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[Andresvmb]

and ur read on shellyc doesn't make sense to me. tables are different. Like they LITERALLY are so fucking scummy and you come out with that shit.. then shade the person who started the wagon.. hm

Also I don’t actually have a solid read on shellyc either way. She just has not come across to me as blatantly Scummy. Or not Scummy to the point where I would call them obvScum.

[Andresvmb]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

Okay I’m going to actually disagree with this. I think Infinity is Town. I don’t know about Koba yet. Those attempts at early reads lists are reasonably likely to come from Town in my view.

lmao hold up so... i literally outted an ealry reads list first. Are you trying to deliberately misrep me?
The more I read andres posts the less i trust him
Im removing him from my townleans for now. His insitence on preventing the shellyc wagon on the lowkey feels scummy

My disagreement was much more targeted at Shellyc and her take on Infinity. I openly said I wasn’t sure about you, which means I wasn’t as focused on that part of it. I also acknowledge that you did put out an early reads list, so that’s a positive.

[Andresvmb]

andres, what's your read on DGB at the moment?

Town Lean. That comment towards geraintm about how we’re going to put them out of their misery made me laugh.

[Andresvmb]

Im at work so cant really talk much but yhe ger wagon isnt good imo

Can you expand on this?

[Infinity 324]

My disagreement was much more targeted at Shellyc and her take on Infinity. I openly said I wasn’t sure about you, which means I wasn’t as focused on that part of it. I also acknowledge that you did put out an early reads list, so that’s a positive.

About that, why did you think the readslist was towny when I only did it because koba asked?

[Andresvmb]

I am away for 11 hours and 5 pages of worthless posts to read through on a weekend when I have limited access.
This is going to be a fun game....

I've played with a few people in this game before. If they could be bothered they could explain to the rest my limited posts so far. I'll rather let people talk themselves into a frenzy.

Can we just skip to day 2 already though?

If anybody wants to know why I’m voting where I am, all they have to do is read this post btw.

I agree with shelly actually, this wagon seems bad. This post is the only reason anyone has given for a gerain scumread, and it's pretty much NAI. (Like, early d1s can be frustrating and random, and you usually don't get scum).

UNVOTE:
VOTE: VP baltar

This is a better vote.

Yeah early D1s can be frustrating. Not going to disagree with that. But it’s the attitude that is more the problem, at least to me. If you don’t see anything that you find relevant to discern alignment, then you can just clearly state that you either don’t have any reads yet or maybe try and point to something useful or throw out a gut read. That moves the game forward.

[Infinity 324]

He was pretty clearly catching up though?

[Andresvmb]

Koba where are you? I think there’s some chance shellyc is Scum here hahaha

[DkKoba]

Im at work so cant really talk much but yhe ger wagon isnt good imo

Can you expand on this?

Im high asf rn so no but ipl try to remember tomorrow

[Andresvmb]

My disagreement was much more targeted at Shellyc and her take on Infinity. I openly said I wasn’t sure about you, which means I wasn’t as focused on that part of it. I also acknowledge that you did put out an early reads list, so that’s a positive.

About that, why did you think the readslist was towny when I only did it because koba asked?

Would you rather I SR you for providing a reads list, even though it was prompted? I know what you’re getting at, but what I liked about the list was that I did not find it offensive (I thought it was reasonable and could see how you arrived at some of those early reads).

[Andresvmb]

This is not a townie mindset at all

JV do you like bussing

math calling VP town is ????????

i'll vote in {VP, math} atm

VPs 237 is close to a scumslip imo and math randomly town on VP + really consensus-y play without furthering the game

Why do you think the discrediting comes from scum

Koba is too engaged and proactive to be scum at all

There’s too much confidence in these reads.

[VP Baltar]

Koba where are you? I think there’s some chance shellyc is Scum here hahaha

I won't take this as an insult I wasn't mentioned.

I'd yeet shelly or geraintm today. You got a preference?

