Death Curse

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am still asking for non Taylor reads. You're proving my point here.

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

read the game titus

[shellyc]

I am pretty willing to believe you are town right now because Noraa/Adorable solve is what some people are suggesting and this is really fishy because I am the most highly SRed and you are pretty clearly busy and no offense but you are definitely considered LHF. LHF=low hanging fruit or easy limbait.

this is a really fake trajectory
sometimes the consensus is right
granted I disagree with adora/noraa

[Noraa]

I went and found the post. It took me legit like three hours bc I didnt ISO ... I just read the entire dang thread

Spoiler:

This post was written Friday night. I didn't check the thread until after shelly was hammered and didn't read up until my full reread on the game that night.

Rereading the entire thread here are my thoughts:

Datisi putting pressure on me over me saying he needed to justify his vote if it wasn't a rvs vote is strange. It's very strange bc in general votes need to be justified and putting pressure on a newb and making them feel like they weren't supposed to ask is just not rubbing the right way. Questioning my use of the terms antitown and scummy was definitely strange as well. Datisi's whole "let Bm look like the one tunneling while adding some pressure on Noraa "was a really really strange approach that doesn't strike me as towny ngl.


Bm being condescending and provocative doesn't seem to be AI. I meta dived or technically I literally read like the tiniest bit of his first game on site back in 2007 and people called him condescending and provocative. I think this may just be personality/playstyle so as much as I'm still a bit salty, I will try to be open minded about this when rereading.

Bob came in and joined in putting pressure on me. So alright I admit after the first few days of day one, I in a way, kinda stopped trying. I felt greatly discouraged and honestly just wanted to replace out. However rereading I personally do not think I was being antitown or scummy at the time as I had not given up on the game that early. So anyone that joined in putting pressure on me is definitely in my slight scum lean list.

Bm's whole thing about not liking to lie and not caring about anyone's opinion except his own is a strange post to make day 1. It's just very .... strange and I dont understand why scum or town would say something like this tbh.

So Bob continues to be active but not inputting much useful info. It seems he is siding with bm in the bmvnoraa thing but is mostly dealing in fluff anyways. he is not trying to get too involved and is trying to extend rvs in a way.

Mena popping in and saying BmvNoraa, something that happened in the first 5 pages, is TvS is VERY scummy. I absolutely hate that. It almost feels like scum TMIing and trying to set up two mislims bc they know both bm and I are town. If bm is Mena's scum partner, he wouldn't say that. this is why Mena and BM aren't scum together imo. Mena's flipflopping between me and bm is concerning as well.

Post #166 was when I started giving up. Everything before post 166 was when I believe I was giving this game my normal which is a ton a ton of attention and thought. After this I was considering just lurking or replacing out because I was pretty upset about how things were playing out and felt low-key bullied over nothing cuz as I said, I gave it my normal and the responses I got weren't nice especially from bm. Btw dont tell me wanting to lurk or replace out is scummy bc I seriously was upset about it. I have zero games, finished or ongoing where I actively lurk. My post counts are generally the highest and I'm spammy as hell normally. This game truly upset me and there's nothing more to that.

Taylor comes in and immediately takes my side which I can definitely see as trying to pocket. Taylor has been in games with me and I think anyone thats been in a game with me before can 100% tell that I was actually quite upset. And since I'm a pretty emotionally driven person, when I'm upset is the perfect time for scum to come pocket.

Back to Mena. Mena's Fos on BM just looks OMGUSy to me. The change to me isn't well justified either. I think the flip floppiness is actually a town tell as the entire thing was quite confusing if I do say so myself. towns reaction should be confusion imo. I was in it myself so I got a different view on things but I think a normal townies reaction should be to be confused. Mena is in my town book for townie confusion.

Post 199 feels town. Taylor was JKer in one of the games I finished with her. I'm getting the same vibes from there here so Taylor is in my early town book as well for meta reasons. Another thing is that Taylor seems quite a bit emotionally driven this game and that is 100% a town tell for her.

Piis entrance strikes me as town here. The post covers a little bit of everything, had some good reasons, didn't tunnel or focus on anything specifically yet, and had a nice summary. Pii in my early town book as well for this very towny sounding first post.

TGP's entrance is a terrible look. It reeks of scumminess. TGP thinks tunneling is scummy whereas I actually am fairly certain that tunneling is actually something town unintentionally does. TGP also calls me confident when all of my reads are very uncertain and very not confident. I feel like this is scum just twisting everything up to make some scumtells out of nothing.

