You're scum, bye!In post 3759, Iecerint wrote:I don't buy DGB's claim.
1. If her claim were as she says, she would have reacted differently to IKS's claim D1 (e.g., because townDGB would instantly infer that IKS was scum, for the same reason that people are now inferring that DGB's claim implies she is town due to scumIKS). This is particularly true because IIRC she was saying that IKS was scum while voting NPOM with me D1. This is why I think she is not town with the role she says she has.
2. Bambi already claimed another version of IKS's claim. Bambi's claim seems related to something that happened to multiple players N2 and is relatively verified (though it's not impossible that the action could be an omni-fruit vender). So far as I have experienced them, Baker's games are "bastard" in name only -- they're similar to ordinary Theme games on the site from the early 2010s. This is why I think the role is probably fabricated, rather than "the role that scumDGB has."
3. DGB's claim is an ideal scum fakeclaim. She can continue to fabricate it as the game goes on. Her note that abilities are "probabilistic" gives her even more flexibility in fakeclaiming as the game goes on.
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You said this has a nonzero chance of being a scum slip. How?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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You may say that if you haven't bothered reading the rest of his post.In post 3782, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
this readslist looks like it was drawn by a 2nd grader who hasn't figured out he's not supposed to eat crayons yet.In post 3776, TiphaineDeath wrote:Hard Town: Pisskop/DGB/BEF/Gamma/A50
VI: NPOM
Very unsure: CHK/Galron/Dave(Dave feels Townie AF, but leia was scum and I am conflicted)
Scum: Starbuck/Grendel/Pooky
3P: BambiParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Please. Call me DGB.In post 3820, Grendel wrote:
I was talking about TheDrippingGoofball not you.In post 3807, TiphaineDeath wrote:The most AI thing I've done is claim VT? PFahahahahah, oh god, what is this nonsense?
Can you tell me why you town read TDG currently?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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In post 3830, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Death and dripping are Town reading each other there's a surprise. Rolls eyes.
It did make me say hmmm when they all of a sudden town read each other.In post 3831, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum hates a TOWNBLOK™
But, DGB does make a great point about TD's vote coupled with NPOM making another superficial read I feel ok they probably are town.
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I honestly haven't played a game on site, or on any other site, in ten years. When I played, I signed up for too many games at once, which led to me lurking and prodging, until I just gave up completely. Most of those games I was auto-eliminated for active lurking.In post 3817, Grendel wrote:
So is this an agenda you take with you every game or...?In post 3814, a2rudeboy wrote:NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.
Now that I've come back, I actually want to play. And I want the other slots in the game, especially such a large one, to be at least semi-active as well.
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Deflection without answering, noted.In post 3822, NoPowerOverMe wrote:In post 3814, a2rudeboy wrote:NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.
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IIn post 3831, DrippingGoofball wrote:Scum hates a TOWNBLOK™feelsee that you're calling almost half of the player roaster "Scum". Can I get a list of your TRs??
P.S. I dashed out "feel" because you used the term to make it look like I was making things up, when -in fact- I was trying to be reasonable rather than overly assertive.
P.P.S. Off the top of my head, you SR NPOM, CHK, Iec, myself, one of TD/Starbuck (don't remember which), Pooky, Bambi, and possibly lav (not sure about this one, so don't give me shit if I misremember). Does this look like a reasonable proposition to you? I mean, you're not calling them "scummy", but outright "Scum". Do you think the game is Multiball??
P-edit: OK, so it's Starbuck that you SR? Or maybe I am mixing someone else's read with yours, bur only because I've seen you respond to many players with your trademark phrase "you're scum"
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Super late Post Edit: By they I mean DGB and TD if it wasn't obvious.'This might be the first game where I'm townreading Doctor Drew. Not sure if that's a good or bad sign considering he was town the previous 2 times' - Hectic
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Why would he start answering direct questions now?In post 3837, a2rudeboy wrote:
Deflection without answering, noted.In post 3822, NoPowerOverMe wrote:In post 3814, a2rudeboy wrote:NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.
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Does anyone think I'm conf!biased against DGB??
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In my book, they are scum tells.In post 3836, a2rudeboy wrote:My vote for Lavender is a combination of her lurking, beetlejuicing, prodging, and promising content without delivering (with one notable exception). Are these scum-tells? Not in themselvesParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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If you have a choice between someone you think is scum and a lurker, would you choose scum first?In post 3837, a2rudeboy wrote:
Deflection without answering, noted.In post 3822, NoPowerOverMe wrote:In post 3814, a2rudeboy wrote:NPOM- Explain to me how having a lurker remain in the game is beneficial to town. Maybe a town PR would lurk for a while to try and avoid the NK. But other than that, I can't really see much benefit.
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It's setup-spec DGB. If scum got role-pm's earlier to have a chance to talk in PT pre-day then they may either have not received the game-start PM or NPOM may have been already "in-game" as he saw it, and so wasn't looking for one like the rest of us were. It's a weak tell, and I've been trying to play off perceived scumslips less since I am often wrong on them, but it pinged me.Chaos, Panic, Disorder, my work here is done.
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