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Last edited by Nero Cain on Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:55 am, edited 1 time in total.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Yeah like I don't blame anyone for not reading, but actively reading and not posting looks weird- Toogeloo
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Yeah ... that was concerning. Lapsa has posted like 2 things but replies faster than I check this thread(which is a very fast speed for the most part)Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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Hey Norraa, 5, I’ve made 5 posts and unlike Hopkirk and Shelley - the only ones other than you who have act bothered to comment on them - you clearly haven’t bothered to read them. Why is that?
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wait, what
I was rereading, just got to the end, and Lapsa ... self-votes for no reason. And there's a chance its a reply to Toogaloo.
Uh. Well.
So, uh, had a Day today, still ongoing, but I am making some time to post real quick. I already disliked Lapsa's play, but now I feel like Lapsa is possibly game-throwing town? Consider their ISO. Game is boring, blah blah.
In other EXCITING NEWS, my reread has changed a bit of my reads list.
I'm now iffier on Noraa. She came back bright and I thought she might have a chance ... then back on the defensive. Yes, other players helped put her there but she didn't even struggle to ignore them the way I would expect of her personality -- straight from an attempt at a triumphant comeback to getting down in the mud again. This shift is more significant than I make it sound -- the break in personality puts her at weakly scum for me now.
Hopkirk is heading back towards scum -- there's too many posts that aren't remotely serious, and too many posts with inconsistent seriousness. The content seems intentionally obfuscated, but what I've seen I don't really like. Zdenek is town in what world? Hmmmm. Interesting to see the Hopkirk-Pooky-Tayl0r dust-up trio too, because I have scum on both Hopkirk and Pooky. The thing that pinged me is how intense Hopkirk got, the jokes forgotten, and yet at the end Pooky's still fairly high on the town list. Like, I get it, I've done similar things -- but it smells like scum theater when you take into account that Hopkirk has jokes on full blast everywhere else.
UNEXPECTED TWIST: Liking Shelly for scum. Someone (eyeballs sort of ricocheted off of who but it stuck with me) pointed out that shelly tunnels as scum, and I thought back to Shelly's town game. Yeah, she was only in it with me for one day, okay, sure, but she had TARGET LOCKED the entire day and it was a lot softer than the aggression she's showing here. I'm making this a VERY tentative read because that game was a while ago, I suck at reading shelly, and she has always struck me as an adaptive player. It very well could be the intensity of this player list... But I can't rule it being a good read out.
Murdercat is slightly towny. I'm going to call it a gutread even though it isn't, I just forgot the points I disliked. I'll grab them in a bit.
Same with Fidget but in reverse, I don't like Fidget's slot right now but I can't remember what pinged me. I guess I could also have them mixed up, this thread is a monster.
Finally: Don't know what to think of Toogaloo other than agreeing that this game is marching at too fast a pace for me to contribute as much as I want. Wanted to announce that mostly because I'm mad I can't read that slot -- can I get someone to explain a read on them? Town or scum, don't care, I just want points to fix my brain on and reread the ISO with, it's just sort of washing over me without anything to really grab onto right now.- MURDERCAT
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My sense of panda is that he is doing exactly what is be doing as scum, hence my nervousnessIn post 1934, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:can I get someone to explain a read on them?- MURDERCAT
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I haven’t read pages of this game because there’s just too many new posts but considering that all 3 of Hopkirk, Shelley, Pooky want to kill Noraa, if you also now weakly sr Noraa, then do you think that all of these other slots are bussing her?In post 1934, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:wait, what
I was rereading, just got to the end, and Lapsa ... self-votes for no reason. And there's a chance its a reply to Toogaloo.
Uh. Well.
So, uh, had a Day today, still ongoing, but I am making some time to post real quick. I already disliked Lapsa's play, but now I feel like Lapsa is possibly game-throwing town? Consider their ISO. Game is boring, blah blah.
