Death Curse

[Vaxkiller]

I saw on Noraa's recent reads list she put me as newbtown and I find this strange she still leaves her vote on me.

@Theta You never responded to #1658 and your theory looks really weird. shelly said on #347 Noraa hates bussing.

I forgot about that
UNVOTE:

So when did you change your mind?

[Toogeloo]

My sense of panda is that

he is doing exactly what is be doing as scum,

hence my nervousness

My concern here is the "exactly" point.

[MURDERCAT]

My original post has a typo, these are things I noticed you do that I would have done as scum

[Gloria Cleary]

I'm willing to eat my hat

go eat your hat

If someone like FL had made this post, I’d completely dismiss it but it sounds super confident to me.

I’m going to call it, I don’t think Noraa’s scum here.

[Gloria Cleary]

I'm willing to eat my hat

go eat your hat

If someone like FL had made this post, I’d completely dismiss it but it sounds super confident to me.

I’m going to call it, I don’t think Noraa’s scum here.

And if I’m right, scum is likely to be found in the slots eagerly pushing her.

This is particularly why Tayl0r and Noraa should never eat scrolls on the same day because I agree with Titus that she’s very likely town here but I can’t imagine scum!Tayl0r going out on a limb for town!Noraa, so if Noraa flips town, Tayl0r is almost certainly town as well.

[Noraa]

it should take you like 2 minutes max

102 doesn't stand out to me on it's own, but there is maybe something to be said about it being inconsistent with the eventual 315 (as if panda should be giving you more slack based on the logic in 102). I agree with the stance in 897 and the other post about how we should just progress the game by flipping you so I don't really see anything off there. I guess I could see a "you are town" tone to it, but I've done the same thing because it isn't worth interacting with you if you are scum. So, given we are flipping you, it's better to treat you as conf town. I don't know if panda has that same logic, but you could see the same thing from my posts. So yeah I mean I have some feelings about the slot, but I don't think it is anything strong.

The problem is that I can understand your logic more because it can much MUCH later in the day. Toogeloo's came day 1 of day 1 like first 200 posts :/

This is a very believable slip but with a player who admits to faking slips in every scumgame, how do you reconcile that?

I mean, I purposefully faked slips in my first two town games because at the time I was encouraged to use my newb card as hard as possible so I commented that I *had* faked townslips in all my scum games(this is very clearly past tense)

Now that I'm over using the noob card(I legit cannot use it anymore cuz it just don't make sense with my 6? finished games), its really just my memory failing me or me not reading OPs.

Okay, I don’t really understand this, Why would you even fake slips as town? Not saying I don’t believe you but why? Did you think that was the only way to prevent you from being misexecuted? Because this reads to me like you intentionally chose to play scummy as town.

that was a typo, rip.
I meant to say scum games not town games. I've rolled scum an awful lot. My first 4 games were 3 scum and 1 town. I was encouraged in my first scum game to use my newb card HARD so that's exactly what I did in my first three scum games.

[Toogeloo]

My original post has a typo, these are things I noticed you do that I would have done as scum

So... I do town read you, and that hasn't changed, but take this the right way please.

You know I'm not you, right?

[Noraa]

I saw on Noraa's recent reads list she put me as newbtown and I find this strange she still leaves her vote on me.

@Theta You never responded to #1658 and your theory looks really weird. shelly said on #347 Noraa hates bussing.

I forgot about that
UNVOTE:

So when did you change your mind?

the long reads list. yesterday night to be exact

[MURDERCAT]

My original post has a typo, these are things I noticed you do that I would have done as scum

So... I do town read you, and that hasn't changed, but take this the right way please.

You know I'm not you, right?

I mean I'm not trying to pass you a scroll right now

[Noraa]

because I agree with Titus that she’s very likely town here but I can’t imagine scum!Tayl0r going out on a limb for town!Noraa,

This part ... doesn't make much sense to me @_@

[Toogeloo]

I'm not going to be around until Monday, and Deadline is looming.

Someone has 10 minutes to tell me where my vote is best served (not LLD, Pooky, or MC). Otherwise it's going back on Noraa until Monday.

[Noraa]

Fidget is my personal strongest SR aorn

[shellyc]

thread exploded again

fidget why are you sheeping bells metaonly case on me

[shellyc]

Fidget is my personal strongest SR aorn

Fidget is my personal fourth-strongest TR aorn

[Noraa]

Shelly why are you agreeing with your biggest SRs reads rn?

