Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[Nahdia]

3*? yeah fmpov...

[fferyllt]

One wagon is all unconfirmed towns and the other is almost all (supposedly) confirmed towns. Wonder how this should make me feel.

Who of the (supposedly) conftown do you think are lying?

[Alisae]

how many scum remaining are we assuming? 2? yeah fmpov, two scum just hopped aboard that flash wagon. does make me a little iffy, though pre-emptive VCA is a grave sin.

OH MY GOD
THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS WONDERING FOR A LONG TIME FOR NO REASON
LIKE LEGIT SOMETIMES I STILL THINK THERE'S 4 SCUM INCLUDING THE TRAITOR LIKE WHAAAAAAAAAAT

[midwaybear]

Well I do share some skepticism with DS, but I think nightkills should calm this really quick.

[Cabd]

Well I do share some skepticism with DS, but I think nightkills should calm this really quick.

Try again with specifics. Which players do you think are not truthful. Why?

[Cabd]

how many scum remaining are we assuming? 2? yeah fmpov, two scum just hopped aboard that flash wagon. does make me a little iffy, though pre-emptive VCA is a grave sin.

OH MY GOD
THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS WONDERING FOR A LONG TIME FOR NO REASON
LIKE LEGIT SOMETIMES I STILL THINK THERE'S 4 SCUM INCLUDING THE TRAITOR LIKE WHAAAAAAAAAAT

I've been assuming it's 3-1-X from the get go

[fferyllt]

how many scum remaining are we assuming? 2? yeah fmpov, two scum just hopped aboard that flash wagon. does make me a little iffy, though pre-emptive VCA is a grave sin.

Who?

[Tammy]

One wagon is all unconfirmed towns and the other is almost all (supposedly) confirmed towns. Wonder how this should make me feel.

Do you have reads on either of the wagonees?

[Alisae]

how many scum remaining are we assuming? 2? yeah fmpov, two scum just hopped aboard that flash wagon. does make me a little iffy, though pre-emptive VCA is a grave sin.

OH MY GOD
THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS WONDERING FOR A LONG TIME FOR NO REASON
LIKE LEGIT SOMETIMES I STILL THINK THERE'S 4 SCUM INCLUDING THE TRAITOR LIKE WHAAAAAAAAAAT

I've been assuming it's 3-1-X from the get go

its moreso I would subconsciously try to find teams of 4

[midwaybear]

Bro, I’m just sharing the skepticism of 4-2-2 masons. Even with traitor, it’s still really powerful.

[Cabd]

Bro, I’m just sharing the skepticism of 4-2-2 masons. Even with traitor, it’s still really powerful.

No. Fuck that. You talk shit like doubting mason claims you back it up with specifics.

[midwaybear]

Why can’t town me have nothing in specific or are you just trying to convince me that this should be legit

[SirCakez]

the make up of the two main wagons is kinda troubling.

I think that it's possible some of the non-masons have better reads because they have the typical game perspective of "in/out of elim-pool based on my play". That's a channel of info that's mostly lacking in the Gamma wagon.

It's conceivable that either wagon could be entirely town-driven. But there has to be at least one scum on one of the two main wagons.

For there to be scum in the Gamma wagon either Bulge is scum or one of the conftowns is actually scum somehow
What are you suggesting?

[fferyllt]

the make up of the two main wagons is kinda troubling.

I think that it's possible some of the non-masons have better reads because they have the typical game perspective of "in/out of elim-pool based on my play". That's a channel of info that's mostly lacking in the Gamma wagon.

It's conceivable that either wagon could be entirely town-driven. But there has to be at least one scum on one of the two main wagons.

For there to be scum in the Gamma wagon either Bulge is scum or one of the conftowns is actually scum somehow
What are you suggesting?

I'm suggesting that it's within the realm of possibility that Bulge is scum.

[Nahdia]

how many scum remaining are we assuming? 2? yeah fmpov, two scum just hopped aboard that flash wagon. does make me a little iffy, though pre-emptive VCA is a grave sin.

Who?

i looked again and think i did something backwards. forget this lol.

[Tammy]

I don't particularly find self-preservation votes scummy because really who wouldn't, but I'm not sure how I feel about how easily and readily he jumped to gamma, when the last thing he said about gamma was the he was sliding to town, and then left.

[Tammy]

But I'm not sure what he should have done either even if town.

[fferyllt]

I'm going to give this another try at explaining where my head is at.

This is a situation where no conftown are on the Bulge wagon. Maybe having that additional channel of info -- how the non-masonries are reading each other explains that, or if the wagon has scum presence.

Gamma's wagon isn't going to tell us much if he flips town.

These are considerations outside my reads of both Bulge and Gamma.

I'm not suggesting this is reason to change votes. It's just an acknowledgement of the gamestate as I see it.

I'll consider moving to Nahdia if there's enough energy around that, especially if their wagon doesn't become super polarized like the composition of these two wagons.

[Gamma Emerald]

don't take this the wrong way, but what's your purpose in the thread right now? why are you here?

Its so hard to want to get out of bed dude

this is so true

especially on days where it's cold and the only warmth is inside your bedsheets, you just kind of curl up and close your eyes and hope you never wake up again.

Is it real talk hour? Because I have hours of real talk I can do rn.

[midwaybear]

Considering the circumstances, probably.

[midwaybear]

Hm looking at the posts you quoted, I'm not so sure anymore.

[Gamma Emerald]

Let me just bare my soul real quick with a song.

I have had an awful last few hours. I just had my worst fears and doubts about my living situation confirmed, and I have to figure out a viable way out that does not require prolonged suffering and submission to powers I now barely respect if at all. In some situations I would take my leave and bear no mind to any questions asked of my departure. In others I would plunge my blade into my breast in order to save my own dignity. But here and now, after spending so much time working to stay afloat? My desire to survive is stronger than ever before, and I will strike anyone who threatens it, like a wounded animal. I still have my wits about me to tell friend from foe, but my vision is blurred with blood and tears so my strikes may not hit true. But I will be damned before I let anything jeopardize my ability to live. Let me fight on one more day.

That little rant has to do with both real talk and what’s going on in the game.

[Bell]

It’s real talk time.

Unlike with bulge where I dunno what’s up. Gamma’s been super on the level. I don’t think gamma would be comfortable talking to some of the players on this list as scum in the way he’s talking to them. ESP. Alisae. Maybe i’m In his pocket, but Gamma earned that pocket.

[The Bulge]

nahdia why do you think bell isnt voting me
bell why do you think nahdia isnt voting me

uh, what kinda question is that?

is this your final answer?

you can do like bell and answer however you'd like, if you'd like

i'd like you to answer me, actually. it's a really weird question. like,

really

weird.

you were the only two unconfirmeds not voting me, I would expect some line of communication between the two of you if both town. here's your ice breaker. obviously now the situation has changed and with it the question has been dodged.

[The Bulge]

how many scum remaining are we assuming? 2? yeah fmpov, two scum just hopped aboard that flash wagon. does make me a little iffy, though pre-emptive VCA is a grave sin.

what did you look at exactly to come to this conclusion? the numbers in the first column of the vc, anywhere else?