In other EXCITING NEWS, my reread has changed a bit of my reads list.
I'm now iffier on Noraa. She came back bright and I thought she might have a chance ... then back on the defensive. Yes, other players helped put her there but she didn't even struggle to ignore them the way I would expect of her personality -- straight from an attempt at a triumphant comeback to getting down in the mud again. This shift is more significant than I make it sound -- the break in personality puts her at weakly scum for me now.
Hopkirk is heading back towards scum -- there's too many posts that aren't remotely serious, and too many posts with inconsistent seriousness. The content seems intentionally obfuscated, but what I've seen I don't really like. Zdenek is town in what world? Hmmmm. Interesting to see the Hopkirk-Pooky-Tayl0r dust-up trio too, because I have scum on both Hopkirk and Pooky. The thing that pinged me is how intense Hopkirk got, the jokes forgotten, and yet at the end Pooky's still fairly high on the town list. Like, I get it, I've done similar things -- but it smells like scum theater when you take into account that Hopkirk has jokes on full blast everywhere else.
UNEXPECTED TWIST: Liking Shelly for scum. Someone (eyeballs sort of ricocheted off of who but it stuck with me) pointed out that shelly tunnels as scum, and I thought back to Shelly's town game. Yeah, she was only in it with me for one day, okay, sure, but she had TARGET LOCKED the entire day and it was a lot softer than the aggression she's showing here. I'm making this a VERY tentative read because that game was a while ago, I suck at reading shelly, and she has always struck me as an adaptive player. It very well could be the intensity of this player list... But I can't rule it being a good read out.
Murdercat is slightly towny. I'm going to call it a gutread even though it isn't, I just forgot the points I disliked. I'll grab them in a bit.
Same with Fidget but in reverse, I don't like Fidget's slot right now but I can't remember what pinged me. I guess I could also have them mixed up, this thread is a monster.
Finally: Don't know what to think of Toogaloo other than agreeing that this game is marching at too fast a pace for me to contribute as much as I want. Wanted to announce that mostly because I'm mad I can't read that slot -- can I get someone to explain a read on them? Town or scum, don't care, I just want points to fix my brain on and reread the ISO with, it's just sort of washing over me without anything to really grab onto right now.- Toogeloo
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P.edit. forgot to include Zdenek in this. Yeah don’t really get the Hopkirk tr on that slot at all.In post 1937, Gloria Cleary wrote:
I haven’t read pages of this game because there’s just too many new posts but considering that all 3 of Hopkirk, Shelley, Pooky want to kill Noraa, if you also now weakly sr Noraa, then do you think that all of these other slots are bussing her?In post 1934, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:wait, what
I was rereading, just got to the end, and Lapsa ... self-votes for no reason. And there's a chance its a reply to Toogaloo.
Uh. Well.
So, uh, had a Day today, still ongoing, but I am making some time to post real quick. I already disliked Lapsa's play, but now I feel like Lapsa is possibly game-throwing town? Consider their ISO. Game is boring, blah blah.
In other EXCITING NEWS, my reread has changed a bit of my reads list.
I'm now iffier on Noraa. She came back bright and I thought she might have a chance ... then back on the defensive. Yes, other players helped put her there but she didn't even struggle to ignore them the way I would expect of her personality -- straight from an attempt at a triumphant comeback to getting down in the mud again. This shift is more significant than I make it sound -- the break in personality puts her at weakly scum for me now.
Hopkirk is heading back towards scum -- there's too many posts that aren't remotely serious, and too many posts with inconsistent seriousness. The content seems intentionally obfuscated, but what I've seen I don't really like. Zdenek is town in what world? Hmmmm. Interesting to see the Hopkirk-Pooky-Tayl0r dust-up trio too, because I have scum on both Hopkirk and Pooky. The thing that pinged me is how intense Hopkirk got, the jokes forgotten, and yet at the end Pooky's still fairly high on the town list. Like, I get it, I've done similar things -- but it smells like scum theater when you take into account that Hopkirk has jokes on full blast everywhere else.