[NDMath]

i'll vote in {VP, math} atm

VPs 237 is close to a scumslip imo and math randomly town on VP + really consensus-y play without furthering the game

This sounds like any read I make you're gonna call scummy.

Of what we've had so far, Infinity sticks out as a TR for generally solid analysis in their posts.

I'm getting caught on his VP reaction. It seems like he decided VP was scummy/scumlean and then repeatedly adjusted his justification for it.

[NDMath]

Ebwop: caught on his VP interaction.

[DkKoba]

lol what?

[Infinity 324]

I'm getting caught on his VP reaction. It seems like he decided VP was scummy/scumlean and then repeatedly adjusted his justification for it.

I guess I had trouble explaining my gut reaction to VP's sideline shelly push.

[Infinity 324]

Oh and btw, if people haven't played with not_mafia before, they generally don't really contribute to the game and like to lolhammer. E-2 should be treated like E-1 with them in the game.

[DkKoba]

So?

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: jacksonvirgo

[shellyc]

Koba where are you? I think there’s some chance shellyc is Scum here hahaha

Andres you can never read me correctly

Projecting a confident tone is strictly nai

[shellyc]

I'm getting caught on his VP reaction. It seems like he decided VP was scummy/scumlean and then repeatedly adjusted his justification for it.

Why do you think that’s scummy though

[shellyc]

Btw, shelly and infinity, definitely am going to require you to explain why you chose to attack me over my geraintm vote while saying nothing about DGB's vote.

What made me more scummy than DGB?

DGB overall tone is really kinda laidback in a town way as town are getting a feel for the game in early game
And DGB is I afraid to go against the majority opinion which reads rather townie

[shellyc]

as a former chat mafia player i find them extremely useful for finding a "baseline" read level to start out with. id still like to see where your general vibes are so i can get a sense where your head is at.

Pretty sure this is mostly just personality/playstyle but

taylor - townish
jackson - townish
shelly - townish
DGB - scummish
gerain - scummish
baltar - scummish
mark - townish

ok hmmmmmm

hot take infinity is scummy and koba is townie
koba is *proactively* solving and poking around, infinity is *reactionary* readslisting

Okay I’m going to actually disagree with this. I think Infinity is Town. I don’t know about Koba yet. Those attempts at early reads lists are reasonably likely to come from Town in my view.

lmao hold up so... i literally outted an ealry reads list first. Are you trying to deliberately misrep me?
The more I read andres posts the less i trust him
Im removing him from my townleans for now. His insitence on preventing the shellyc wagon on the lowkey feels scummy

My disagreement was much more targeted at Shellyc and her take on Infinity. I openly said I wasn’t sure about you, which means I wasn’t as focused on that part of it. I also acknowledge that you did put out an early reads list, so that’s a positive.

I am away for 11 hours and 5 pages of worthless posts to read through on a weekend when I have limited access.
This is going to be a fun game....

I've played with a few people in this game before. If they could be bothered they could explain to the rest my limited posts so far. I'll rather let people talk themselves into a frenzy.

Can we just skip to day 2 already though?

If anybody wants to know why I’m voting where I am, all they have to do is read this post btw.

I agree with shelly actually, this wagon seems bad. This post is the only reason anyone has given for a gerain scumread, and it's pretty much NAI. (Like, early d1s can be frustrating and random, and you usually don't get scum).

UNVOTE:
VOTE: VP baltar

This is a better vote.

Yeah early D1s can be frustrating. Not going to disagree with that. But it’s the attitude that is more the problem, at least to me. If you don’t see anything that you find relevant to discern alignment, then you can just clearly state that you either don’t have any reads yet or maybe try and point to something useful or throw out a gut read. That moves the game forward.

out of the tons of people that aren’t giving AI content yet why are you picking out gerain

[shellyc]

Taylor where are you

Tryhard early posts followed by naked vote is definitely scum AI for Taylor
Town Taylor is more relaxed/less high effort

[Infinity 324]

Tryhard early posts

Where has she done this?

Also what are your thoughts on andres?