Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[Tammy]

F in the chat

[midwaybear]

We should probably look at who wasn't really pushing Bell early D1 given that he is a suicide bomber.

[DiamondSentinel]

That's a lot of deaths.

Also, for the record, I would like to point out that so far, this game has not gone against FG's mod meta. He loves to run suicide bombers of varying alignments.

Anyways, with Gamma town and Bell scum, that really doesn't look good for peta. VOTE: Petapan

[midwaybear]

Why doesn't that look good again? Peta is sorta scummy though

[petapan]

is nahdia scum with ds? fuck no. probably not scum with cakez, either. nahdia/midway is possible

i guess

but seems somewhat less likely

[petapan]

That's a lot of deaths.

Also, for the record, I would like to point out that so far, this game has not gone against FG's mod meta. He loves to run suicide bombers of varying alignments.

Anyways, with Gamma town and Bell scum, that really doesn't look good for peta. VOTE: Petapan

based on what lmao

[petapan]

i have regrets this game but i dont regret digging my heels in against voting gamma ultimately

[midwaybear]

Are you forgetting Bulge...

[petapan]

Nahdia, I have a question: would you ever pull a gambit of having a teammate vote you like Bell did, hoping the wagon doesn't go through?

[petapan]

Are you forgetting Bulge...

midwaybear, i led a wagon and was wrong. that fucking happens in this game. i have no idea why you keep trying to throw dirt on me for it

[Nahdia]

i wouldn't encourage it, particularly given bell's role. but if my teammates wanted to do it, i'm not the sort to demand im not bussed.

[midwaybear]

I just don't think you would be that wrong. Did you ever reconsider your read on him? Just doesn't seem realistic for me that you would pure deathtunnel a town.
Also, looking at VCs, Bell had 3 votes max D1 which was a lot less that I was expecting.

[midwaybear]

lol DS day 1 was like "I don't like Bell, but his wagon stinks". Hmmm

[petapan]

i wouldn't encourage it, particularly given bell's role. but if my teammates wanted to do it, i'm not the sort to demand im not bussed.

well the point is it'd be a gambit because obviously bell was planning to go boom last night. he wouldn't be bussing, he'd be hoping to make you look town when he flips. but i don't know that he risks that if there's a chance the wagon goes through and i don't know if you'd want to gambit like that

[midwaybear]

But lowkey, I would also expect scum to also scumread bell to some extent given that he isn't the one to endgame.

[Tammy]

Not gonna say much right now, but I’m gonna reread the game over the next couple days.

There was a time where day three I got my shit together and had some solid reads. Hopefully that will happen here!

[DiamondSentinel]

Peta's early low effort "pressure" (if you can even call it that) and then immediately hopping off at the weakest rational (post 834, by the way) was awful. Peta also only really did anything in response to others pressuring Bell, so it screams like they're looking for town-cred.

Meanwhile based on reading together, any of my reasonable combinations that didn't have Gamma!scum had peta!scum (I was looking at gamma/nahdia/bell and gamma/midway/bell, but now I'm looking at peta/S_S and peta/nahdia).

At least for now, I'll let midway be town. But I've got to go back and iso them a bit closer.

[DiamondSentinel]

lol DS day 1 was like "I don't like Bell, but his wagon stinks". Hmmm

I still stand by what I said. That Bell wagon reads as a super hard bus, and I think we'd do well to start scumhunting there.

[midwaybear]

The height of the Bell wagon was two dead town and me I believe.

[Tammy]

You think petas scum with something smart?

[petapan]

Just doesn't seem realistic for me that you would pure deathtunnel a town.

...you've played all of 1 game with me? and in that game i had a similarly shitty tunnel on Caster? that i only even reconsidered overnight? not to mention that i do this all the time. it's a weakness that i didn't try hard enough to read bulge, i didn't let myself be swayed by his genuine moments. it fucking happens. why are you doubting i would play like this as town, you barely know me

But lowkey, I would also expect scum to also scumread bell to some extent given that he isn't the one to endgame.

right which is why his thing with cakez yesterday seems suspect in hindsight

[DiamondSentinel]

5 people total, but yes.
Which actually brings me to why I was isoing you.

You starting the wagon on bell looks awful. I don't like that one bit, but the rational wasn't that bad. Cabd and fferylt following are fine since they're town. And then that leaves peta jumping on, and Nahdia hopping on for a bit.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, disregard that I cannot read, Tammy. I just woke up.

[midwaybear]

Oh really. I'll probably have to actually reread that part of the game then.

[midwaybear]

Well I actually wasn't basing it off of meta or any percieved understanding of how you play the game, but it was just a baseline expectation. If that's a bad habit of yours then I suppose I can be a bit more light, but meh.