Death Curse

[Gloria Cleary]

I don't agree that I was throwing shade at him. I was genuinely curious. I know that hopkirk generally knows what towncred is and how to get it and his switch in posting style is designed to get it.

....@Pooky confession: I don't think I can read taylor. But she seems to be try harding which is new and exciting to me.

tryhard taylor = scum-taylor

town taylor is a lurker who posts shitty dog pictures

Taylor playing awful indicates T!Scum more than T!town

You are pretty much contradicting yourselves with these posts.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

give me your strongest point for Noraa-town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You are pretty much contradicting yourselves with these posts.

Nope

[Gloria Cleary]

give me your strongest point for Noraa-town

I already did. She doesn’t make detailed nuanced readslists as scum unless you’re now going to tell me that she switched up her scumgame.

Also her emotional range is greater here but the first point is reason enough. Nothing is more difficult for scum - especially newbie scum to fake - then those kinds of readslists and unlike your non-existent metacase on Tayl0r, there actually is REAL one on Noraa.

[Gloria Cleary]

You are pretty much contradicting yourselves with these posts.

Nope

Tayl0r can’t be both tryharding scum and playing awful scum, so which one is she here?

[Gloria Cleary]

VOTE: Pooky

Sorry but I think you’re a scum teddy,

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I already did. She doesn’t make detailed nuanced readslists as scum unless you’re now going to tell me that she switched up her scumgame.

Also her emotional range is greater here but the first point is reason enough. Nothing is more difficult for scum - especially newbie scum to fake - then those kinds of readslists and unlike your non-existent metacase on Tayl0r, there actually is REAL one on Noraa.

Do you think Noraa is unwilling to put in the effort to avoid a D1 elim? She cares enough about mafia to play 9 games at once and posts 80+ times a day. She's clearly intelligent and willing to learn. If she's scum I'm sure she has people in the scum team willing to coach her.

She's clearly very high WIM. Why would this suggest she would be unwilling to put the effort into it to play her heart out if she's scum here?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Tayl0r can’t be both tryharding scum and playing awful scum, so which one is she here?

I have read more games of taylor and played more with taylor than you have.

Playing awful and lurking is not equivalent.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Pooky

Sorry but I think you’re a scum teddy,

ain't the only thing you're wrong about

[Gloria Cleary]

I already did. She doesn’t make detailed nuanced readslists as scum unless you’re now going to tell me that she switched up her scumgame.

Also her emotional range is greater here but the first point is reason enough. Nothing is more difficult for scum - especially newbie scum to fake - then those kinds of readslists and unlike your non-existent metacase on Tayl0r, there actually is REAL one on Noraa.

Do you think Noraa is unwilling to put in the effort to avoid a D1 elim? She cares enough about mafia to play 9 games at once and posts 80+ times a day. She's clearly intelligent and willing to learn. If she's scum I'm sure she has people in the scum team willing to coach her.

She's clearly very high WIM. Why would this suggest she would be unwilling to put the effort into it to play her heart out if she's scum here?

Why aren’t you addressing my point about the nuanced detailed readslists - something she didn’t do in ANY of the scumgames MC linked?

How does that not even give you even slight pause?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why aren’t you addressing my point about the nuanced detailed readslists - something she didn’t do in ANY of the scumgames MC linked?

How does that not even give you even slight pause?

because it's not a very strong point.

Scum can have nuance in their reads lists too.

Her actions in reaction to the initial wagon are much more damning.

[Gloria Cleary]

Tayl0r can’t be both tryharding scum and playing awful scum, so which one is she here?

I have read more games of taylor and played more with taylor than you have.

Playing awful and lurking is not equivalent

.

You are pretty much contradicting yourselves with these posts.

Nope

Tayl0r can’t be both tryharding scum and playing awful scum, so which one is she here?

I never said “lurking”, I said “tryharding”.

[Gloria Cleary]

Tayl0r can’t be both tryharding scum and playing awful scum, so which one is she here?

I have read more games of taylor and played more with taylor than you have.

Playing awful and lurking is not equivalent

.

You are pretty much contradicting yourselves with these posts.

