stop fucking misreading me. take a second. read what i wrote. did any of my posts refer to posts that came after your post? because i probably hadnt read your postIn post 1699, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you posted 1468 and i posted 1472 3 minutes later your next 6 posts avoid 1472 and you basically veer off me completely because you realize I am ready to trade my life for yours and that's not something you want despite scumreading me at 95%
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as i said at the very beginning of this mess, a push on noraa makes noraa hard to read. we should have looked elsewhere and then suddenly noraa is easy to read. now we have either a) a planned bus and all the info we get from a scum flip will be engineered by scum or b) a town flip where scum had to put in 0 effort.In post 1698, Fidget wrote:
I believe myself to be something of an expert on the Noraa reads wall now.In post 1696, shellyc wrote:fidget do you like, see the possibility of noraa town because i find it so hard
that noraa wall is pure omgus
People pushing Noraa ->
Adorable(newbtown), Fidget(scum), Flea(town), Hopkirk(soft town / null), LLD(scum but admits to not thinking clear), Murder(scum), Pooky(null), Shelly(scum), UNOwen(null)
People defending Noraa ->
Mush (town), Tayl0r(town)
She trends towards viewing her attackers unfavorably and vice versa, yes. Interestingly enough, the reads I had the most trouble understanding (Adorable, Flea) were townreads she gave out to those on her wagon. I believe she is not thinking clearly on her LLD and Murder reads regardless of alignment.
To answer your question, I do still see the possibility. I'm maybe 65% on scum. I have a terrible track record reading you and Noraa, although I have found that generally Noraa being more uncertain is +town for her. I don't think she had the chance to exhibit that this game, too many emotional distractions.- PookyTheMagicalBear
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1537 refers to 1477 so i find it unlikely you didn't read my post 5 posts above at 1472.Show"I can't even look at the game anymore.
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I’ve now read over 50+ pages of this game but everytime, I believe I’m finally caught up, there’s at least 10 more. So what I think so far is Mush, LLD. Isis and Titus for town. I really don’t know who’s scum yet. I will probably be useless until D2 or 3, so I might just sheep Mush/Titus until I get some clarify.- shellyc
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gloria cleary are you an altIn post 1703, Gloria Cleary wrote:I’ve now read over 50+ pages of this game but everytime, I believe I’m finally caught up, there’s at least 10 more. So what I think so far is Mush, LLD. Isis and Titus for town. I really don’t know who’s scum yet. I will probably be useless until D2 or 3, so I might just sheep Mush/Titus until I get some clarify.
I'll post less oneliners and more walls so people dont have trouble keeping up
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why is titus/isis town? are you doing the consensus TR thing as well
why do you think you're useless
why would you sheep titus and mush in particular and not your other TRs"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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In post 1704, shellyc wrote:
gloria cleary are you an altIn post 1703, Gloria Cleary wrote:I’ve now read over 50+ pages of this game but everytime, I believe I’m finally caught up, there’s at least 10 more. So what I think so far is Mush, LLD. Isis and Titus for town. I really don’t know who’s scum yet. I will probably be useless until D2 or 3, so I might just sheep Mush/Titus until I get some clarify.
I'll post less oneliners and more walls so people dont have trouble keeping up
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why is titus/isis town? are you doing the consensus TR thing as well
why do you think you're useless
why would you sheep titus and mush in particular and not your other TRs
I don’t need to respond to these individually because some of my answers will make others obvious. I have meta on Titus and she came into the thread with no apparent agenda which looks like town!Titus to me. She’s asking more questions than trying to push anything. Isis gets kind of weird as scum and she didn’t seem weird to me. Wrt to LLD, I’m still null on you. You’re last post was really good but some of your earlier ones leave me scratching my head. You can tr a slot and not be confident in sheeping them and I tend to have the most faith in slots that are not tunnelled unless I’m confidently mindmelding with them. Like if I have reads that contradict either/both I’ll go with my own but I’m a fan of how they’re both appoaching this game.- Gloria Cleary
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Eta: I wasn’t aware that Titus slot was a consensus tr. Mush just seems super townie to me, don’t you think so? As to why I’m useless. It’s a large and I majorly suck at them early game but I usually obvtown late game, because there’s way too many people to sort and no flips to work off of yet.In post 1705, Gloria Cleary wrote:In post 1704, shellyc wrote:
gloria cleary are you an altIn post 1703, Gloria Cleary wrote:I’ve now read over 50+ pages of this game but everytime, I believe I’m finally caught up, there’s at least 10 more. So what I think so far is Mush, LLD. Isis and Titus for town. I really don’t know who’s scum yet. I will probably be useless until D2 or 3, so I might just sheep Mush/Titus until I get some clarify.
