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Post Post #4125 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:57 am

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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #4126 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:01 am

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You have a tendency to echo what others say. It's simply your nature. Nahdia asked several monsters if they'd like to perform in their show, and the other monsters said "yes", so when you raised your voice, what came out was "yes". When you went to the costume room, another monster said "help me put this one on!", so then you said, "help me put this one on!" At one point, you even told someone to break a leg. That seems so cruel, and yet you said it. At least someone else had said it first.
Being a big eavesdropper, you've heard people say that younglings are just as impressionable as echo flowers, so you hope that this afterschool special is pretty pure, wholesome content. But you'll probably be copying what the others do a lot.
Since it's easiest for you to just mimic what Nahdia does, you're not really trying to change their production to become something different.

Please confirm for the game by telling me your alignment, any partner's names, and acknowledging that the mafia have daytalk.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4127 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:02 am

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Tanner, you are
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You are a hardened and grizzled soul. But you remember your formative years, before you were so toughened up. It was all the bullying that changed you, a bad experience in school. It happens to others too. You've watched it, time and time again.
Nahdia's proposed after school special is intriguing to you. How would younglings treat eachother if they thought anyone among them could be a prophesied hero? Or maybe there are other ways to persuade them not to bully eachother.
You've accepted who you are now. But you sometimes miss your purer starry-eyed self, knowing you can never go back. But there are younglings for whom it is not too late.
When the costume room was opened, you found a costume that looks just like you did when you were younger. It seemed perfect for your role in nudging the younglings towards another path.
Because the prophesied hero is in no way a bully, you have no objections to Nahdia's core goal.

Please confirm for the game by telling me your alignment, any partner's names, and acknowledging that the mafia have daytalk.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4128 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:04 am

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Not the confirms I was expecting, but works for me.
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Post Post #4129 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:09 am

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ok i think i need to actually try and make an effort to actually solve.
I still think its Krazy but I'm going to consider other things.

Like the thing with Krazy is

He tried to push Tanner and Tanner is town
He pushed Hectic and Hectic is town
He was okay with Nacho dieing and Nacho was town like

Krazy shouldn't be this fucking bad at the game.
Like he's just scum
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Post Post #4130 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:11 am

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really wish I didn't hammer Nacho but it is what it is
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Post Post #4131 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:12 am

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Right.. so basically just need to review Krazy at this point. Would say that Puppy voting for Krazy/Suji was a ballsy move when I do not think there was anyone around to defend the slot at the time. That elim coulda gone through easily. But maybe that's what scum needed, something gambity

For the record, I've been mostly clearing Krazy off his emotional reaction to Tanners suspicion. It's just something I dont expect to see from scum often. Do I have more than those two points?

There is also the part where Prism pointed out redteas extremely odd scum meta, which they did not play to this game.

I find it kinda weird though. Does scum not believe I'm confirmed town? I can think of only one person here who has expressed a lot of distrust in me. It's not Pooky. Pooky, wouldn't you have cleared me..? Of course Ali/Prism should have been cleared too. So maybe it's just a huge wifom play.

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Post Post #4132 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:15 am

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Tanner and Lavs town energy was really high to be fair. Maybe peddling a Prism/Ali suspicion is all scum had. same w/ me

Idk I could have seen maybe a Lav paranoia angle though? I personally might have pushed that her scumbuddies told her what to do with the nightkills, MAYBE. Probably would have lost though, she's very innocent sounding
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Post Post #4133 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:16 am

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Scum won't clear me because I'm not trying to look town and my actions are blatantly scummy.
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Post Post #4134 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:17 am

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Like maybe someone is going to come in and say I'm lynchable which is why I don't think I get cleared
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Post Post #4135 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:18 am

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Tanner you should refrain from voting until you are okay with day ending because I don't see how you are likely to live past this night phase.
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Post Post #4136 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:19 am

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Your predecessor was incredibly towny. I am convinced they wouldn't have risked upsetting Chara if they were scum. They did it because they really thought they had something there. There was no reason to investigate and probe as hard as they did.

But you make a fair point, maybe they can spin some kind of paranoia with Prism gone and you not tryharding
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Post Post #4137 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:22 am

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No more night phases. Let's get it done

..after my nap
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Post Post #4138 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:22 am

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Anyhow MT, Town!Krazy and Scum!Krazy are very visibly different.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=33906 This is town!krazy. This Krazy is excited to be town and you can see that they're having the time of their fuckin life like they just won the fucking lottery.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=80863 This is scum!Krazy, this Krazy cannot fake the energy that town!Krazy has.

