Death Curse

[Noraa]

We just need to kill Noraa already and stop stagnating the game, please.

you are literally just saying. Ok guys no matter what happens, the best choice is always to just follow me and do what I tell you to.

[Theta Alpine]

scroll
telling mafia who we would pass the scroll to should be secret

for the reason that pocketing and a few other common mafia strats are made less viable if we do this

[Toogeloo]

I said that Norra, me. LLD just reinforced it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You are literally tempting me to rage kill you. I ragekilled someone in my last game.
You are literally provoking me with every post. Asserting that you are superior and everyone needs to listen to you. But you did NOTHING but tunnel me. you do NOT deserve the town leader position.

Noraa it's posts like this that are not helpful and make me think you are scum who feels they were "caught for the wrong reasons".

But like, in the effort of trying not to make you have an aneurysm, I'm going to stop telling you why you are scum, and say this much.

If I have a town leader position, it's because people read me as town. Including you. There's no other pre-requisite.

If you want to prove me wrong, tell me who you think is scum that I am ignoring, shoot one of them and we'll work from there.

Give me shit to work with so if you DO flip town, it's information for us.

[Noraa]

Oh and Noraa?

I'm completely full of myself. I have to have confidence in mafia, or what is the point? I can't belabour worlds where I am wrong and hemm and haww and hesitate.

Is there a chance you could be town, Noraa? Yes. There's a chance anyone could be town right now.

Does that chance give me pause and want to let you live? No. Never. You're high enough odds of being scum that I feel like this is a positive outcome. We learn a lot either way.

So I'm begging you to stop struggling and trying to live and start considering who is scum and talking to me about your opinions on the game because you're not going to survive, so it's way more useful.

I'm not talking to you. The more I talk to you the more I want to rage kill you if I get the scroll. You keep saying that proves I'm scum. No it fucking doesn't. It just means ur an expert at tunneling.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

scroll
telling mafia who we would pass the scroll to should be secret

for the reason that pocketing and a few other common mafia strats are made less viable if we do this

For the 2nd person who we know is town, yes

not for the first person

[Lady Lambdadelta]

especially not when they are going to die

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We just need to kill Noraa already and stop stagnating the game, please.

you are literally just saying. Ok guys no matter what happens, the best choice is always to just follow me and do what I tell you to.

In this situation?
Yes.

You're not reading it incorrectly, I'm sorry it's frustrating, but that is how it is today.

[Noraa]

You are literally tempting me to rage kill you. I ragekilled someone in my last game.
You are literally provoking me with every post. Asserting that you are superior and everyone needs to listen to you. But you did NOTHING but tunnel me. you do NOT deserve the town leader position.

Noraa it's posts like this that are not helpful and make me think you are scum who feels they were "caught for the wrong reasons".

But like, in the effort of trying not to make you have an aneurysm, I'm going to stop telling you why you are scum, and say this much.

If I have a town leader position, it's because people read me as town. Including you. There's no other pre-requisite.

If you want to prove me wrong, tell me who you think is scum that I am ignoring, shoot one of them and we'll work from there.

Give me shit to work with so if you DO flip town, it's information for us.

you call me a survivalist yet now that I'm about to get the scroll, you start backing down and try being nice? what a joke.

[Toogeloo]

Can we hammer this please, before it escalates outside of the friend zone?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh and Noraa?

I'm completely full of myself. I have to have confidence in mafia, or what is the point? I can't belabour worlds where I am wrong and hemm and haww and hesitate.

Is there a chance you could be town, Noraa? Yes. There's a chance anyone could be town right now.

Does that chance give me pause and want to let you live? No. Never. You're high enough odds of being scum that I feel like this is a positive outcome. We learn a lot either way.

So I'm begging you to stop struggling and trying to live and start considering who is scum and talking to me about your opinions on the game because you're not going to survive, so it's way more useful.

I'm not talking to you. The more I talk to you the more I want to rage kill you if I get the scroll. You keep saying that proves I'm scum. No it fucking doesn't. It just means ur an expert at tunneling.

Okay, then go talk to Toog. Talk to someone about your scum reads and leave your last will. I'll stop antagonizing you.

[Noraa]

I'm sorry it's frustrating, but that is how it is today.

we went from "go cry in your grave noraa" to this?

wow and I'm the survivalist?

[MURDERCAT]

Give me shit to work with so if you DO flip town, it's information for us.

+1

[Hopkirk]

Bell will you help me with this game? I think you're town. I guess you could be scum doing fancy soft defend anticatalyst stuff people said but you feel like town and I don't care

ok isis/bell/noraa/???/???

hmmmmmm

ok mush is town
mush LLD taylor pooky are locktown

Woah, one hundred percent my reads
I'd expect soon the scum concedes

Sadly due to lacking the time
Until tomorrow I'm a mime

[Toogeloo]

You're a detriment to town's win condition this game, Noraa. You're just too stubborn to realize it. There is 0% chance you live past flip 1. It's increasingly worse that talking to you is pointless because no one else exists outside of LLD to you.

