Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

Why does that read scum to you? I think his last unvote on IKS at least made sense as a reaction to chk’s defense.

Also please try to use the post tags when referencing post numbers so people can click the links and go to the post quickly vs. having to navigate to it

[TiphaineDeath]

I honestly don't think the why matters. I'm not looking at the why, just the pattern. If a given pattern can be most easily explained by scum knowledge then it is usually correct to assume that explanation.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: TiphaineDeath
After what I lauded dave for posting earlier, that comment is straight up awful. Dave showed real thought to his Walter push, you have not. I feel like you’re overweighting the scumminess you say you’re seeing in Walter in order to allow you to continue pushing his slot. If I were to evaluate the points I see from you on Walterslot myself, it would probably add up to around a nullread, maybe a little bit to either direction.

[Grendel]

@TipainDeath THanks for giving me your the iso analisis of NO Power, I'll cross reference it when i read No power's iso to see if i agree with your reasonsing.

Why is TDG hard town for you?

[Grendel]

In very far into Tideath's ISO, but is a highly antagonistic tone common for Tideath to those who have played with him?

He's a bit emotionally sensitive in general, but it's outside his typical range this game.

When you say range you mean like out of his scum range?

or you mean just general behavior?

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Not sure how i feel about Gamma leaning in on his town read of me as a justification. Feels kinda white knighty

Otherwise Gamma looks ok I guess. (I've had a terribad record on reading Gamma in the past, so im disinclined to move him out of null)

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I dont really have anyhting to say about NO power, or Bright eye, questioning my/gamma's integrity beyond that it was not an enjoyable thing to be put through. I dont think their necessary scummy for it tho. Some people are just wary of that kinda thing happening in a way that transcends personal alignment.

[Grendel]

Not sure how i feel about Gamma leaning in on his town read of me as a justification*. Feels kinda white knighty

Otherwise Gamma looks ok I guess. (I've had a terribad record on reading Gamma in the past, so im disinclined to move him out of null)

*as a justification for pushing other slots

whoops

[Grendel]

Im going to skip TDG's ISO and jump right to her claim, and the context around it. Since that seems to be the most Ai thing she's done? (Correct me if im wrong)

Then I'll read Leia/Dave, and then No power if i have time left over.

[TiphaineDeath]

The most AI thing I've done is claim VT? PFahahahahah, oh god, what is this nonsense?

[Almost50]

Regarding the replacement...

I can't be arsed enough to switch accounts to make a joke that will probably result in an official warning at the least..

So, I just decided to bring in the promotion poster to prove my identity..

I sanction this replacement and absolve Gamma of any wrong doing

Reminder:

I AM THE LAW

[a2rudeboy]

Im going to skip TDG's ISO and jump right to her claim, and the context around it. Since that seems to be the most Ai thing she's done? (Correct me if im wrong)

Then I'll read Leia/Dave, and then No power if i have time left over.

Honestly no need to read NPOM. Both I and TD just went through it. It's also going to take you far longer than you want, because he spam posts, and also doesn't reference anything in quotes. He veers back and forth between wildly anti-town actions and comments, to VI-level stuff, to mostly lucid town play.

[NoPowerOverMe]

You're the one that wants to lurker lynch and policy lynch and I'm the anti-town/VI one?

[a2rudeboy]

Regarding the replacement...

I can't be arsed enough to switch accounts to make a joke that will probably result in an official warning at the least..

So, I just decided to bring in the promotion poster to prove my identity..

I sanction this replacement and absolve Gamma of any wrong doing

Reminder:

I AM THE LAW

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

Im confused... Im I in trouble for subbing into the game? :/

I missed a lot of this convo

You would be forgiven (and even commended) if you pushed a random wagon to it's fruition and it flipped red. (Just sayin')

[Almost50]

This is awkward but mod hasn't given me my role pm yet.

hi yea, you know when cops read you the miranda rights? There are many reasons to wait.

Cops never do that. They actually read you YOUR rights. "YOU have the right to remain silent", "YOU have the right to an attorney" ... etc

So,

unless your name is Miranda

these are NOT her rights.

[a2rudeboy]

NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.

