Newbie 2037 - Game Over

[padwag]

Facebones, what do you think of rockhopper?

[Facebones]

I admit I didn't explain 79 all that well. I wanted to find out what he meant when he said that he answered to avoid being scumread. Now, I didn't ask that directly, but

I do find it slightly interesting that when I drew his attention to "the first part" he snipped that part from his original quote.

After he answers I'll explain what I'm after, but I dont think this was a 3000iq play either.

For what it's worth, I did genuinely believe you were referring the first line and when going back to re-read it's easier for everyone when people pinpoint exactly the part of the quote their reply is in relation to rather than having walls of irrelevent bullshit and having people try to guess

I have no doubt that in the future when I'm re-reading the thread, post 126 will to irk me no end

[Facebones]

I'm getting more townie feels from rockhopper currently, but it's still early days. Anything can happen

What about yourself?

[padwag]

I am also getting town from rockhopper. They do have a valid reason for lynching me, even though I don't agree with their views.

[Facebones]

Thoughts on their little chess match? Could it mean something? Could it mean nothing?

[padwag]

I think the chess match is probably just a chess match.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Padwag is right: the chess match is just a chess match.

Standard newbie game rules are that all factions/teams within a game are allowed uninterrupted talk through a PT. I can't see there being a need for super secret code within a game.

Unless i'm wrong and they're actually scum with gigantic balls.

[Rockhopper]

I think the chess match is probably just a chess match.

[Facebones]

I'm onto you...

[Facebones]

I can imagine them now, sitting back in their PT chuckling between themselves, not expecting anyone to even think about the two players in the *game* of chess actually being scum buddies
It's the perfect ploy

[ItalianoVD]

And where did that get you?

Haha, I was the runner up in that game.

The point I’m trying to make is I don’t think there is any correlation between scum taking hints from the town to coordinate their play and whether they win or lose. That’s an analysis that would have to be conducted and it’d be very intricate and would need a very large sample size to come up with a consensus. Because we don’t have those numbers then I’m not gonna just make those assumptions because it’s a possibility.

[Norfolk Boy1]

And that's fine. I don't necessarily agree with you, but it hardly matters as I don't feel like we're debating a big game changing moment that will cause the scum to be revealed.

[ItalianoVD]

I don't have a read on Billy yet, but I'll take a look at your arguments.

Okay, that’ll be good. Look forward to what you have to say about it.

But isn't it strange that he only chose to question the vote on him, and not Mini's or Billy's?
The defensive nature kinda points to the survival aspect of a scum mindset, IMO.

This part was WRT bakslash, I did have a scumread on him.

You got all that from a question mark?

Fine, but know that I realized it was an incorrect line of thought.
When padwag posted 21, I assumed he had no knowledge of RVS, in which case it would have been bold to throw out a vote to avoid unwanted consequences (- scum). I would've expected scum padwag to blatantly point to RVS (seeing this was the reason for a previous vote) as an attempt to blend in, which didn't happen. Therefore slight town...

Why would you just assume he had no knowledge of RVS? Why wouldn’t you have asked to clear it up? This makes your arguments against padwag fallacious because everything is based on assumptive reasoning. To be clear, this is not me defending padwag, this is more so poking holes in your argument and how it’s unfair to assume something without making sure it’s the right way to think. I don’t know, you’re kinda giving me question marks in my head now. And then you’re leaning towards town now, because he didn’t respond the way you thought he would?

My recent scumread on him is based off of different premises.

Okay and what are those premises?

[ItalianoVD]

BTW, does anyone want to ask me questions? You can ask me anything.

[padwag]

I do know what RVS is. Also, if backslash does flip scum then rockhopper will be a bit sus as that looked like it could have been a reconsidered bus.

[padwag]

Italiano, what do you think of minimegabyte? (If you have no opinion on them that's fine)

[Norfolk Boy1]

If right now we were minutes away from deadline and everyone was E-1 with only you left to vote (ignore the maths on this), who would you vote for?

Pedit - this is aimed at ItalanoVD

[Rockhopper]

Fine, but know that I realized it was an incorrect line of thought.
When padwag posted 21, I assumed he had no knowledge of RVS, in which case it would have been bold to throw out a vote to avoid unwanted consequences (- scum). I would've expected scum padwag to blatantly point to RVS (seeing this was the reason for a previous vote) as an attempt to blend in, which didn't happen. Therefore slight town...

Why would you just assume he had no knowledge of RVS? Why wouldn’t you have asked to clear it up? This makes your arguments against padwag fallacious because everything is based on assumptive reasoning. To be clear, this is not me defending padwag, this is more so poking holes in your argument and how it’s unfair to assume something without making sure it’s the right way to think. I don’t know, you’re kinda giving me question marks in my head now. And then you’re leaning towards town now, because he didn’t respond the way you thought he would?

That's true, it was pretty impulsive. I assumed that since he didn't just point to RVS.
I find it logical to say that town makes that post slightly more often than scum based on that.

My recent scumread on him is based off of different premises.

Okay and what are those premises?

If he did something you townread him for, why are you now scumreading him for doing the same thing?

My townread was based on how 21 was a bit unrestricted for scum.
My scumread was based on how 63 was too quick for town.

[Rockhopper]

Italiano, what do you think of minimegabyte? (If you have no opinion on them that's fine)

I'm curious too.

[Bakslash]

Thoughts on their little chess match? Could it mean something? Could it mean nothing?

If I'm gonna be honest, this seems like a scum move. It looks like Facebones is throwing out a random idea and seeing if town will think anything important of it. I know its a bit of a weak read but I just wanted to throw it out there.

[padwag]

Thoughts on their little chess match? Could it mean something? Could it mean nothing?

If I'm gonna be honest, this seems like a scum move. It looks like Facebones is throwing out a random idea and seeing if town will think anything important of it. I know its a bit of a weak read but I just wanted to throw it out there.

I think the chess match thought is just a chess match thought (although this may be worth looking into if facebones flips scum)

[ItalianoVD]

Italiano, what do you think of minimegabyte? (If you have no opinion on them that's fine)

I played with Mini twice I believe and she was townie both times. I haven’t really seen her scum game before so I wouldn’t know what to look for, but as of now I’m townreading her.

If right now we were minutes away from deadline and everyone was E-1 with only you left to vote (ignore the maths on this), who would you vote for?

Pedit - this is aimed at ItalanoVD

Billy

[ItalianoVD]

I don’t think there’s anything else I’m gonna get from the bakslash slot. You’ve been putting your thoughts down and having more interactions. What are your thoughts on padwag and Rockhopper?

UNVOTE: bakslash

[ItalianoVD]

I admit I didn't explain 79 all that well. I wanted to find out what he meant when he said that he answered to avoid being scumread. Now, I didn't ask that directly, but

I do find it slightly interesting that when I drew his attention to "the first part" he snipped that part from his original quote.

After he answers I'll explain what I'm after, but I dont think this was a 3000iq play either.

For what it's worth, I did genuinely believe you were referring the first line and when going back to re-read it's easier for everyone when people pinpoint exactly the part of the quote their reply is in relation to rather than having walls of irrelevent bullshit and having people try to guess

I have no doubt that in the future when I'm re-reading the thread, post 126 will to irk me no end

You didn’t answer.

[ItalianoVD]

BTW, unvoting doesn’t mean bakslash is townread, it just means I believe my vote can be better used elsewhere.

VOTE: Billy