Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[Remilia Scarlet]

Bulge, Maid, April, and I'm inching muffin into that group as a bank-it read that I don't want to touch
if you somehow faked 7050 well, um, great for you.

[Secret Tunnel]

I still don’t get maids play this game day though

[Remilia Scarlet]

and why?

do i really need to explain those first three?

In order to believe

either

of April,Maid you have to assume that this ability is self-targetable

[morph the cat]

one last thing, and forgive me for asking this...

now that 420 flipped can you go in depth like i'm five years old level of not understanding, why you thought your role and 420's couldn't coexist?

[morph the cat]

Not gonna lie that post was a really roundabout way of asking you if we were in your pool and if so/not, why.

[Secret Tunnel]

Purely based off a glimpse at vca I don’t think bell makes sense as last scum (and his play)

Still skimming vcs hold on

[morph the cat]

I still don’t get maids play this game day though

It still bugs the hell out of me that we zoomed in on two scum by looking at maid-associations while assuming maid-scum.

I'm accepting that night actions make that impossible, but I don't wanna.

[Secret Tunnel]

Do we think only one scum bussed plus?

[Secret Tunnel]

Remi’s vote mirrored plus for a while before moving- they were on 420 for a good while d2 together

[morph the cat]

Do we think only one scum bussed plus?

After the amount of red in his powershell?

Not banking on it.

[morph the cat]

I also want to express my extreme displeasure at the way Bulge has chosen to not give a fuck once confirmed.

[Secret Tunnel]

I think it’s interesting Bork is on the joyed wagon but back on the 420 wagon despite joyed being one of the primary pusher of said wagon. When 420 was a big wagon there was one point when joyed and Bork were both on it and then another when joyed and bear were on it while Bork had swapped over to joyed, to only go back to 420 on d3 and sit there while we all clowned the bear (I think it’s a fair assumption that scum wouldn’t want to bus there?)

Pedit
This game is a chore to catch up and he’s prob busy irl so I get it

[Remilia Scarlet]

now that 420 flipped can you go in depth like i'm five years old level of not understanding, why you thought your role and 420's couldn't coexist?

No,

that

is a suspicion i can entirely understand

Initially I thought that all the claimed PRs just painted too strong of a picture without one being fake, and it's why I claimed when I did, and I thought it heavily controlled who scum got to eliminate in a way that seemed unlikely to have both of 420 & me being town - because I thought a me alive at ELO could turn a loss into a win with scum none the wiser (i mean fuck depending on the team we could probably get the whole fucking team to claim after they thought they'd won. Is that fair? Probably not but that's not my fucking problem lol). I also thought that it synergized in a way that basically would allow 420 to get me to endgame if he so chose to w/o scum really being super able to stop it from happening

Yesterday I didn't see a world where scum has to deal w/ 420 and April and instead goes for you; but if they only had to deal w/ one of those two because the other was scum then it made considerably more sense.

[Secret Tunnel]

My question is if it isn’t us or Bork, why alien maid? It makes 0 sense, I severely doubt that scum is banking on town Bork or town us surviving late unless it’s someone hoping to take advantage of paranoia down the line? But even then isn’t the smarter play to kill us before we catch on?

[Remilia Scarlet]

(I think it’s a fair assumption that scum wouldn’t want to bus there?)

Trust me, I read F/GO

If I thought my Archer buddy was going down you bet your fucking ass I'd have no problem powerbussing that goon flip

(I hate having to make this kind of argument but come on)

[Secret Tunnel]

I’m not pushing you with it I’m thinking Bork, relax

[Secret Tunnel]

Final Bear wagon was us, bell, April, morph, bear.

I don’t think morphs interactions with bear say s/s

I know I’m town and April is town

Do you think bell is scum?

[Remilia Scarlet]

relax

there is no relax

[Remilia Scarlet]

Do you think bell is scum?

I really haven't ruled it out to the extent others have

you made a post earlier:

[Remilia Scarlet]

I am pretty nuts Bell, but like the chance that you are scum is like smaller than the chance that I misread our role PM and we’re scum

-innocentvillager

ok IV made it but still

want to know what the rationale is behind that statement

[morph the cat]

now that 420 flipped can you go in depth like i'm five years old level of not understanding, why you thought your role and 420's couldn't coexist?

No,

that

is a suspicion i can entirely understand

Initially I thought that all the claimed PRs just painted too strong of a picture without one being fake, and it's why I claimed when I did, and I thought it heavily controlled who scum got to eliminate in a way that seemed unlikely to have both of 420 & me being town - because I thought a me alive at ELO could turn a loss into a win with scum none the wiser (i mean fuck depending on the team we could probably get the whole fucking team to claim after they thought they'd won. Is that fair? Probably not but that's not my fucking problem lol). I also thought that it synergized in a way that basically would allow 420 to get me to endgame if he so chose to w/o scum really being super able to stop it from happening

Yesterday I didn't see a world where scum has to deal w/ 420 and April and instead goes for you; but if they only had to deal w/ one of those two because the other was scum then it made considerably more sense.

This basically just reinforces my gut feel that thinking we can solve this game on the back of the claimed night actions and mechanics assumptions we're making is just wrong and is going to lead to bad places.

Maybe my reasons for believing a white mage in this game was totally a thing are just as flawed, though.

[Secret Tunnel]

But why does a Bell Bear Joyed team alien maid n1?

Pedit
Dunno I think he’s asleep

He’s kinda overwhelmed by all the new roles I told him most of them were similar to normals because I remembered them being similar to it but now I look like an ass lol

[morph the cat]

But why does a Bell Bear Joyed team alien maid n1?

Welcome back to me, 20ish hours ago.

[morph the cat]

But why does a Bell Bear Joyed team alien maid n1?

Welcome back to me, 20ish hours ago.

More accurately, what third name DOES alien maid night one.

I just can't wrap my head around a world where they see maid's shittiest of shitty reads and then decide to pass on getting to start day two with three dead town.

[Secret Tunnel]

I think that’s the bottom line. Someone in our bloc is it. They either were self preserving or needed the whole bloc in one piece for more places to hide.