[Almost50]

Im cool with everything that’s gone on. I didn’t know that Grendel was invited by Gamma but that just makes me gracious. I’m happy to have a replacement so quickly. I don’t suspect any malfeasance from either of them, I trust Gamma. And one post before I get them their pm is no skin off my back. I was just on my phone when they messaged me to replace in. Wasn’t easily able to send them the role immediately. Y’all just continue on in your merry way with the game. All is good.

Ain't ya gonna hand out some cookies. Mr Baker?

[Grendel]

Goofball seems to vote without a clear thought process. Also lack of quotes makes it hard to tell. Interesting to note while voting for Walter thae reply to someone was vote for iks. The claim stall is a bit weird. Other than that believes npom is scum. Considers to vote iks for that post on refusing to vote for npom. Neutral feeling
I am curious goofball if you believed both were scum why did you believe people who voted for other than npom deserve to be vigged?
pedit Do you mind pointing to where chkflip says that?

I got excited because NPOM was claim stalling. Everyone knows how I feel about that; claim stalls are 100% scum all the time, no exception.

At the same time, I good good feels from IKS because he claimed quickly, and his role description has some parallels with mine.

But then someone pointed out that the Developper bit was not very guitaristy, and I started to think IKS had outed the scum flavor, but I couldn't be sure.

Though I do want to hear what these parallels are since he flipped scum

He said his abilities change over time, and mine change on a probalistic basis.

these are interesting tangents but not really claims.

VOTE: DGB

OK let's do me

You guys already know I am a power role, which I laid out explicitly, not "breadcrumbed

NO RESULTS FOR YOU

You guys blow chunks

I'm gonna head to the dead thread with my buddy @kuribo and root for the scum

DGB is self-consciously paraphrasing the quote in her signature.

I don't have to claim at E-3 when I'm self-voting, SCUM

this is like such an over reaction to mid-day pressure? Was thread intentionally gearing up for a mid-day flip?

It dosnt look like it, (Beyond the folks wanting to flip my pressessessor)

I guess I could see it as guinue emotion on TDG's end, but idk why she didn't claim if she was "over" the game. If its a confirmable town PR she could just go head and claim it and eat a NK instead of eating rope. Letting herself get flipped is essensally doing scums work for them.

I guess TDG is ethier lying about being town, or ended up with a PR that is somehow not confirmable. (Or she is intentionally playing irrationally to spite the thread.) ughhhh these "what ifs".

@Goofball can you tell me more about your head space when you self voted? It at least seems you are on to bigger and better things with the Lavender vote, tell me more about lavender?

[Grendel]

NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.

So is this an agenda you take with you every game or...?

[Almost50]

OK.. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DECLARATION:

After having completed my catch up (I only skipped anything that had more than 3 lines in it )

I can safely and

confidently

declare...

That

I will NOT be unvoting Grendel

Spoiler: And I have a very good reason:

I wasn't voting Grendel to begin with

Thank you for your understanding

[Grendel]

Im confused... Im I in trouble for subbing into the game? :/

I missed a lot of this convo

You would be forgiven (and even commended) if you pushed a random wagon to it's fruition and it flipped red. (Just sayin')

God I hope that happens haha

Tell me more about your TDG read.

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were you already TRing my slot before sub in?

[Grendel]

The most AI thing I've done is claim VT? PFahahahahah, oh god, what is this nonsense?

I was talking about TheDrippingGoofball not you.

Can you tell me why you town read TDG currently?

[TiphaineDeath]

DGB town for IKS vote interaction.

[NoPowerOverMe]

NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.

Explain how having scum in the game is beneficial to town?

[Almost50]

Tell me more about your TDG read.

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were you already TRing my slot before sub in?

I assume you mean DGB? It's summed up in 3412, 3416, 3441 & 3578

And no, I didn't have a read on your slot at all. Walter wasn't exactly informative in his posts, and Assembler didn't even post. I man, you could ISO them both yourself and tell me if you could have developed a read with any degree of confidence there.

[Grendel]

Reading through Leia Im honestly having a hard time distinishing her real pushes from her jokes.

At lot of times she posts reasons for scum reading other players are really shallow thought processes.

So i have a scum lean going into Daves posts

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Yes I meant DGB. THank you for the links there.

Sorry, I missread your "Im not unvoting" joke post as, "Im not Voting", and thought it was a bombastic defense of my slot or something lol. that makes more sense now.