Newbie 2037 - Game Over

[ItalianoVD]

Generally RVS is used to get people to react to being voted for or having pressure on them. RVS is for the short term, RQS is for the long term. If that makes sense.

[ItalianoVD]

1. ive played mafia with some irl friends, read a few games here back when i registered (couldn't play cus school and stuff) and read a few recently completed games too
2. playing scum gives me a kind of thrill which i really enjoy, but i like deducing stuff as town too
3. (shouldnt reveal top secret 1000iq strats)
4. (shouldnt reveal top secret 1000iq strats)
5. ez pz i think

Why not just answer 3 and 4. What do you have to hide?

@NorfolkBoy: you should ask Rockhopper the question you asked Mini.

[ItalianoVD]

Non answers get scumread.

Smooth. It seems like you're pretty experienced at manipulating people to do what you want them to do?

In any case, I don't want to get scumread, so here goes:

1. What is your overall mafia experience? Not just on this site.
2. Do you prefer playing scum/wolf or town/village?
3. In your opinion, what are some of the top things to look for when scumhunting?
4. When townhunting?
5. Is it easy or difficult for you to lie?

1. I have little/no mafia experience. I witnessed my housemate play a game on a different site once, but that's the extent as to how far my knowledge goes.
2. I can't really comment due to lack of experience.
3. Look out for contradictions, deliberately misusing peoples quotes out of context in order to fit their own agenda and lurking/deliberately staying out of the thread to avoid questions/trying to slip under the radar.
4. Look for people who have their own reads and back it up with proof instead of just blindly hopping on the bandwagon because everyone else is. The more activity to go off, the better. Being too verbose could have an adverse effect too I guess. I dunno, it's a tough one
5. I can't lie worth a ****. I always inevitably get called out on it and I'm not the best at thinking on my feet, so I figure it's not worth the hassle.

Lol, that phrase is just me being facetious (notice the emoticon), but I really appreciate the answers. Thank you.

[ItalianoVD]

And why no answer of 3 and 4 from you? @NorfolkBoy

[ItalianoVD]

1. I play on Mafia.gg alot and I also used to play town of salem.
2. I prefer being town.
3. When scumhunting I think you should look for people who haven't contributed much to the conversation.
4. When townhunting I try to ask myself if they would do this as a mafia.
5. Pretty hard to lie ngl.

So I’m assuming you’re gonna be contributing more?

[Micc]

Votecount 1.01

bakslash (2) -

padwag, Billy Pilgrim

ItalianoVD (2) -

MiniMegabyte, Rockhopper

Norfolk Boy1 (1) -

Facebones

Not Voting (4) -

Bakslash, Norfolk Boy1, ItalianoVD, Dunnstral

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-10-30 12:15:00).

[Rockhopper]

1. ive played mafia with some irl friends, read a few games here back when i registered (couldn't play cus school and stuff) and read a few recently completed games too
2. playing scum gives me a kind of thrill which i really enjoy, but i like deducing stuff as town too
3. (shouldnt reveal top secret 1000iq strats)
4. (shouldnt reveal top secret 1000iq strats)
5. ez pz i think

Why not just answer 3 and 4. What do you have to hide?

@NorfolkBoy: you should ask Rockhopper the question you asked Mini.

I honestly don't know. I think being the informed minority, there's a psychological burden on the mafia of trying to scumhunt knowing fully well that there is no other secret faction to hunt down, while having survival as the top priority to achieve their wincon at the same time. I plan to try and deduce on this basis.

I don't really see how 3 and 4 are more useful to town than scum, that's one of the reasons for my vote.

[Norfolk Boy1]

She voted for ItalianoVD before the RQS saga even came into the equation. How could it possibly be the basis for her vote?

You're quite right. That was meant for Rockhopper.

[Norfolk Boy1]

And why no answer of 3 and 4 from you? @NorfolkBoy

I answered 4. I'm not answering 3 as there's no need to reveal to scum what pings me as scumtell.

[ItalianoVD]

I honestly don't know. I think being the informed minority, there's a psychological burden on the mafia of trying to scumhunt knowing fully well that there is no other secret faction to hunt down, while having survival as the top priority to achieve their wincon at the same time. I plan to try and deduce on this basis.

And how are you going to do that?

I don't really see how 3 and 4 are more useful to town than scum, that's one of the reasons for my vote.

I’ve asked these questions in multiple games before and as I mentioned it not only gets people talking, but it allows the town to get to know each other. Unfortunately scum is part of our town, but these questions can tell us a lot, even though you don’t think so. Think about it, if I hadn’t asked those questions what would be happening right now? Nothing. I even got you to vote for me. I didn’t RVS vote, instead I did RQS. I don’t have to waste a pointless vote, but now I can interact with the playerlist and go from there.