UNEXPECTED TWIST: Liking Shelly for scum. Someone (eyeballs sort of ricocheted off of who but it stuck with me) pointed out that shelly tunnels as scum, and I thought back to Shelly's town game. Yeah, she was only in it with me for one day, okay, sure, but she had TARGET LOCKED the entire day and it was a lot softer than the aggression she's showing here. I'm making this a VERY tentative read because that game was a while ago, I suck at reading shelly, and she has always struck me as an adaptive player. It very well could be the intensity of this player list... But I can't rule it being a good read out.
Murdercat is slightly towny. I'm going to call it a gutread even though it isn't, I just forgot the points I disliked. I'll grab them in a bit.
Same with Fidget but in reverse, I don't like Fidget's slot right now but I can't remember what pinged me. I guess I could also have them mixed up, this thread is a monster.
Finally: Don't know what to think of Toogaloo other than agreeing that this game is marching at too fast a pace for me to contribute as much as I want. Wanted to announce that mostly because I'm mad I can't read that slot -- can I get someone to explain a read on them? Town or scum, don't care, I just want points to fix my brain on and reread the ISO with, it's just sort of washing over me without anything to really grab onto right now.- MURDERCAT
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Quite honestly, I'm not going to bother to do that until I have a scroll, you are a major target, or we are both in endgame. But I will keep that in mind.- Adorable
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Really really dislike this post.In post 1683, Zdenek wrote:Mushagana makes a lot of excuses. Is that par for the course with her? If it’s not, we should curse her for it.
Vault replacement.In post 1707, Zdenek wrote:Who is Titus?
Just ftr, Mush, LLD, Titus and Vax are all town and no one who is town should be sr any of them.- MURDERCAT
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This is literally gonna be a 600 page game huh- Gloria Cleary
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Another icky Z post.In post 753, Zdenek wrote:
Not fencesitting. I think you're failing to make me think your town since there are red letters in your roll pm.In post 688, Bell wrote:Zdenek: I genuinely don’t know what you want me to say from that post. It just looks like you’re fence sitting.- Gloria Cleary
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Why the self-vote? No idea what to make of this slot. Absolutely no meaningful content whatsoever.
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I believe this is standard lapsa play IIRC from long ago- Gloria Cleary
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So it’s entirely NAI then?In post 1947, MURDERCAT wrote:I believe this is standard lapsa play IIRC from long ago- MUSHSHAGANA
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Gloria:
I think Noraa stuck her foot in it so deeply there's no hope of saving her. That's actually true regardless of alignment at this point. But you should also take note of how eager they are to redirect the curse to other targets, with the possible exception of Shelly. Pooky offering a trade for Noraa and Tayl0r could be a way to take out someone else (which, admittedly, Hopkirk did bring up) and get Noraa a second lease on life, for instance.
In more detail: Hopkirk opens the possibility of a different target from Noraa for the third place without pushing for it, Pooky pushes back on the idea but treats it like a reasonable argument. If you treat those slots as scum then there's a picture being painted of trying to create room to unbus Noraa without looking like that's what they're doing and without losing towncred by jumping off wagon when Noraa flips red.
I think Shelly's treating this more like a townie of her caliber and style would (probing at others but staying committed to Noraa), which is another reason my scumread is so, so very weak on her... it's based on loose, possibly outdated meta that someone else mentioned, by no means a slam-dunk. I just have no way to grasp her play at the best of times otherwise and this keeps me from feeling powerless.
As I've said before: the above Pooky-Hopkirk story is not the most likely narrative, but it's a possible one and the feeling I get is Unwholesome enough over there to make me say "sure, let's go with this". There are other possibilities that lend themselves to a scum interpretation too, and the key here for me is Hopkirk dropping the jokes: this is stuff meant for an /audience/, not for a /target/. - MUSHSHAGANA
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