mystery box of silver 10: neighborhood (this is done)

[mastina]

Btw something that might help:
The color of our role PMs.
Our role PMs are not the same shade of green as the town role PM, but they

are

still *a* shade of green.

(I'm not mentioning the exact color here because Titus/Nero might wanna know the color of your PMs before revealing what the color of ours is, since they're pretty mad at me already and I don't want to make them even more mad, but if they give me the okay to share it, then I will.)

[mastina]

Btw something that might help:
The color of our role PMs.
Our role PMs are not the same shade of green as the town role PM, but they

are

still *a* shade of green.

(I'm not mentioning the exact color here because Titus/Nero might wanna know the color of your PMs before revealing what the color of ours is, since they're pretty mad at me already and I don't want to make them even more mad, but if they give me the okay to share it, then I will.)

Okay, both said it doesn't matter, so to reveal it:
The color of our faction is #14582.
As in, when we flip, it'd be [color=#14582]Henry P. Jurgenssen Society[/color]--which is different from the town's shade of green, #06db0d, but which is still a shade of green.

[mastina]

Wait why didn't that work? Oh, I see. Copy-paste error, I left out the 6 at the end.
The color of our faction is #145826, so we flip as

Henry P. Jurgenssen Society

, which is different than

the green color

.

[mastina]

Herpderp,

*which is different than the town color.

[Almost50]

lets talk about who you want to lynch a50.

Let's see...

Town reads (ordered by mechanical strength)

Top Tier: Almost50 + superbowl + Morning Mage (That's obviously what I started the game with, i.e. confirmed mod info to me)

Second Tier: PlusJOYED (I think this is obvious too)

Third Tier: mastina + Titus + Nero (I do believe you wholeheartedly. It's just not "mod-confirmed" to me, so that's why)

Fourth Tier: Norwee (cleared via YOUR claim that Scum are ONLY "Army", so is less than you, although technically can be on the same level??)

Fifth Tier: jjh (again, this is cleared through your info, and even then it's via an unverified claim)

/END OF MECHANICAL READS

By play, Swift is the Towniest (Don't ask. You're entitled to your own reads, and I could be wrong)

S_S & Bell come next. I have nothing specific to point out. They just don't seem scummy to me. AGAIN, I could be misreading them.

I don't remember why we cleared TGP (and frankly don't care at this time)

Scum Reads (unordered, although some are categorized/grouped)

Mathblade: I guess I am fence-sitting on this one. On the one hand I know how erratic and stubborn Town!him can be. On the other hand, his push to "know it all NOW" doesn't bode well with me AT ALL.

ddl: I don't like his nonchalant nonexistence.

shelly: I am more adamant this is SCUM now than I ever was before. Her pushes on 3P feel most unnatural. The clear on her in NOT a clear AT ALL, yet she tried to use THAT to get into this hood. I feel it in my bones that this is SCUM, and will probably nuke that if you don't object.

The trio of Pickaxe/Chemist/DS have 2-3 scum in them/ I am not buying they ALL have such GREAT reads they were all on Gamma and all off April. DS ended up the lone voter of S_S for "fluffy reasoning at best", while the other two were not voting at all (I think that was to confirm the "towncred" they got from the Gamma bus, and especially so for Chemist who was late to hop on Gamma)

[Almost50]

Ok. You're not getting a tracker A50. Apparently the tracker ability was a one shot.

Yeah it said once at night, so we assumed once every night.

I do take full responsibility for this.

I will still try to be a mediator, keep things from getting heated, keep fighting from going on, try to get people to get on the same page in terms of reads, but as I already told Nero/Titus: I got nuthin'.

I thought I really had something. That between our roles, we had caught April, that his play was scum through and through.

I can shift gears here to be more defensive. Help give proof that we're a 3p not scum, help show that we're telling the truth that this game is singleball and with one scumteam and only one scumteam. Can continue to coordinate, can continue to try and be a voice of reason in getting people on the same page, smoothing over tensions, etc.

But I fully deserve to not be listened to and accept that because I fucked up.
If April had flipped scum, we'd all be golden. We'd all be on the same page, we'd be proven, we'd be able to show that we're telling the truth, we'd be able to work together as a six-man cohesive unit. But since he didn't. Damage control mode. Trying to keep infighting to a minimum.

I made a mistake, I thought I was right when I wasn't, was so sure I was right when I wasn't, so I'll own up to the consequences of that.

1- I told you you were conf!biasing
2- I also told you mod reassured me TWICE that the MD should detect your action. I asked in two different ways, and the second time was "If we were 3 Goons in my faction and we had a factional RB/Busdrive..." and he still said he would likely attribute the action to one individual

Conclusion: You either ASSUMED that's how it works, or you were too confident in your SR on FL you actually "lied" to me about this specific detail.