There is also the part where town!Krazy has really good reads and scum!Krazy doesn't.
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Post Post #4139 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:23 am

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In post 4136, Morning Tweet wrote:Your predecessor was incredibly towny. I am convinced they wouldn't have risked upsetting Chara if they were scum. They did it because they really thought they had something there. There was no reason to investigate and probe as hard as they did.

But you make a fair point, maybe they can spin some kind of paranoia with Prism gone and you not tryharding
As Nacho said, Prism hyperposted and a hyperposting Prism is a town!Prism. Prism doesn't enjoy scum and they certainlly will not have 800+ posts as scum.
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Post Post #4140 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:25 am

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also my impression of Suj was that they also did not like playing scum and they only made 3 posts before they decided to go next.
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Post Post #4141 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:28 am

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In post 4139, Alisae wrote:
In post 4136, Morning Tweet wrote:Your predecessor was incredibly towny. I am convinced they wouldn't have risked upsetting Chara if they were scum. They did it because they really thought they had something there. There was no reason to investigate and probe as hard as they did.

But you make a fair point, maybe they can spin some kind of paranoia with Prism gone and you not tryharding
As Nacho said, Prism hyperposted and a hyperposting Prism is a town!Prism. Prism doesn't enjoy scum and they certainlly will not have 800+ posts as scum.
that, too, is always nice. I remember now, it was very clear he couldn't pull that off as scum
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Post Post #4142 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:30 am

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@Tanner
What are the chances I should be wary of a scum!MT? I'm assuming its a fairly low chance but I want to know if I can just completely disregard/hand the game to them if they're scum.

Like I think the game ends after Krazy -> Pooky but I don't want to overlook it.
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Post Post #4143 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:31 am

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Like actually the game just has to end after killing Krazy.
They played so fucking badly if they're town
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Post Post #4144 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:31 am

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In post 4140, Alisae wrote:also my impression of Suj was that they also did not like playing scum and they only made 3 posts before they decided to go next.
We were on the
verge
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If Krazy is scum that's definitely partly my bad, I think the biggest part where I let off on him was when he and Tanner were arguing. That kind of thing always gets me

There was a post of Krazys that someone pointed out was odd yesterday, something about him being okay with the Nacho wagon which was kind of weird. I think I was somewhat inclined to agree

still gonna like, take more time on this as to not repeat yesterday.
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Post Post #4145 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:34 am

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In post 535, Elements wrote:Hectic - Town
Elements - Town
Chara - null
Prism - town
PookyTheMagicalBear - chara
catboi - town
Morning Tweet - town
Tayl0r Swift - eh
Lavender - who?
redtea - eh
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CantLynchAPuppy - scum
Elements having redtea as eh could be scum indicative tbh.
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Post Post #4146 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:43 am

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i've been just looking at thia game for the past half an hour. huh. i kinda did not expect those confirmations.
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What are the chances I should be wary of a scum!MT? I'm assuming its a fairly low chance but I want to know if I can just completely disregard/hand the game to them if they're scum.
i don't know. from what i know of tweet, i'd say she's town here. also hectic's read there is worth something too. though i really don't wanna be making definitive calls rught after being announced ic.
In post 4144, Morning Tweet wrote:There was a post of Krazys that someone pointed out was odd yesterday, something about him being okay with the Nacho wagon which was kind of weird. I think I was somewhat inclined to agree
think that was me. i'm interested in hearing krazy's thought process on that one.

tweet, you willing to bet the game on town!prism?
your eyes on the city.
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Post Post #4147 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:44 am

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Taking a look at Puppy's ISO
Puppy voted Krazy and when Krazy got in thread, Puppy and Krazy interacted with each other a bit and eventually Puppy supposedly unvoted and backed off, but they used vote tags instead of hurt tags so the vote didn't count which is actually very interesting.
then in he townreads Krazy.
Then a bit afterwards he starts pushing a {Hectic, Krazy} solve.
He has a post where he says that "Just watch, eventually they'll make up" which means that if he's scum, he'll probably want to do the opposite of that.
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Post Post #4148 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:46 am

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In post 4146, Tanner wrote:i don't know. from what i know of tweet, i'd say she's town here. also hectic's read there is worth something too. though i really don't wanna be making definitive calls rught after being announced ic.
so you would bet the game on it?
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Post Post #4149 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:46 am

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Also yeah
Puppy put Hectic > Krazy and was trying to push Hectic more then he was trying to push Krazy

Thats a scum tactic
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