mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Morning Mage]

go away BM

stop being so defensive then

[Morning Mage]

titus, myself and Mastina are a faction that have an alt wincon and we leave the game once we achieve it.

do you have to leave the game automatically?

[Morning Mage]

you think that the public cop ability is hunting a protown faction?

no, I think it's something that the scumteam is forced to do.

????

the scumteam is being forced to be cop checked?

yeah that could be right.

[Morning Mage]

both Math and S_S have been trying to argue that the third faction, king didi's army isn't scum but that's exactly why they are scum. :/

I certainly haven't been arguing that. I don't think Math has either.

if the army was 3p, they should have claimed already. safe to assume they are scum i think.

[NorwegianboyEE]

King's Army not being scum is ENEMY PROPAGANDA.
High pre-occupation with 3P's is ENEMY PROPAGANDA.

Spoiler:

[Morning Mage]

I gave him the ability so if he hits scum it counts for us.

our wincon is concurrent with the town wincon. Town has to achieve its wincon for our wincon to be possible. Since there's no pint in holding it back, one of the things we must acomplish is to be on EVERY scum lynch.

[Morning Mage]

there is a50 and confirmed town norway saying that we are town do you not believe them? if you are town you should leave it alone and stop fishing.

man please stop this, it doesnt help

[Morning Mage]

how can you think didi's army is scum and be so curious about our wincon?

I think you’re just fanning the flames the more you bring up this topic.
This achieves nothing.

yes

S_S isn't scumhunting and focusing on mech is a good way to get townpoints

girl knows whats up

Girl knows how to suck up to Nero.

He literally said that like a page or two or something close.

Girl needs to show me original thought

sassy

[Morning Mage]

technically yes but why lie about it?

Your wincon could be any number of things. Look at MBOS 5 for the utterly ridiculous third party team it contained. I would put pretty much nothing past schadd here.

In the infinite space of wincons you could have, most of them include things that you wouldn't want town to know about-- for instance, maybe you need the game to last a certain number of days. Or you need a certain number of town-aligned players to be executed. Or you need to give out power roles and have them used in a certain way. Or you need to outlive the other third party group. Or you need to neighborize half of the living players.

I don't know. But all of these are things you would be motivated to lie about, because otherwise town would realize that you are not acting in their best interests and stop listening to you.

am i allowed to put this in our PT? haha very interesting, it does seem there is a range of possibilities here.

[Morning Mage]

Did you all realize that Nero’s faction might have a different wincon??? I don’t know I never considered this angle!! I guess we will have to run all information through SS now, since he is good at setup spec. Im glad I realized this and saved the game!!!

is this sarcastic? actually seems like a good idea. maybe neighbourise SS.

[Morning Mage]

Did you all realize that Nero’s faction might have a different wincon??? I don’t know I never considered this angle!! I guess we will have to run all information through SS now, since he is good at setup spec. Im glad I realized this and saved the game!!!

Have you been discussing what you think their wincon might be in your PT? It might be better to have that discussion in here, if it doesn't hinge on secret info.

we dont have a fking scooby!

You know, the mason faction could theoretically just have said they have no second wincon. And people might buy it, it doesn’t even appear with their flip that they have another wincon.
So are we going to be suspicious because of honesty now?

counterpoint: it's an MBOS game, which according to SS always has weird mech 3ps. so claiming a bog standard 3p, especially as the game already has one wouldn't have looked great.

[Morning Mage]

You know, the mason faction could theoretically just have said they have no second wincon. And people might buy it, it doesn’t even appear with their flip that they have another wincon.
So are we going to be suspicious because of honesty now?

Woah there Norway, I know you may THINK you know what you’re doing, but maybe we should let the people with less information than you decide? After all we CAN discuss non-secret things outside of PT now, in case you didn’t get the memo!

are you having a breakdown?

There isn’t a scum in the hoods either, Gamma seemed too unaware about which players was 3P. Meaning there likely isn’t any scum in any of the hoods. Hence why we should focus on not town players outside the hoods.

I'm fine with that, on the condition that the next time mastina says someone is confirmed scum, we ignore her.

DEAL!

Please for the love of fuck stop calling any of the 3P town or masons. They are not remotely. They’ve even admitted as much.

As soon as they greentext, they leave the game.

We cannot count on them to have our interests in mind.

please read the game dude. we are just masons.

[Bell]

@shellyc I am looking for the answer to this since you’re caught up

Chemist DDL pete S_S TGP

this is like a PoE basically
chemist pred was complaining hydras vs scumhunting, and chemist has not even tried to further the game at all
DDL is playing like large 229 (scum!them)
pete is just being really bland and lacking any proactiveness at all
S_S isn't scumhunting and focusing on mech is a good way to get townpoints
TGP play is really consensus-y overall

I roughly speaking agree with this post. IMO, a least 2 scum in that list.

[shellyc]

For reasons I will not discuss I am retracting my SR on Bell.

[Bell]

I thought you already retracted it?

[shellyc]

If it doesn’t then we obviously have a problem, and the 3P’s will probably be given the side eye if they are still alive, but for now when given the choice between "obviously evil faction" and "town-siding group" i think it’s pretty freaking obvious where we should be putting our main focus.

That’s the thing. Talking Nero/Titus/Shelly(? I’m on mobile so I can’t verify, but I’m not 100%), Nero is 100% acting antitown here with zero consistency and coherency in his posts, Titus is a known manipulator who loves to to control the narrative, and then the rest is whatever.

We

can’t

take this faction as “pro-town” because we have

literally zero real evidence to suggest that they are

I am not 3p I AM TOWN

[shellyc]

DS probs in the scumpool as well due to Poe + I dislike the shading and discrediting

[Bell]

I very slightly read DS as town.

[Bell]

It's a close thing tho.

[jjh927]

I haven't fully reread yet but my skims without meaningful chronology are leading me to conclusion that something very fucky is going on with this setup

[jjh927]

However, VOTE: A50 is probably the correct call here?

[jjh927]

Do we know where the public results shit is coming from because I think it's possibly scum driven?

[jjh927]

Real setup spec shit is that this game is clearly all playing around with alignments and shit, which is kinda memed by the sample role PM in post 0. I remember seeing that at the start of the game and thinking it would be a challenge to design a game that could be usable in, let alone useful. But here we are.

I'd suggest that scum might have a scum that has a wincon aligned with king doris donatello's army, but is not a member of king doris donatello's army. Like, maybe king doris donatello. I bet he's not a member of his own army.

[jjh927]

Of the funky little trio I'm in, I'm a little confused by Pete suggesting nothing indicates the army is scum when Gamma literally claimed scum

[jjh927]

More developed opinions will come later when I've read the game through chronologically but for now I'm coming to the not at all controversial conclusion that ddl is scum there