Mini 657 - Chain Reaction Mafia (Winner Announced)

Max · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:11 am

If you did roll a dice I would be truly disappointed.

malthusis<3Mustafa<3Tovarish<3Dynamo<3Crazy<3Slayer<3ZombieSlayer<3forbiddan<3Jex<3Clockwork Ruse <3 TDC<3malthusis

And that ends this stage. You may now begin the lynch stage

Crazy · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:15 am

Max wrote:If you did roll a dice I would be truly disappointed.

Yeah, I realize that, but I doubt that an 82% chance of winning could really be improved by discussion.

TDC · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:47 am

So all that matters is the last person alive.

Question: All nine townies need to vote for the same guy in order to lynch, right?
So if everyone but A voted A, A would only be lynched if A was scum.

If A isn't lynched, we know he's town and lynch whoever is chained behind A.
If A is lynched, we only lose if whoever is chained in front of him is his buddy.

This seems to be even better than 82%.

Crazy · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:52 am

That's genius, TDC.

1. Malthusis
2. Mustafa
3. Tovarish
4. Dynamo
5. Crazy
6. Slayer
7. ZS
8. Forbiddan
9. Jex
10. ClockworkRuse
11. TDC

Original Roll String: 1d11

1 11-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Crazy · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:53 am

Vote: Tovarish

Everyone vote Tovarish except Tovarish.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:20 am

One problem. Scum can still vote. If they thought they'd win, they'd vote self for the win or not vote self for the win. I don't approve.

TDC · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:21 am

What do you mean?
I'm under the impression that scum votes don't do anything.

TDC · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:23 am

Here's the relevant quote:

Max wrote:You forgot it requires a unanimous vote, 9 votes means every pro-town has to agree. Something which very rarely happens.

Max · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:24 am

No they work, just you need 9 votes to lynch.

Crazy · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:24 am

I was under the same impression as TDC.

Although Tovarish should vote someone else so his vote is not on himself when we test him.

Crazy · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:24 am

Oh, crap.

TDC · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:25 am

Max wrote:No they work, just you need 9 votes to lynch.

Oh. The "unanimous" made it sound as if all townies had to agree.
Well, then my plan doesn't work.

Crazy · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:28 am

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

Unvote, Vote Malthusis

(the person after TDC on the chain)

forbiddanlight · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:29 am

Sorry about that. It would have been nice.

Max · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:38 am

Vote Count

malthusis (2) Self & Crazy

Tovarish (1)
ClockworkRuse (1)
DynamoXI (1)
forbiddanlight (1)
Jex (1)
mustafa15 (1)
Potates (1)
slayer645 (1)
ZombieSlayer54 (1)

Crazy (0)

forbiddanlight · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:42 am

Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

Crazy · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:55 am

forbiddanlight wrote:
Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

A better question, why do you want to stall this game so much, and reject every suggestion?

Seriously, discussion will not help as much as you're thinking. Discussion here will just give more time for the scum to manipulate us.

And besides, TDC is my top pick for town so far. You have any ideas?

forbiddanlight · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:06 am

Seriously, discussion will not help as much as you're thinking. Discussion here will just give more time for the scum to manipulate us.

Did it ever occur to you everyone should check in first for lynch phase? Oh, and also it's a lot easier for scum to manipulate when we are trying to speedlynch someone rather than slowing down a bit and thinking.

And besides, TDC is my top pick for town so far. You have any ideas?

None. Since you know, only you, I, and TDC have checked in.

A better question, why do you want to stall this game so much, and reject every suggestion?

Maybe because your suggestion was manipulatable, and TDCs was complete failure anyway? I'm not stalling, I'm trying to save us from blindly following someone here.

Look, I'm a VERY bloodthirsty girl, and when I play mafia, I usually prefer faster days. But this is fucking ridiculous. I'm not gonna lose the game because you are trying to ramrod a lynch through that may or may not be advantageous to scum.

Crazy · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:26 am

forbiddan wrote:Did it ever occur to you everyone should check in first for lynch phase? Oh, and also it's a lot easier for scum to manipulate when we are trying to speedlynch someone rather than slowing down a bit and thinking.

More discussion will mean more time for the scum to look pro-town, or make their buddy look pro-town. It will be

very

hard to improve on an 82% chance of winning.

And if you disagree that TDC suggesting that plan makes him seem very pro-town, please tell me why. A plan doesn't have to work for it to be pro-town.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:08 am

And if you disagree that TDC suggesting that plan makes him seem very pro-town, please tell me why. A plan doesn't have to work for it to be pro-town.

I disagree that any plan makes anyone look pro town. It's a null tell, and maybe a slight town tell. The fact it doesn't work makes it more of a null tell. I won't say he was intentionally misleading us (he likely wasn't), but it's still a possiblity.

More discussion will mean more time for the scum to look pro-town, or make their buddy look pro-town. It will be very hard to improve on an 82% chance of winning.

And more discussion would also allow any pro town acting scum to slip up. that's why longer days almost ALWAYS favor town.

ZombieSlayer54 · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:25 am

forbiddanlight wrote:
Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?

Agreed.

Crazy wrote:
forbiddanlight wrote:
Still, just from suggesting that plan, I'd like to assume that TDC is town. If we don't want to go for a random lynch, I'll go for that.

We barely have a page of discussion. Why are you trying to push the lynch so quickly?
A better question, why do you want to stall this game so much, and reject every suggestion?

Seriously, discussion will not help as much as you're thinking. Discussion here will just give more time for the scum to manipulate us.

And besides, TDC is my top pick for town so far. You have any ideas?

Stalling the game is bad? How in hell is stalling the game bad, in such a situation as this, where we have ONE lynch to get everything right?

One lynch. Do we REALLY want to fuck up the only lynch of the game? No, not really. So a discussing we will go.

Crazy · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:27 am

Voting is what starts discussion, people. Saying "we need discussion" is a stupid attempt to look pro-town.

I'm not saying we should speed-lynch, but we should keep this game moving as fast as possible. If you want discussion, DISCUSS SOMETHING!!!!!

forbiddanlight · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:27 am

One lynch. Do we REALLY want to fuck up the only lynch of the game? No, not really. So a discussing we will go.

Thank you. It's kinda lylo except for the unanimous vote thing (and thank god for that)

ZombieSlayer54 · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:28 am

Crazy wrote:
forbiddan wrote:Did it ever occur to you everyone should check in first for lynch phase? Oh, and also it's a lot easier for scum to manipulate when we are trying to speedlynch someone rather than slowing down a bit and thinking.
More discussion will mean more time for the scum to look pro-town, or make their buddy look pro-town. It will be
very
hard to improve on an 82% chance of winning.

And if you disagree that TDC suggesting that plan makes him seem very pro-town, please tell me why. A plan doesn't have to work for it to be pro-town.

And more discussion means more time for scum to slip up.

I prefer having a 99% chance of winning.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:29 am

I'm not saying we should speed-lynch, but we should keep this game moving as fast as possible. If you want discussion, DISCUSS SOMETHING!!!!!

Well, first, I'd like everyone to show up and say hi or something. And we are discussing tatics for how the lynch should go, ne? I mean, I've already discussed why the two plans proposed aren't great. Well, to be fair, yours was good Crazy (except for the idea that dice can be fixed), it's just against the spirit of the game and I can't condone that.

Voting is what starts discussion, people. Saying "we need discussion" is a stupid attempt to look pro-town.

Yeah, but your voting is pressure or even motivated by anything. It's a "We will try to finish this game in 2 pages flat depending on dice".