I'll post less oneliners and more walls so people dont have trouble keeping up
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why is titus/isis town? are you doing the consensus TR thing as well
why do you think you're useless
why would you sheep titus and mush in particular and not your other TRs
I don’t need to respond to these individually because some of my answers will make others obvious. I have meta on Titus and she came into the thread with no apparent agenda which looks like town!Titus to me. She’s asking more questions than trying to push anything. Isis gets kind of weird as scum and she didn’t seem weird to me. Wrt to LLD, I’m still null on you. You’re last post was really good but some of your earlier ones leave me scratching my head. You can tr a slot and not be confident in sheeping them and I tend to have the most faith in slots that are not tunnelled unless I’m confidently mindmelding with them. Like if I have reads that contradict either/both I’ll go with my own but I’m a fan of how they’re both appoaching this game.
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Shelly, do you honestly, sincerely, hand on heart, vibe with the thoughts expressed in 1549?In post 1663, shellyc wrote: idk
this post is actually town!AI and vibing with my own thoughts
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Noraa's read list was interesting enough, but she is very capable of high effort as scum in this situation. It's a bit mean if she is town but we are in a game state where there appears to actually be an overwhelming majority that thinks she is scum so I believe the best way forward is to clarify that at the first opportunity. Going through the process of cursing two players while this is hanging over the game does not seem a very smart idea.
Adorable's spiderweb accusation against me which connected together posts from three different players was pretty earnest, which could suggest newbtown. I think it will be possible to get a more solid read there as they post more.- shellyc
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I don't reeeaaaaaally vibe with hard TR theta because im having a townlean-ish there aorn but the rest of that looks goodIn post 1708, UNOwen wrote:Shelly, do you honestly, sincerely, hand on heart, vibe with the thoughts expressed in 1549?"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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this is kinda weird that you're actually Townreading the people who are SR on youIn post 1709, UNOwen wrote:Adorable's spiderweb accusation against me which connected together posts from three different players was pretty earnest, which could suggest newbtown. I think it will be possible to get a more solid read there as they post more.
anti-noraa or something"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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Lolwat.In post 1710, shellyc wrote: I don't reeeaaaaaally vibe with hard TR theta because im having a townlean-ish there aorn but the rest of that looks good
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Bell, still scumz. Whoop whoop whoop whoop.
theta is a tone/gut read because the content is not mind-blowing in that iso"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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No talk me through 1549.In post 1714, shellyc wrote: theta is a tone/gut read because the content is not mind-blowing in that iso- Hopkirk
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In post 171, Toogeloo wrote:Vault dweller...scum?
That's pretty out there. What is it in their 4 posts that has you leaning scum?Looking back at the timings I don't like when this vote happened. Toogeloo didn't initially vote Noraa (or comment on it) after she made the posts that Toogeloo later comments she's 'caught scum' for making. The timing doesn't really gel unless he just fully skipped the posts (which is a possibility based on what else he's said I guess). Interested in hearing a bit more about when/why Noraa became definite scum for you Toogeloo, because I'm not convinced here that your were sincere voting since it's based on stuff that happens before your post 171. Side note, did you like VD here? They pinged me a little at this point.
Given you didn't push me or Zdenek around here, how much stock have you got in this?In post 102, Toogeloo wrote:When I first read my role pm, I thought it was a mod slip lol.
You put way too much faith in town. I think the opposite actually. Town are more likely to be complacent while scum are more likely to read rules so they can put IIoA into their posts and scheme without hunting.In post 60, shellyc wrote:i think town are much more likely to read the setup tbh
Vote: Pooky
Because it makes them happy. But I can get behind the Noora train. While I disagree with using the sign up thread or discord to scum hunt, it's still worth pushing.
In post 341, Toogeloo wrote:What exactly pinged your gut? It was only 4 posts at the time, I'm curious.
This feels like a weird thing to be your only interaction with Noraa on. Not sure how to explain it, but something about it feels like an odd angle to be engaging on.In post 338, Toogeloo wrote:I asked for expansion of reasoning for Vault dweller and never got it.
You made a lot of posts pushing for 'let's just finish this day and kill Noraa, it's inevitable and we should just do it', or words essentially to that effect. I'm having trouble understanding where this is coming from for you when you still want to catch up, people are saying do Noraa later etc. Also, you don't appear to really have reads at this point?In post 888, Toogeloo wrote:I think the best way to get LLD to do something different is to just be done with Noraa so we can move on with our lives.
I don't really get the mindset you're in when making this point? The second paragraph is tonally off.In post 897, Toogeloo wrote:No one's letting LLD do whatever the fuck she wants (though I personally don't care if she does whatever the fuck she wants).
