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[Marky Mark]

Which particular part of the above do you feel is being misrepped?

Also interesting format of response - if I was factually incorrect in what I was saying about you surely the more straightforward thing to do would be to disprove/correct me rather than just throw words like misrep my way and see what sticks?

[VP Baltar]

I'm not sure what DK's posting frequency has been like in other games - there's a decent amount of proactivity in there but also a lot of fluff. Scum me is all about stacking the post count high to make it more of a faff for the town to pick up the important stuff, so I could totally see someone pulling this as a scum move.

I haven't played with scum!Koba, but this is basically how they posted in the town game I played. Probably NAI.

[VP Baltar]

I may as well address my geraintm vote, which I think is quite obvious, but everyone asking can't be scum (though I am certain at least one is).

I initially voted them as a bit of pressure because they were fluffing and semi-lurking. Then geraintm finally comes back to the thread and posts an angry screed about how fluffy D1 is and laments why we can't just hurry along to D2. Is it possible that comes from town? Maybe. But it also feels very manufactured when you consider we only had a handful of pages at that point. I could see getting annoyed at fluff posting and a long D1 if we were on like page 50. But only ~10 pages? Seems fake.

Geraintm hasn't posted any substance since then either. If they are so eager to get to the meat of the game, why aren't they scum hunting?

[VP Baltar]

Btw, shelly and infinity, definitely am going to require you to explain why you chose to attack me over my geraintm vote while saying nothing about DGB's vote.

What made me more scummy than DGB?

[VP Baltar]

The part where they're talking about eating the NK after they yeet a scum is them being incredibly confident that they're going to lynch scum D1, which is mathematically unlikely and Town hardly ever has that much confidence given Townies would know next to nothing outside of what their role is. Also the fact they're extremely confident that Koba or themselves is going to die at night, that means that they're incredibly confident that Koba is town and it's like scum is needing to pocket Koba but not push their full innocence as they might be a needed push later down the line and they don't want to put the full effort of having to develop a full ass 180 story.

Yeah, I'm confident that if Koba is town here, we have pretty good odds of yeeting scum D1. I don't play to lose or hem and haw. Neither does Koba is my sense.

Further, if Andres and DGB are town, scum are in for a rough road. That's potentially 4 fairly aggressive town players to contend with from the start.

Why should I concede D1 has to be a misyeet?

[Infinity 324]

Btw, shelly and infinity, definitely am going to require you to explain why you chose to attack me over my geraintm vote while saying nothing about DGB's vote.

What made me more scummy than DGB?

I didn’t like the fact that you wanted gerain to comment on shelly but you didn’t. Anyway I think that’s awful reasoning (why would scum fake being frustrated about content? Lol) but I don’t think you made it up. UNVOTE:

[DrippingGoofball]

Bad thing about no daytalk is that scum are just gonna spaghetti all over themselves trying to stop their buddies from eating a yeet.

Shelly, if you're town, I'd prolly stop trying to save geraintm bc it's going to look bad when he flips red

Nah, trust me, if they feel like they have a weak partner, they are going to help us yeet it.

[VP Baltar]

Bad thing about no daytalk is that scum are just gonna spaghetti all over themselves trying to stop their buddies from eating a yeet.

Shelly, if you're town, I'd prolly stop trying to save geraintm bc it's going to look bad when he flips red

Nah, trust me, if they feel like they have a weak partner, they are going to help us yeet it.

Maybe. Probably depends on experience level. Losing a buddy D1 is a sketchy proposition if you're not confident in your own scum play.

[VP Baltar]

I didn’t like the fact that you wanted gerain to comment on shelly but you didn’t.

Except, that's not true?

I was actively pressuring shelly in 180 184 and 190.

Very clearly I felt there was merit in that push, and that's why I questioned and poked at shelly there.

[Infinity 324]

I didn’t like the fact that you wanted gerain to comment on shelly but you didn’t.

Except, that's not true?

I was actively pressuring shelly in 180 184 and 190.

Very clearly I felt there was merit in that push, and that's why I questioned and poked at shelly there.

Looked to me like side commentary, there was no voting or questioning of shelly.