Shelly I honestly felt was pretty scummy this round but I will not state anything on her since we already got a flip and she was town.

Alonzo is one of the people that caught my attention even in my ~salty~ phase and still is in my town book. The reasoning is that most his perspectives I think are much more likely to come from town than scum. The mena SR coming in wasn't scummy bc scums easiest thing to do is choose one out of {Bm, Noraa} and yeet them to hell. Alonzo's unvote soon after makes me really like thinking of that slot as town bc I also started off SRing mena but then TRing.

Teacher's entrance is a load of fluff which is an interesting take considering we moved out of rvs pretty fast and he was a bit late entering. The more you see of teacher, the more towny he seems. He moves into good questions really fast and almost all of his questions prompt or try to prompt good discussion that move the game forward. Town book. Strong TR.

Ico's entrance was ... interesting and gave me a null read on them but then their switch from mena to me and then off of me was very scummy. I felt like Ico came in and tried to pocket me(defends me all over the place despite saying they didn't want to take a defensive stance on me) but then realized I was great limbait and decided to start setting me up to be the day 1 lim. Ico pushes that NoraavBM is TvT but then flips and calls me scum. Idk I dont like the flip flopping.

Datisi focuses on me too much. His ISO reflects it and I find it scummy. It looks like very low-key tunneling that hidden really well.

iamausername is a null read. Idk not much to say there. Their reads r interesting takes and I generally agree with them but I'm not feeling immense towniness here so I think they belong in null.

Bob lurks a lil. cherry picks interesting things to reply to.

Datisi tunnels quite a bit imo. I think he'll go to my town lean for that.

TGP's switch from Noraa to BM is terrible. I hatehatehatehate. Switch to shelly over one post is scummy as well. Sheeps some newbtown reads on me. Strong SR now. Backtracks and says the TR on me is weak and I basically shouldn't question it otherwise it'll disappear. The post was a bit of a "threat" TGP is also very fence sitty as shown in post 650.

Bob clings to BMvNoraa. Reasserts my slight scum lean. He never tries to solve anything else.

see posts like 630 are why I dislike BM.

I admit I got a bit tired rereading so I ended up skimming a lot of the in between pages. 84 pages is a lot and it took me ~3 hours to read it all even when more than half was skimmed.

Scum:

Ico, Bob, Datisi, BM, TGP (in no particular order)

Null:

Iamausername

Town:
Mena, Taylor, Pii/Bunno, Alonzo, Teacher (in no particular order)


Most scum: TGP(even tho their posts got better later)

Most town: Alonzo/Teacher

Added on Sunday:
Holy fuck that flash wagon on Taylor... y'all literally hammered before I took one look at the thread. I logged onto ms and saw mod's pm that day 2 had started, checked the thread and it was locked. I thought mod hadn't opened thread yet until I saw the thread was night phase and Taylor was limmed in a literal 3 pages or something. Bm is confscum so that's our lim today but even tho its decided, we have to talk things thru bc we already mislimmed twice and wasted away day 2's time. We can't let scum!BM self hammer and waste our discussion time.

[Titus]

If you haven't given non Taylor reads since I subbed in, they are stale. Telling me to read the game doesn't absolve you of answering where your current reads are.

[Bell]

[Noraa]

I am pretty willing to believe you are town right now because Noraa/Adorable solve is what some people are suggesting and this is really fishy because I am the most highly SRed and you are pretty clearly busy and no offense but you are definitely considered LHF. LHF=low hanging fruit or easy limbait.

this is a really fake trajectory
sometimes the consensus is right
granted I disagree with adora/noraa

when one is LHF and the other is universally SRed, chances are that they aren't the solve, they are just easy fucking mislims

[shellyc]

when one is LHF and the other is universally SRed, chances are that they aren't the solve, they are just easy fucking mislims

i have seen town hit scum d1 a lot of times in my MS career

why do you think adorable is lhf tho
I think they're rather obvtown to me

[Titus]

@Bell, join me on Pooky.

We can discuss Noraa hand off on a later time because we disagree. Pooky is acting like caught scum above the execution here.

[shellyc]

@Bell, join me on Pooky.

We can discuss Noraa hand off on a later time because we disagree. Pooky is acting like caught scum above the execution here.

titus that slot is town having a tvt shitfight over meta and hyperfocusing is town!AI because scum do not have a nightkill and need to shade as many people as possible to get misexes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Bell, join me on Pooky.