P.S. Not calling you a "liar" per se. Just saying you were too confident you faked a guilty to get it done. I did fake guilties as Town before, so i understand if that's the case.

[Titus]

I don't object to a shelly nuke at all. In fact my VCA encourages it. If that's an all town wagon on town, then scum had to be asleep at the switch. My only reservation is our wincon but at this point I think we're going the nightkill route anyway.

I think Chemist and Pickaxe are where your scum are. Pickaxe has been doing fuck all this game and Chemist I cased yesterday.

I wouldn't mind nuking them.

[Almost50]

I suppose for a start:
Almost50, can you ask your group to all compile their reads and ideally list reasons with them? I'm looking for four lists total, from Morning, Battle Mage, superbowl9, and yourself.
Nero/Titus, can you do the same?

I imagine between those six lists, there will be rather strong disagreements involved; I wanna see if there's any points we can bridge the gaps in, to get closer to the same page and give us a better grip on things.

I conveyed the request

[Titus]

I am behind at work. I hope I can get to it tonight.

[Almost50]

Btw something that might help:
The color of our role PMs.
Our role PMs are not the same shade of green as the town role PM, but they

are

still *a* shade of green.

What colour in what PMs? I thought you said you only got a link like we did!!

[Almost50]

Btw something that might help:
The color of our role PMs.
Our role PMs are not the same shade of green as the town role PM, but they

are

still *a* shade of green.

(I'm not mentioning the exact color here because Titus/Nero might wanna know the color of your PMs before revealing what the color of ours is, since they're pretty mad at me already and I don't want to make them even more mad, but if they give me the okay to share it, then I will.)

O was actually going to ask you to provide the colour CODE after you had explained the "PM" thing just to see the colour you're referring to. My PM had

a link

to our PT in the body, and not a single letter more.

[Almost50]

Herpderp,

*which is different than the town color.

Are you referring to the text at the OPENING POST of your PT?? The mention of the PM confused me. If you're talking about how our factions name appears in the OPENING POST of the PT, it's

Goliath Gouthwits Health Interns.

(which appear to me to be more blue than green, but I am on a PC so colour shades may or may not be a little different

[Almost50]

I don't object to a shelly nuke at all. In fact my VCA encourages it. If that's an all town wagon on town, then scum had to be asleep at the switch. My only reservation is our wincon but at this point I think we're going the nightkill route anyway.

I think Chemist and Pickaxe are where your scum are. Pickaxe has been doing fuck all this game and Chemist I cased yesterday.

I wouldn't mind nuking them.

1- That would still be 1 scum short (Chemist+Pickaxe+shelly+???)

2- What about your wincon? There's no wagon anyway, so how does it affect your wincon?

3- You already have one point. If 2 of you get NK'd you will earn another 2 (3 in total) and if needs be I can suicide to grant you that 4th point if we are doing well against the "King "something" Army"

[Titus]

1- I am one scum short. I still think that slot goes to a more active player. I am not sure who.

2 - Semantic meaning could apply. A wagon of one. Just ruling it out. It seems pretty bullshit for it to apply but oh well.

3- Thank you. I would volunteer to be vigged but let's hope it doesn't come down to you suiciding. If we get a beat on the vig, we should invite them in, so they shoot one of us every night.

[Titus]

I have about 20 minutes to kill. Want to talk about who the face should be?

Or should I just take the easy route and guess MathBlade?

[Titus]

Ok schadd responded. We can lynch scum without it affecting our wincondition tmo.

[Almost50]

I have about 20 minutes to kill. Want to talk about who the face should be?

Or should I just take the easy route and guess MathBlade?

Face? I suppose you mean faDe?? As in "the target of elimination"?? But then I did say it was most probably shelly, so I am not sure that's what you meant.

I could do Math if that's what you recommend. I am just not as confident, because I know this is how he plays as either alignment.

[Almost50]

I mean, part of it is I don't want to upset him if he is Town, but that's "bringing outside influence" I guess, so let's pretend I didn't say that.

[Almost50]

So, does the day go on as usual until I submit my target or is the day skipped altogether?

[Titus]

Sorry. I refer to the face as an active, usually charismatic player.

I am definitely not confident in Math. That would be an annoyance elimination.

The day goes on when you are kingmaker. Town submits votes for a one shot bulletproof.

[Titus]

So when I asked you to discuss the scum face, I am asking you to discuss an active, usually charismatic player that might be scum.

[Titus]

I am headed home. My plan is to have Drunk!Titus start looking at the day 1 VCA with the data we have now.

[Titus]

ETA 1 hour.

[Almost50]

So when I asked you to discuss the scum face, I am asking you to discuss an active, usually charismatic player that might be scum.

Math does fit the profile. In fact he's the ONLY one that fits the profile in my suspects pool.

[Titus]

There doesn't have to be a total face. It's a theory. There may not be a face d1.