[VP Baltar]

Looked to me like side commentary, there was no voting or questioning of shelly.

Post 180 is a literal question to shelly.

[Infinity 324]

Fair enough, and I agree that it was clear you thought it had merit. But you didn’t give an opinion or commit yourself to anything, it felt kinda like throwing shade to me.

[Infinity 324]

Also

Apparently the sesq slot was filled so we gonna get a new voice soon hopefully

Lol you thought

[VP Baltar]

Fair enough, and I agree that it was clear you thought it had merit. But you didn’t give an opinion or commit yourself to anything, it felt kinda like throwing shade to me.

I mean, the way I tend to see it is that town is a push and pull with other town players. Koba was doing a good job pushing shelly hard. I wanted to notch that pressure up a bit (or at least reinforce Koba was not alone in suspicion), but felt no need to take over the inquisition. I think it is fine for town to play supporting roles when the situation calls for it.

[Infinity 324]

Makes sense

[DkKoba]

Which particular part of the above do you feel is being misrepped?

Also interesting format of response - if I was factually incorrect in what I was saying about you surely the more straightforward thing to do would be to disprove/correct me rather than just throw words like misrep my way and see what sticks?

What are you on about? U said something untrue idc if u wanna believe it or not its on u if you trust me lmao??

[DkKoba]

not mafia are u avoiding this thread?

[Marky Mark]

Which particular part of the above do you feel is being misrepped?

Also interesting format of response - if I was factually incorrect in what I was saying about you surely the more straightforward thing to do would be to disprove/correct me rather than just throw words like misrep my way and see what sticks?

What are you on about? U said something untrue idc if u wanna believe it or not its on u if you trust me lmao??

You were saying that I was misrepping you without giving explaining how. You still haven't explained what I've actually said that you think is a misrep - I'd like to know please as currently you are just throwing unsubstantiated shade .

I just find all of this a bit odd because if it was the other way around and you were saying that I said XYZ and I hadn't, then my default reaction would be to just correct you rather than making some opaque statement.

[DkKoba]

lol ok my guy whatever floats your boat
im high as shit rn and dont care

[Glitch]

Official Vote Count 1.03

Earth is the element of substance. The people of the Earth Kingdom are proud and strong; they are persistent and can endure anything, as long as they have hope. The Earth Kingdom was the centermost opposition to the Fire Nation's hundred year war, and though they lost the war and were taken over by the Fire Nation, the people of the Earth Kingdom remained strong and loyal.

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Official Vote Count 1.03

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

geraintm: 4

(VP Baltar, Marky Mark, DrippingGoofball, Andresvmb)

shellyc: 2

(JacksonVirgo, NDMath)

NDMath: 2

(shellyc, DkKoba)

DkKoba: 1

(Tayl0r Swift)

Infinity 324: 1

(geraintm)

Not Voting: 3

(Sesq, Zdenek, Infinity 324)

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-06 00:19:20).

Mod notes:

Zdenek is V/LA until Monday.[/area]

[Marky Mark]

lol ok my guy whatever floats your boat
im high as shit rn and dont care

And still you deflect. I'm not sure if you're doing this to get a reaction out of me!? I've highlighted a couple of things you've done and rn it kinda feels like you're trying to soft undermine/discredit me over them without actually making a coherent argument for what I've said that you disagree with :S

[VP Baltar]

DkKoba: 1 (Tayl0r Swift)
Infinity 324: 1 (geraintm)

Look at these votes to find people who are not genuinely working to solve the game.

[VP Baltar]

Also, not mafia can weigh in at any point

[Andresvmb]

I’ll be catching up I’ve been watching football all day.

[Andresvmb]

@Koba just because I said I wasn’t getting Towny vibes from you, does not mean that I think you’re sure Scum or something. Look I tend to be very skeptical of any appeals at an easy “Town clear”. And yeah I also don’t read all of the rules. So I get it. VPB’s point that it might be NAI is totally valid. But it’s also the attack on Shellyc (183). In any case, you know I like playing with you, so implying that I always do this to you when we’ve clearly worked well together in the past is somewhat unfair I feel.