Nope

Tayl0r can’t be both tryharding scum and playing awful scum, so which one is she here?

I never said “lurking”, I said “tryharding”.

You have also never played with scum!her.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why can't someone who is trying hard also be playing awful? Trying hard does not equal good play.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You have also never played with scum!her.

are you just trying to bait me at this point? :3

[Gloria Cleary]

I already did. She doesn’t make detailed nuanced readslists as scum unless you’re now going to tell me that she switched up her scumgame.

Also her emotional range is greater here but the first point is reason enough. Nothing is more difficult for scum - especially newbie scum to fake - then those kinds of readslists and unlike your non-existent metacase on Tayl0r, there actually is REAL one on Noraa.

Do you think Noraa is unwilling to put in the effort to avoid a D1 elim? She cares enough about mafia to play 9 games at once and posts 80+ times a day. She's clearly intelligent and willing to learn. If she's scum I'm sure she has people in the scum team willing to coach her.

She's clearly very high WIM. Why would this suggest she would be unwilling to put the effort into it to play her heart out if she's scum here?

Why aren’t you addressing my point about the nuanced detailed readslists - something she didn’t do in ANY of the scumgames MC linked?

How does that not even give you even slight pause?

Why aren’t you addressing my point about the nuanced detailed readslists - something she didn’t do in ANY of the scumgames MC linked?

How does that not even give you even slight pause?

because it's not a very strong point.

Scum can have nuance in their reads lists too.

Her actions in reaction to the initial wagon are much more damning.

The point is that she didn’t do that in any of her scumgames and it is an extremely valid point. Making detailed nuanced readslists is the most difficult thing for scum to do, especially newbscum. You’re argument is soley based on having a bad reaction to her wagon? Are you going to seriously argue that town never does that?

In one of my early games, I practically freaked out over two non-serious RvS votes on me in a span of under two hours. It’s almost a miracle I wasn’t misexecuted for that.

[Gloria Cleary]

why can't someone who is trying hard also be playing awful? Trying hard does not equal good play.

You have also never played with scum!her.

are you just trying to bait me at this point? :3

Because you’re making no sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the wagon on noraa is not just based off her terrible reaction

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Because you’re making no sense.

I'm going to stop responding to this line of questioning because you've clearly not read nearly as many taylor games as I have :3

[Hopkirk]

(phoneposting so only posting adjustments to the nominal thread, not workings)

Yeah, I don't want to lethal noraa at this point.
Pooky/Taylor I read as TvT.

(Unowen/Fidget/Toogeloo/Bell) - anyone want to make a wagon while we have time?

[Gloria Cleary]

the wagon on noraa is not just based off her terrible reaction

Why aren’t you addressing any of my points and why aren’t you even questioning your read on her.

So tell me what makes Noraa scum here? I think that making several detailed nuanced readslists - something she has never done as scum plus the very clear greater emotional range should be more than enough to make you question that read but instead you just keep double downing it.

Yes, I know you already mentioned the fake townslip thing but why couldn’t she also have done that as town?

[Gloria Cleary]

Because you’re making no sense.

I'm going to stop responding to this line of questioning because you've clearly not read nearly as many taylor games as I have :3

2 are completed towngames and the others are ongoing, but so no flips. That’s why I say you’re not making sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I did address your main point.

I already said what makes noraa scum.

If she faked a townslip as town she should've just come clean and admitted it instead of continuing with her deception.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

2 are completed towngames and the others are ongoing, but so no flips. That’s why I say you’re not making sense.

just stop talking to me about this if you can't take the time to look up things

[Gloria Cleary]

(phoneposting so only posting adjustments to the nominal thread, not workings)

Yeah, I don't want to lethal noraa at this point.
Pooky/Taylor I read as TvT.

(Unowen/Fidget/Toogeloo/Bell) - anyone want to make a wagon while we have time?

Really don’t want to hand Noraa the scroll like ever.

They’ve given us everything we need to read them correctly if we still can’t see that they’re town this game than this town sucks.

If you no longer want to kill Noraa then don’t you think these posts point to Bell town?