You got caught saying something you probably should have not said. No one is going to let that go. It's a great place to start the game. There are no power roles in this game, so you aren't worth protecting by anyone, town or scum. Accept your fate, start working with us on who you'll pass the scroll to
and why, so that that person can start formulating a plan that works with town's will as well.
Can you specify which thing Noraa did that you didn't like? I'm fairly sure I know what you mean, but It's worth clarifying in case you're just saying it, since I don'tthinkyou've said it directly.
Again, this feels off when taken in the context of Toogeloo's limited engagement with the thread.In post 939, Toogeloo wrote:You're a detriment to town's win condition this game, Noraa. You're just too stubborn to realize it. There is 0% chance you live past flip 1. It's increasingly worse that talking to you is pointless because no one else exists outside of LLD to you.
Woah, you should be spending 'tomorrow' (now today) with your family instead of using your electronic devices. For shame *shakes fist*In post 1606, Toogeloo wrote:I'll see you all tomorrow.There's no reaching. I've become enlightened.- Hopkirk
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Ok MURDERCAT can be town. The posts have a much more consistent POV and sincere/natural thought process on Noraa and the surrounding issues when I take the ISO as a whole instead of individual posts.
Did you ever do this or nah?In post 226, MURDERCAT wrote:
I mean, I am using the wagon to sort others as well. I think it will be very useful for that.In post 219, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ok lets sort those slots and loop back to noraa later on in the day. people are wayyyy too confident for page 10. this is not a good push.
In post 1244, MURDERCAT wrote:I know I've just been going with the flow, but here's some of my hot takes. I don't understand all the tip toeing, this isn't like a normal setup where town has to stop talking once we flip someone. There's still scenarios where Noraa flips town and I'd rather have time after that first Noraa "flip" and after we have more info to come to a decision about flips 2 and 3. Also this is like the most fun setup to get miselimed in so I don't really understand why town Noraa would be so upset, but whatever. I think odds of hitting 2 scum day 1 are higher if we flip Noraa scum and get LLD confirmed early than if we try to go backdoor, and I think if we flip 2 scum today we win outright. I don't think town Noraa venges LLD out of spite. If this is town Noraa I want to know sooner rather than later.In post 953, MURDERCAT wrote:Town Noraa probably does get this frustrated but I'm not convinced scum Noraa doesn't fake it and we 100% have to flip Noraa at this point regardless. So Noraa if you actually are town please take a step back from the game and come back ready to find scum instead of just yelling at LLD.In post 1584, MURDERCAT wrote:
I'm currently at about 70% chance of Noraa scum. The problem is that Noraa is an emotional player and did have a very strong emotional reaction. But I also respect her scum game enough to believe that she would use that in her favor and she recently said that she fakes townslips in all her scum games.In post 1582, Titus wrote:This sounds like Noraa is just an angry emotional player. I'd be run up half my games with this standard. Do you not believe the case?In post 134, MURDERCAT wrote:
I'm willing to roll with Bell and Noraa being lockscum based on this just for memesIn post 123, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Bell are you coaching Noraa in the scum PT you sly dog you? :3In post 283, MURDERCAT wrote:
Noraa not taking credit for a win looks bad to meIn post 268, Noraa wrote:Theres a thing called luck. Luck played in big time that game. My partner accidentally nokilled and that ultimately lead to our victory. Without that along with another player's lurking due to rl, you really think I could've won that game?In post 762, MURDERCAT wrote:
I'm town for immediately jumping on Noraa with no remorse when she flips scum, but also because memesIn post 353, shellyc wrote:why is murder town btw, entrance doesn't really ping either wayThere's no reaching. I've become enlightened.- Hopkirk
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Atm I'm not even convinced It's Noraa scum since gamevibes feel more like 'scum coasting to not rock the boat and enjoying drama'. I'll keep y'all updated as thoughts progress.
Three of the more obv-obv townpicks is good. Not commenting on Noraa whatsoever in the entrance I kind of like tbh. I want more here but for in the five posts so far I'm not upset with this slot.In post 1703, Gloria Cleary wrote:I’ve now read over 50+ pages of this game but everytime, I believe I’m finally caught up, there’s at least 10 more. So what I think so far is Mush, LLD. Isis and Titus for town. I really don’t know who’s scum yet. I will probably be useless until D2 or 3, so I might just sheep Mush/Titus until I get some clarify.
In post 605, Lapsa wrote:Frankly speaking - this game's a garbage so far.
To an extent of people openly claiming scum and getting away with that.This slot is garbage so far. This is what I'd call a bad naked vote. Especially if Noraa flips town.
