes this game imo

im definitely up for April DDL Bell MM
im fine with Chemist Pickaxe TGP S_S

I believe 4-5 are in the 8 I mentioned

[mastina]

We're actually mod confirmed to each other. See mastina's readwall having me as town before I posted.

Yup.

I've been about as subtle about my role as a brick to the head.

It's pretty glaringly obvious once you look at it.

[Nero Cain]

if DDL is scum does that make his vote on Taylor not scum?

[shellyc]

if DDL is scum does that make his vote on Taylor not scum?

yes, which is another reason to TR taylor, DDL dislikes bussing if I recall correctly

@anyone
why is taylor scum

[mastina]

instantly scumread A50 for a mason claim when you supposedly are

We did. See Nero pushing Superbowl9. My questions at EoD1.

For the record, it was me who fought hard on Almost50 and superbowl9 being town, because they did something I thought couldn't be faked and confirmed they were telling the truth. (I've already shown what it was to Almost50, but not sure I should quote it in here.)

Also, since it's been outed that we have a topic:
Norwegian, this is where overnight I hashed out my townread on your slot. Titus had you as town, I had you as scum. Titus compiled a list of reads we disagreed on, you included. I went through to present my case on all of the disagreements, and why I felt they were the alignment I felt they were--it was during that process that I iso'd you and realized "wtf was I smoking, Norwegian's just town through and through". (This is also where I typed up the Pickaxe Pete reasons for being town, obv.)

[Nero Cain]

i could get down with a T.S is town if DDL is scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

We're actually mod confirmed to each other. See mastina's readwall having me as town before I posted.

Yup.

I've been about as subtle about my role as a brick to the head.

It's pretty glaringly obvious once you look at it.

Oh. You’re both confirmed town to each other? Well that changes things.
That means either April got a result of some other role targeting Titus. (If town maybe they shouls claim?) or it’s an scum role targeting Titus. Or... it’s just April fake claiming to make Titus look sus.

[mastina]

This feels like scum who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
VOTE: April

Oh it absolutely is.

One of these days people will learn that I've never said I'm a mason when I don't have a role that has some sort of functionality similar to one.

(No really, people think that I say "Hi guys I am a mason" every game, and I exploit that to say it every time I have anything resembling a mason power, but like. I actually don't say it when I don't have that sort of power. And this game I was incredibly unsubtle in saying I KNEW Titus and Nero were aligned with me.)

[NorwegianboyEE]

In that case this might be the better elimination.
Scum!April absolutely does make ballsy plays like that.
VOTE: April

[mastina]

Nero Cain, mastina and I are modconfirmed. Superbowl9 is confirmed to A50.

^This.
Nero, Titus, and I are a unit.
superbowl9 and Almost50 and one other are apparently a unit, one which I fully believe.
I advocated for neighborizing Almost50, as to let us link these two separate three-man units.

[mastina]

masontina? again?

One of these days scum will learn to actually nightkill me when my opening post is declaring I'm a mason, and not assume it's a meme that I'm joking about.

Their loss!

[mastina]

I just don’t see how 6 masons and a tracker and a motion detector and plus’s role and public day cop ever gets approved. This just doesn’t seem correct. There has to be scum somewhere.

That's because April's a scumfuck who's lying through his ass.

[Nero Cain]

There has to be scum somewhere.

could it be ^ ?

[mastina]

This is a glaring inconsistency.

There is no inconsistency.
Nero, Titus, and I are confirmed to each other.
Almost50, superbowl9, and their third, are confirmed to each other, apparently.

The setup is not designed so that Nero/Titus/I turn on each other or Almost50/superbowl9/theirthird turn on each other; the setup is designed so that the Nero/Titus/mastina group and the Almost50/superbowl9/thethird group turn on each other--

And I was the biggest proponent of going "NOPE" to that and insisting we don't, on insisting we DO work together and not turn on each other because I AM convinced all 6 are not scum.
Nero and Titus were, notably, both publicly and extensively in private, skeptical of Almost50/superbowl9's group, as the setup probably intended.

It's my stubborn ass that insisted on them being town.

[mastina]

(Also, I do have over 25 pages to catch up on, but I need to take a food break to have dinner.)