Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:26 am

In post 3924, davesaz wrote:
In post 3914, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3907, davesaz wrote:I looked at to Lav games and this is very much the same. She was town in both of those. I haven't looked yet at a scum game.
Meta me please.

Wiki is up to date to assist you.
Not sure what I'd look for though. "Meta" for me is a general behavior trend which is either usual or unusual. In Lavender's case it was easy to check if she posts infrequently and has a lot of apologetic expressions and a lack of attention as both alignments. I haven't identified a behavior trend to check for you.

It wouldn't be difficult for you to see that this is me 100% on my town game.

Almost50 · Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:04 am

In post 3919, chkflip wrote:It's supposed to be the same as your password to this, so DongLover69 should work bud.

Oh!

That WORKED! Now I feel utterly dumb!

Thanks a MILLION (and yet some more)

davesaz · Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:06 am

In post 1741, davesaz wrote:
In post 1738, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 1734, davesaz wrote:Why would scum bus before a claim, especially when there was a seemingly valid counter to work with?
Possibly more importantly, what do you think about people who switched from NPOM vs. people who hadn't voted NPOM?

My thoughts: any new bussing (if any) is after claim, and probably not the first 1-2 after claim. Pre-claim bussing (if any) should be much earlier in the wagon before it got real, and people who had laid a foundation to not vote NPOM.

2nd person (from my PoE) to toss shade on my scum hunting.

noted.
I know my alignment. I also know the relative value of shallow vs. deep looks at a subject.
Shallow doesn't mean scummy, for the record. You do you, I'll do me.

@BEF reminder #1

davesaz · Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:07 am

In post 2743, davesaz wrote:I'm not bothered at all by BEF looking at my IKS vote.
I don't think being so shallow is especially towny, but I don't know if that's AI for BEF.

Maybe I do have something to look at.

davesaz · Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:13 am

In post 3437, davesaz wrote:
In post 3392, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3391, davesaz wrote:
In post 3390, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3378, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Anyway, the other thing I feel like demonstrates Walter’s towny solving drive is his attempts to analyze some of the IKS voter’s vote movements, but those posts are walls so I’ll spare the quoting of them, and if you can’t bother to find them yourself Ill just link the posts.
This was after I did the VCA that pointed to Walter and he was scrambling to dilute the water.
Would you like to refine your timeline?
My post: 1721
Walt's post: 1753
1721 was hardly what I'd call VCA.
1826 is the first thing you posted that can be called analysis.

Maybe you missed this.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:06 am

In post 3929, davesaz wrote:
In post 3437, davesaz wrote:
In post 3392, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3391, davesaz wrote:
In post 3390, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3378, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Anyway, the other thing I feel like demonstrates Walter’s towny solving drive is his attempts to analyze some of the IKS voter’s vote movements, but those posts are walls so I’ll spare the quoting of them, and if you can’t bother to find them yourself Ill just link the posts.
This was after I did the VCA that pointed to Walter and he was scrambling to dilute the water.
Would you like to refine your timeline?
My post: 1721
Walt's post: 1753
1721 was hardly what I'd call VCA.
1826 is the first thing you posted that can be called analysis.
Maybe you missed this.

I didn't miss it. My timeline works for me, sorry it doesn't work for you. But hey, I'm probably just dumb, right?

davesaz · Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:11 am

Nope you're misrepresenting a "hey there might be a bus after the claim" as VCA.
That doesn't even come close.
I think it's scummy to focus on that and only that, taking apparently nothing else that is going on into consideration.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:11 am

Looking through some of my alt accounts, I've nailed scum!dave 100% of the time.

I don't see why this game should be any different.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:14 am

In post 3931, davesaz wrote:Nope you're misrepresenting a "hey there might be a bus after the claim" as VCA.
That doesn't even come close.
I think it's scummy to focus on that and only that, taking apparently nothing else that is going on into consideration.

Thats the only thing that caught my eye from my D1 VCA.

ATM, I am not voting Grend or you if that says anything.

davesaz · Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:25 am

You really don't get the point.
What you did isn't VCA.
Calling it VCA is the problem.
Get it yet?

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:27 am

In post 3934, davesaz wrote:You really don't get the point.
What you did isn't VCA.
Calling it VCA is the problem.
Get it yet?

You love working me on semantics. And you call my arguments "superficial".

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:30 am

I get that you don't want to work with me. Maybe scum!you are working against me or perhaps you just get some weird pleasure out of it.

If town!you thinks I am scum, then vote me. If town!you thinks I am town then just stay in your lane.

davesaz · Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:58 am

In post 3935, BrightEyedFish wrote:And you call my arguments "superficial".

In post 3936, BrightEyedFish wrote:I get that you don't want to work with me.

There is nothing superficial about pointing out where your approach to an event is lacking, in particular where you think something you have done has been highly impactful to what others do in response. Case in point the Walter timeline. You're acting like your first "VCA" post had an immediate effect on Walter. Several people questioned your method, not because they were worried by it, but because it was superficial. It did not have the impact you think it had.

And you're wrong to interpret this as not wanting to work with you. If I didn't want to work with you there would be no point in engaging at all.
I place a high value on correct reads that are based on looking at a particular issue from every angle. If you are town then your reads are more valuable if I know you're doing more than looking once and being stuck in that interpretation.

What I just did with Lavender is a prime example. The primary "case" against her is that she is active lurking because she is scum. It looks more like a play style and activity profile to me, so I checked past games. If she had been engaged and focused in town games but not in scum games then it would make sense to push the active lurking angle. It turns out that her town and scum games look the same, at least for that set of behaviors. Now the next thing to do is determine whether this information results in any adjustments in the game.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:04 am

Do you generally mock people you want to work with?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:05 am

have we strung up npom yet

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:18 am

Nope, and you'll also be glad to know that everyone has ignored me when I told them you were scum

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PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:19 am

cuz its so laughably wrong

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:21 am

In post 3940, TiphaineDeath wrote:Nope, and you'll also be glad to know that everyone has ignored me when I told them you were scum .

In post 3941, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz its so laughably wrong

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:22 am

EbWOP

I wish Dave and I could shade on each other like you two do it.

davesaz · Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:40 am

In post 3938, BrightEyedFish wrote:Do you generally mock people you want to work with?

Generally speaking I'm not intending to mock people when I say they're going about something the wrong way.
Whether they feel I am is not something I generally pick up on.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:02 am

In post 3940, TiphaineDeath wrote:Nope, and you'll also be glad to know that everyone has ignored me when I told them you were scum .

I am paying attention!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:02 am

I think Dave is town.

BrightEyedFish · Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:04 am

In post 3944, davesaz wrote:
In post 3938, BrightEyedFish wrote:Do you generally mock people you want to work with?
Generally speaking I'm not intending to mock people when I say they're going about something the wrong way.
Whether they feel I am is not something I generally pick up on.

In post 3038, davesaz wrote:
In post 2966, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 2894, davesaz wrote: In other news fish is dumb or scum. I'm not betting on scum.
What is the point of this? Insecurity?
Derision.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 am

BEF... also town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:17 am

In post 3909, Grendel wrote:nearly 200 posts from sub in and NPOM is still refering to Dave as Laia in NOPM's reads. This def points agianst them being scum togather.

How is that even remotely alignment indicative? NPOM is less focused than he is scattered, it would be totally in character for him.