We can discuss Noraa hand off on a later time because we disagree. Pooky is acting like caught scum above the execution here.

rofl i hope you're town

[Bell]

@Bell, join me on Pooky.

We can discuss Noraa hand off on a later time because we disagree. Pooky is acting like caught scum above the execution here.

Why can't people see that Shelly rolled scum this game.

@Inb4 shelly says she didn't (when she actually still did).

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz titus is having fun trolling me

[Titus]

@Bell, join me on Pooky.

We can discuss Noraa hand off on a later time because we disagree. Pooky is acting like caught scum above the execution here.

Why can't people see that Shelly rolled scum this game.

@Inb4 shelly says she didn't (when she actually still did).

Shelly might be scum. Hard to see in the noise.

[Bell]

Anyway, grandma had a bad morning so I might not post much today. We'll see how it goes.

[shellyc]

can someone make a case on pooky or something because that slot is bleeding town

also for reasons I will not discuss my SR on bell has decreased slightly

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ill make the case for you shelly.


Taylor says im 95% scum because I'm not soul reading anyone.

Gloria says I'm scum because I'm using meta on Taylor despite only have 2 completed games with Taylor.

Titus says I'm scum because I don't feel like answering her questions when she hasn't read the game.

Mush is busy writing fan-fiction about me.

Anyone else in the Pooky Fan-Club I'm missing?

[Noraa]

TLDR(still dont know what this means but I think it means summary) of my reads list:

Adorable-town
Bell-town
Fidget-scum(there was some post from this slot asking me about my reads but I forgot to answer if you still have those questions, repost and I'll answer)
Flea-town
Gloria-town(went from null to town, although I hear Mush's point I do not think scums ever try to save me rn bc pocketing me honestly does nothing for them)
Hopkirk-null(I still can't tell)
LLD-I will extremely begrudgingly say town
Lapsa-null scum lean
Murder-town lean(went from scum to town lean for reasons stated yesterday)
Mush-town
Pooky-still null(I dont see the benefit of scum!pooky continuing to push me without LLD to back him up but I also dont see why an experienced player would go about a town game like ... this)
Shelly-scum
Taylor-town
Theta-still null(idk this slot started semi lurking after some pressure was placed and idk what to think about that tho I 100% did notice)
Titus/VaultDweller-scum(went from null to scum, jumps around and I can't follow the thought process at all, it just seems like sheeping consensus reads)
Toogeloo-scum lean
Uno-town .... lean(uno questioned my TR and I think that its not a read anymore, its more a lean. really weak but I'll take a look at ISO sometime today and see what I think about it second time through)
Vaxkiller/Isis-null
Zdenek-null

I actually really like this reads list

[Noraa]

ill make the case for you shelly.


Taylor says im 95% scum because I'm not soul reading anyone.

Gloria says I'm scum because I'm using meta on Taylor despite only have 2 completed games with Taylor.

Titus says I'm scum because I don't feel like answering her questions when she hasn't read the game.

Mush is busy writing fan-fiction about me.

Anyone else in the Pooky Fan-Club I'm missing?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm sorry but the way you said these is so funny, I literally can't even imagine how they must feel to see their SRs described like this. +funny points.
I'm more jokey as town. are you more jokey as town?

[Titus]

can someone make a case on pooky or something because that slot is bleeding town

also for reasons I will not discuss my SR on bell has decreased slightly

Not sure how you get bleeding town from a slot that only can scream Taylor is scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are getting better at this pocketing thing


brw the reason I am unconvinced by your townspew is because I have a lot more respect for your play than anybody else here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can someone make a case on pooky or something because that slot is bleeding town

also for reasons I will not discuss my SR on bell has decreased slightly

Not sure how you get bleeding town from a slot that only can scream Taylor is scum.

this might be hard for you to believe titus but the game didnt begin when you repped in.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have 300 posts

most of them are not about t-swizzle

theres something called reality.

[Noraa]

you are getting better at this pocketing thing


brw the reason I am unconvinced by your townspew is because I have a lot more respect for your play than anybody else here.

you have respect for my play? really now? explain.

[Noraa]

as far as I'm concerned you have only one finished town game with me and I was a RGB cop that claimed 3rd party scum.
If anything you should legitimately think my town play is bullshit.