[Gloria Cleary]

because I agree with Titus that she’s very likely town here but I can’t imagine scum!Tayl0r going out on a limb for town!Noraa,

This part ... doesn't make much sense to me @_@

Sorry, if I wasn’t clear. It makes absolutely no sense to me why scum!Tayl0r would try to save town!you. Better?

[Noraa]

ye

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Noraa

See you all Monday.

[Gloria Cleary]

it should take you like 2 minutes max

102 doesn't stand out to me on it's own, but there is maybe something to be said about it being inconsistent with the eventual 315 (as if panda should be giving you more slack based on the logic in 102). I agree with the stance in 897 and the other post about how we should just progress the game by flipping you so I don't really see anything off there. I guess I could see a "you are town" tone to it, but I've done the same thing because it isn't worth interacting with you if you are scum. So, given we are flipping you, it's better to treat you as conf town. I don't know if panda has that same logic, but you could see the same thing from my posts. So yeah I mean I have some feelings about the slot, but I don't think it is anything strong.

The problem is that I can understand your logic more because it can much MUCH later in the day. Toogeloo's came day 1 of day 1 like first 200 posts :/

This is a very believable slip but with a player who admits to faking slips in every scumgame, how do you reconcile that?

I mean, I purposefully faked slips in my first two town games because at the time I was encouraged to use my newb card as hard as possible so I commented that I *had* faked townslips in all my scum games(this is very clearly past tense)

Now that I'm over using the noob card(I legit cannot use it anymore cuz it just don't make sense with my 6? finished games), its really just my memory failing me or me not reading OPs.

Okay, I don’t really understand this, Why would you even fake slips as town? Not saying I don’t believe you but why? Did you think that was the only way to prevent you from being misexecuted? Because this reads to me like you intentionally chose to play scummy as town.

that was a typo, rip.
I meant to say scum games not town games. I've rolled scum an awful lot. My first 4 games were 3 scum and 1 town. I was encouraged in my first scum game to use my newb card HARD so that's exactly what I did in my first three scum games.

That makes a lot more sense. Well, assuming you’re town here, that meta is obviously coming back to bite you now.

[Noraa]

that meta is obviously coming back to bite you now.

yeah but I mean using something I said in my literal 4th game on site(I joined all my first four around the exact same time) is dirty and low. Its basically the equivalent of my first game cuz I started them all at around the same time.

[shellyc]

Shelly why are you agreeing with your biggest SRs reads rn?

you're obviously my biggest SR, SR =! TR

re: me never tunnelling as town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84523 - here's a game where I tunnelled scum for the whole of my D1 and got misexe'd because of that

[shellyc]

I’m going to call it, I don’t think Noraa’s scum here.

who's scum

or are you the type of person that likes to TR and solve through poe

[Noraa]

Speaking of which, gloria is your TR on me conditional or anything?
Also is it 100% meta based?
I'm in an interesting position rn where here is my thought process:

generally I hate when people give me free town passes when I am town but rn I'm getting heavily SRed and honestly like honestly speaking, I am desperate for someone to correctly read me. I am desperate.

I always am paranoid as town about getting pocketed but rn I seriously do not know what to think bc I constantly am feeling like in a way, I have no choice but to assume the people TRing me aren't scum TMI-ing because I am so desperate for support that I cannot see and do not wish to see a world where I'm just getting absolutely manipulated by scum. I hate that my thought process is this self centered and survivalistic but I feel extremely trapped where I dont feel safe with the people TRing me but I also dont feel safe with the people SRing me. I feel like wherever I go, I'm vulnerable and I'm scared that I am making the wrong choice.

Even when I am universally TRed, I can end up going 100% the wrong direction. Not to mention rn where I have a really hard time determining where I should be heading and I just feel like anyone that reaches out a hand to help me is just gonna get me paranoid and they'd have to do it in an extremely slick way for me to not literally go insane overthinking. It's at a point in the game where I literally wouldn't even be surprised if almost all of my TRs flipped green. I dont know how to describe how paranoid I have been this game but I am seriously so fucking paranoid.

someone give me advice please but be warned that its entirely possible that I get paranoid and start SRing and I'll apologize post game if that happens and you are town. If you are scum, u deserved it.

[Noraa]

*if all of my TRs flipped red

[MURDERCAT]

You are mostly posting self meta wifom. Why don't you instead question people? You have some strong town reads who tr you, why are you not engaging them? Like, regardless of your alignment I think you should consider how your actions led to you getting more SRed.