[Theta Alpine]

Give me shit to work with so if you DO flip town, it's information for us.

then give noraa the chance to do it by taking the pressure off of her and starting a wagon on someone else

if noraa is town this gives her the chance to contribute without feeling pressured to defend herself
if noraa is scum she is going to die today regardless

and it gives us the chance to get more interactions with a wagon on someone who is not already doomed

[Noraa]

Im too stubborn? that's really funny considering I'm not the one that's been hard tunneling since page 7

[Noraa]

Y'all declared me confscum by page 10. And you expect me to just have the most awesome reaction to it. I overreact and am overly defensive but put anyone else in my position and I'd sure like to see who can deal with this all of this tunneling

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry it's frustrating, but that is how it is today.

we went from "go cry in your grave noraa" to this?

wow and I'm the survivalist?

Noraa, I'll leave it at this.

If you're town and you think I am scum. If you really think I drew a red role pm, say it now and you can shoot me and I really won't care.

But don't shoot me because you're frustrated. All that will do is make me believe you are scum even harder and shoot someone on that evidence. It'll be the most liekly thing to kill 3 townies, if you are town.

So if I'm frustrating you, I get it. You don't have to talk to me. But at least talk to someone else about your reads so we have a record of them before you die and pass your scroll.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Give me shit to work with so if you DO flip town, it's information for us.

then give noraa the chance to do it by taking the pressure off of her and starting a wagon on someone else

if noraa is town this gives her the chance to contribute without feeling pressured to defend herself
if noraa is scum she is going to die today regardless

and it gives us the chance to get more interactions with a wagon on someone who is not already doomed

This is an awful idea.

No one else we wagon is gonna feel the slightest bit of pressure. Noraa has a space to talk about her reads now. Why does Noraa need to feel as if she can live to do that?

[Noraa]

But don't shoot me because you're frustrated. All that will do is make me believe you are scum even harder and shoot someone on that evidence.

if that happens, its bc you tunneled too hard and frustrated me. You are overly confident and now "worrying" about someone else being stubborn is really rich

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

noraa why dont you want the scroll?

[Toogeloo]

then give noraa the chance to do it by taking the pressure off of her and starting a wagon on someone else

if noraa is town this gives her the chance to contribute without feeling pressured to defend herself
if noraa is scum she is going to die today regardless

and it gives us the chance to get more interactions with a wagon on someone who is not already doomed

It's not going to happen. Getting a scroll is something most of are going to deal with at some point. No one likes to be first out, but someone has to be. Noraa has been posting non-stop for the last 24 hours almost, I'm certain there is things they've seen at this point to solidify some decent reads, whether it be sheep or wolves, that she could easily comment on. Instead they're being obtuse about the fact that there is no way they can survive past today, and instead just continue to give everyone the proverbial finger over the past near 30 pages.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But don't shoot me because you're frustrated. All that will do is make me believe you are scum even harder and shoot someone on that evidence.

if that happens, its bc you tunneled too hard and frustrated me. You are overly confident and now "worrying" about someone else being stubborn is really rich

Noraa, I'm aware you think I'm town, so I want to state this for the whole game, okay?

You have done nothing but state I am town all game. So if you shoot me, we are going to assume you are scum.

And if you shoot me for this reason and you are town, it is game throwing. You would be admitting to shooting someone you think is town because they annoyed you.

I want to avoid that situation if you are town. I don't think you're town, but I want to avoid it.

[Theta Alpine]

Give me shit to work with so if you DO flip town, it's information for us.

then give noraa the chance to do it by taking the pressure off of her and starting a wagon on someone else

if noraa is town this gives her the chance to contribute without feeling pressured to defend herself
if noraa is scum she is going to die today regardless

and it gives us the chance to get more interactions with a wagon on someone who is not already doomed

This is an awful idea.

No one else we wagon is gonna feel the slightest bit of pressure. Noraa has a space to talk about her reads now. Why does Noraa need to feel as if she can live to do that?

what do you mean they are not going to feel the pressure
when i say noraa is going to die today i mean she is going to be passed the scroll today regardless of if that is because she was voted it or not
anyone who is voted should absolutely feel pressured because we are going to vote with the intent of passing the scroll to them with that vote

p-edit
also i do not think that town noraa passes the scroll to someone useful in the situation where she is voted the scroll
the highest scum read will almost certainly get passed the scroll
we do not have to vote them because they are doomed
so it is better to vote someone else