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I didn't think in that context it was a compliment. I high efforted a reads list and pookys comment came off as a ms version of "wow what a try hard"In post 1675, Bell wrote:Yeah, WIM means you want to win. Which as either town or scum is a compliment!
My last town game, I came close dying day 1 and I high efforted a huge readslist which imo helped the game, helped clear my mind, and helped save my ass.In post 1685, Fidget wrote:Noraa, why do you feel obligated to try so hard in this game?Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE- Hopkirk
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Feels like talking style, got any meta to show it isn't?In post 1542, Tayl0r Swift wrote:does anyone else feel like alpine's reads are pretty artificial?
for example he says "ever since this post i guess i scumread noraa"
a townie would say "ever since rereading i scumread noraa"
I liked the effortposting when she was going through all the game and giving her thoughts. It had a sincere tone, and I kind of liked her towards the end of my interactions with her yesterday.
Welcome Titus
Thanks for subbing in. It's an intimidating game with a lot of players and pages, short deadlines, and a massive amount of spectators. Kind of scary to play in a game with so many people watching and judging, especially when you think about who they are. I mean look at that spectator list:
PenguinPower- I can only imagine how much they're roasting us all right now. The spectator topic is probably full of stuff like 'The best way to resolve our problem with getting sign ups in the newbie queue is probably to let some of these guys sign up as newbies. What does Hopkirk even think he's doing lol.'
skitter30- Highly underappreciated player and spectator imo.
Andycyca- Too cunning to be caught signing up to spectate in the actual sign ups thread, but I still caught you. Don't feel too bad about it, I'm a highly skilled paranormal investigator
Gypyx- Incredibly cunning player. He knows how much Finland trusts me and is probably spectating the game purely for those codes. Naturally we manage to thwart those fiendish schemes of his every Saturday morning, but you've got to respect that level of dedication. In fact I'm willing to give you Sweden's as a reward for the persistence: 8765 5442 9499 1739
Cabd- What can I even say about this guy. I considered subbing out when I saw that spectate sign up. What a player. Just wow.
fferyllt- Cabd's sidekick and possible apprentice may seem non threatening at first, but don't be fooled. I feel like any day now she's going to show us all that she's taken everything Cabd's taught us as vastly improved on it. Then we'll all be sorry. We'll all see.
Syryana- I think we all remember this guy from his classic post back in the 'stop fakeclaim as town!: the case forlethalall liars'. Can you believe it's already been 1789 days 14 hours? Wow, time sure flies.
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I can barely imagine how he'd feel about Noraa if he were in this game.
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petapan- I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure who this is, and I'm fairly sure none of the other spectators are Hectic alts. Got a strong Hectic alt read on this slot.There's no reaching. I've become enlightened.- Noraa
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You think fidget is scum too?In post 1690, Bell wrote:I never see posts like the one fidget just made come from town. Ever.
Why do I have so many scum reads this game.
so if im mostly scum, I have to die. If im mostly town, I also have to die. really?In post 1691, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
i think most people have noraa as maybe town now. she needs to be flipped, but not so much that we give you second shot. if i go first im shooting a lurker slot or a scum slot other than you.In post 1687, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you made plenty of posts after I offered the trade and me going 2nd is the only way the town consensus on Noraa gets enforced.
shelly when have I ever posted a huge ginormous wall besides in town games to save my ass?In post 1693, shellyc wrote:
sometimes its kinda hard to explain tone but that tone reeks of newbtown, and the UNO/noraa logic vibes with my own logic (UNO forcedly bussing noraa)In post 1666, Fidget wrote:Well, I guess I'd have to ask you what about it strikes you as towny. Do you know?Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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capable =/= will.In post 1709, UNOwen wrote:Noraa's read list was interesting enough, but she is verycapable of high effort as scum in this situation. It's a bit mean if she is town but we are in a game state where there appears to actually be an overwhelming majority that thinks she is scum so I believe the best way forward is to clarify that at the first opportunity. Going through the process of cursing two players while this is hanging over the game does not seem a very smart idea.
Adorable's spiderweb accusation against me which connected together posts from three different players was pretty earnest, which could suggest newbtown. I think it will be possible to get a more solid read there as they post more.
I have always ALWAYS as scum claimed that I would post a huge wall. But I have NEVER actually done that. They either didnt get a wall OR they got a rip off short wall. I don't high effort as scum. I'll spam the fucking thread but I will never sit down and spend over an hour just typing up a damn readslist.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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By trolling do you mean 'scum making posts' or actual trolling trolling?In post 1554, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like how much more of this trolling are we allowing TS to do
I don't really get your problem with her in general, could you go over it a bit more?
