Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[NoPowerOverMe]

@mod:. Did you run this through the proper channels?

[BrightEyedFish]

thats an extremely stretchy reading dude

Maybe, but it needs to be addressed. It's not my call and I will accept mod's decision with no objections.

[Gamma Emerald]

If I were to not vote him despite feeling he were scum at some point due to me having brought him in/any reason associated with that, that could be considered an alliance. What I want you to compare this to is the relationship between the experienced and inexperienced players in a newbie game. I will guide him but I will not place victory in the game below assisting him.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like im assuming when Gamma said "help"

he means like explain the rules and shit.

not like I got your back and will support you to win the game regardless of your alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyway, this discussion doesn’t really do much to solve the game so let’s table it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Sounds fishy to me.

[BrightEyedFish]

If I were to not vote him despite feeling he were scum at some point due to me having brought him in/any reason associated with that, that could be considered an alliance. What I want you to compare this to is the relationship between the experienced and inexperienced players in a newbie game. I will guide him but I will not place victory in the game below assisting him.

I don't think you invited him to "cheat" or anything. It just feels strange. If both of you are scum or you are scum, then that is a definite outside influence.

[Gamma Emerald]

like im assuming when Gamma said "help"

he means like explain the rules and shit.

not like I got your back and will support you to win the game regardless of your alignment.

This is EXACTLY what I mean actually. I essentially am affording him an extra lot of patience when it comes to explaining mechanics, flips, stuff like that. I know the game is long so it’s possible he might not be able to read all of it to catch everything being discussed.

[BrightEyedFish]

like im assuming when Gamma said "help"

he means like explain the rules and shit.

not like I got your back and will support you to win the game regardless of your alignment.

This is EXACTLY what I mean actually. I essentially am affording him an extra lot of patience when it comes to explaining mechanics, flips, stuff like that. I know the game is long so it’s possible he might not be able to read all of it to catch everything being discussed.

That's not a problem as long as it's done in the game thread.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok there's like nothing fishy about inviting a friend to replace into a game that's dragging and needs a replacement...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea ofc they are not going to talk about the game privately - that's under the ongoing games rule anyway.

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok. I'll drop it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

As I mod I would never allow an active player to assist in replacement. Raised too many questions. That's just me though.

[Grendel]

Im confused... Im I in trouble for subbing into the game? :/

I missed a lot of this convo

[NoPowerOverMe]

Not you, the mod is the one being questioned.

[Grendel]

Well if the mod feel fit to kick me then i guess thats how is has to be, but i personally dont feel I did anything wrong.

I'm gonna head to bed.

[pisskop]

This is awkward but mod hasn't given me my role pm yet.

hi yea, you know when cops read you the miranda rights? There are many reasons to wait.

[pisskop]

But hi. what slot are you?

[pisskop]

@Doctor Drew

k shame.

I think drewboi is scum.

[pisskop]

Grendel (6): Bambi Jay, PookyTheMagicalBear, davesaz, TiphaineDeath, chkflip, NoPowerOverMe

oh... nvm

Idk about the walter slot. I think we could give them a day to play.

[Gamma Emerald]

As I mod I would never allow an active player to assist in replacement. Raised too many questions. That's just me though.

After this experience I definitely understand why. Certain parts of moderation should not happen behind closed doors. I think I’ve explained my motives and intentions well enough this time, is there a better way to make others aware of such things in advance so suspicion is not raised? I expect there will be times in the future I try to invite players from offsite to replace in, as the main thing inhibiting my willingness to try that, which was the gap in how each site plays, has been shown to be a minor point at worst, and a non factor at best.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Doctor Drew

k shame.

I think drewboi is scum.

Why is Drew scum? Is it just off that thing or is there more content to it?

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I’m trying to remember a time when a late arriving role PM has caused significant trouble. I vaguely remember something but it’s faint in my mind.

[pisskop]

Tbh I’m trying to remember a time when a late arriving role PM has caused significant trouble. I vaguely remember something but it’s faint in my mind.

Besides the alignment, there are role concerns as well. Different role have different optimal strategies. And the mod hasnt set you up besides.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess the biggest issue I can see is if the role has a post restriction