And why no answer of 3 and 4 from you? @NorfolkBoy

I answered 4. I'm not answering 3 as there's no need to reveal to scum what pings me as scumtell.

My mistake, I missed that. And I think scum will play the way they’re gonna play without input from the town. I highly doubt they’re in their chat waiting for someone to post what’s scummy and do the opposite. As it stands, most, if not all scum players want to be townread or look like town, carefully posting as not to make themselves look scummy, even more so for newb scum players. Scum can only fake it for so long and they will get found. I haven’t played with Billy or Dunnstral before, but if all the SEs are town aligned, then it’ll be a wrap for newbscum.

[ItalianoVD]

VOTE: padwag

Actually no, this was worse

VOTE: bakslash

Not sure where your head is on this? RVS? Serious?

[ItalianoVD]

Where are you Dunnstral?

[Norfolk Boy1]

And I think scum will play the way they’re gonna play without input from the town. I highly doubt they’re in their chat waiting for someone to post what’s scummy and do the opposite.

But you do recognise that the question you posed could be giving scum pointers?

[padwag]

Billy Pilgrim seems to be town right now because they are thinking about the game, but this is a weak read as we have barely started.

[MiniMegabyte]

You really think I’d be asking the town how to scum?

You have a good point there I don’t think you would but I would say the same thing to anyone that asked those questions

[MiniMegabyte]

My take on it is that both RQS and RVS are ways to get to know the players. I think RQS is a more direct way and RVS a more indirect way, but to answer your question yes. I feel RQS helps me understand the players better than RVS, which in turn helps in scumhunting and also townhunting.

Okay that’s a pretty fair point but I just think RQS can be dangerous in terms of telling the scum what you’re looking for in a town/scum person but that’s just my opinion

[MiniMegabyte]

Where are you Dunnstral?

Have they even posted at all?

[padwag]

Let’s make things interesting with some RQS

For those that don’t know, RQS is called Random Questioning Stage and it has its advantages. And this is for everyone in the playerlist. Non answers get scumread.

1. What is your overall mafia experience? Not just on this site.
2. Do you prefer playing scum/wolf or town/village?
3. In your opinion, what are some of the top things to look for when scumhunting?
4. When townhunting?
5. Is it easy or difficult for you to lie?

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1. I’ve been playing the wolf version of mafia since 2006. Mafiascum.net for 5 months.
2. Town/Village
3. Apathy, inconsistencies, passiveness/aggressiveness giving the context, perfect posting, and voting patterns.
4. Disagreeableness, having one’s own mind and gut feel. Oh and a little scumminess never hurt.
5. Yes. I find it very difficult to lie and work to just not do it.

1. I have played medium paced mafia before as well as fast paced, but never a forum game.
2. No preference.
3. First, I look for how much the person is contributing. Not just linecount, but how much they have tried to make the game better for town. Second I look at tone. If they are saying something that seems to have an unclear or shady motive behind it, then they could be scum.
4. For townreads, I like to look at the emotion and thought shown in their posting. If someone is showing genuine emotions in their posting and/or putting well reasoned thinking into their posts, they are likely town.
5. I find I can lie quite easily.

[padwag]

I am testing reactions

what do you make of bak's post?

Not much. I feel that town or scum could question my vote like that, especially as it was given with no context.

[MiniMegabyte]

Padwag any chance you could please set an avatar? Just makes it easier to identify your posts

[Dunnstral]

First!

VOTE: Dunnstral

That move you pulled in the newbie with me and Bailey was foul.

Remind me what you're talking about

[MiniMegabyte]

First!

VOTE: Dunnstral

That move you pulled in the newbie with me and Bailey was foul.

Remind me what you're talking about

Welcome Dunnstral!

[MiniMegabyte]

Did not mean to quote that post my bad

[Dunnstral]

nevermind, I should have continued to read.

1. What is your overall mafia experience? Not just on this site.
2. Do you prefer playing scum/wolf or town/village?
3. In your opinion, what are some of the top things to look for when scumhunting?
4. When townhunting?
5. Is it easy or difficult for you to lie?

1. I have played a lot on this site
2. Town or third party
3. Look at associatives between two people, unless they fake it specifically, so it's not reliable
4. Look for people who seem genuine
5. In social deduction games it's pretty easy

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral, do you have anything to add to post #10? Keen to hear your thoughts on the matter

Why are you wanting my thoughts on that? I can confirm that that is something that happened