I sure don't like Unowen's play around the Noraa wagon.In post 1558, UNOwen wrote:
Yes exactly. Noraa is not a fool, if she fears that she has been caught and is 100% going down then I believe her instinct would be to perform some sort of distancing with one of her partners. The highlighting of the Adorable post was pretty strong considering the context of Noraa getting swarmed that was going on. "Theres so many questions that I get when I see this post that I am definitely SRing you for it. I think I'd actually like to place my vote here bc I want to put some pressure on you." sounds like a very calculated statement, not naturally worded at all. Noraa later follows up with declaring she would give the scroll to Adorable too. However at no point does Noraa reach out to other players to support the Adorable vote, which I think she would if town and convinced she had identified a clearly scummy player hopping on the wagon. That she has this reaction to Adorable but is apparently not alarmed about the way I have lazily sat on her wagon (unlike both shelly and taylor) has further suggested to me that something is up.In post 1525, Theta Alpine wrote: 254 this feels like it was premeditated
i mean seriously it feels like this exchange between noraa and adorable was planned out ahead of time
why is a self-proclaimed newbie attacking adorable and effectively daring them to vote themselves
and not attacking hopkirk who had placed a blank vote
or unowen who had an rvs vote
On Adorable, she is busy and it is not clear that she has completely caught up so perhaps there will be better information later. But the vote was awkward as anything, independent of Noraa's alignment. Noraa is right that the whole "I don't understand why Noraa is defensive?" was a scummy question to ask. The implication is clear but instead of just stating a suspicion and acting on it there is a smoke screen of questioning to build up to the vote. Then immediately in 277 the facade drops, Adorable thinks Noraa is sus and declares she would give the scroll to Noraa. This looks like scum attempting to find their way onto a wagon.
In post 1623, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:This is Taylor being 95% Confident I'm Scum:
Spoiler:
After I offer her 1:1 in this post:
In post 1472, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im actually thinking
Taylor - > Pooky -> Noraa would be a pretty damn good scroll pass
it's radio silence from Taylor. She knows T - > P -> N is a disaster for her scum team and she just disengages and starts poking at someone else.
if she was actually town and 95% confident she'd be all aboard
@Pooky - town Taylor would never accept this because she's getting the first lethal and you're getting the second. If she 90% scumreads you then it's a terrible trade for her to trade her own life and a strong townread (who scum you would scroll) as opposed to giving you first or third lethal. Town her would definitely never consider this over Pooky-Taylor-X and this feels kind of obvious? Like neither alignment Taylor would consider it a good offer, and I feel it's hard to miss that it's objectively a terrible offer from her POV, and also worse than the other virtually identical offer.In post 1632, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:There is a difference between town mindset this game and scum mindset.
Town WANT to trade 1:1 for scum and blow them up to kingdom come.
Scum WANT to survive and hide until endgame.
You trying to spin this as "suicidal stupidity" is downright ludicrious.
Nah, I don't accept your locktown read on me. You're going to have to try harder before I allow you to townread me.In post 1639, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I'm not bothering to recap thoughts on the utter chaos that happened in my absence. If I'm skipping questions, get to me before 12AM CST.
I'll tell you my reads are mostly the same, except I'm willing to stuff Hopkirk into null. (I don't like the content, but the readable posts help. I'll need more time to determine my thoughts on what the content says for Hopkirk's alignment.)
I do like Titus. The aggression mixed into the curiosity is pinging me as town -- it reminds me of my high pressure pushes.
I'll also say that I think Pooky is super scummy and while I would love to save Tayl0r or doomed Noraa from the curse, Pooky is a great trade because they've been dodging deep inspection because of the town leader (who I think has been pocketed) running interference all game long. Noraa is doomed regardless, and Tayl0r's going to be hard to fit into everyone's townbloc and could create issues with town coalescence as a result, so we get game progression and easier reads for the folks who aren't getting what I'm getting from Tayl0r and Noraa.
Here's a funny little thing about Pooky: we've discussed the dangers of leashing scroll-passes, we decided that a Noraa leash was an acceptable compromise (well, not for me but I agree with the logic of the argument if I was scumreading Noraa), and then Pooky proposes a fully locked down chain of scroll-passing. I'm not sure if this is more likely to come from town who is not paying much attention to what they're doing, or more likely to be gambiting scum to retain their safe position, but I don't like it either way. (Another possibility is that it's scum playing a double layered gambit, presuming that Tayl0r has a spicier, townier target she'll take first if she does accept the scroll. See the Tayl0r vs LLD thing.)There's no reaching. I've become enlightened.- Noraa
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