Newbie 2037 - Game Over

[Billy Pilgrim]

I found 2 questions and i seriously dont know how i missed them my apologies.

Spoiler:

I think padwag is scummier but I'll do bak for now.

VOTE: bakslash
That's E-2

How did this happen 4 pages in?? What is town going to get out of this?

What about this is striking to you? Is it the third vote/E-2 or is it something else?

I just find it strange how someone was at E-2 so quickly this early

You really think I’d be asking the town how to scum?

You have a good point there I don’t think you would but I would say the same thing to anyone that asked those questions

Can you explain your comment then?

It seems scummy to do but I’ve played with Italiano before so I don’t think they would need to ask for their benefit

What is your read of Italiano at the moment?

Italiano so far is trying to get the game moving in my eyes, even if it is through weird ways like his RQS so as of now i would say they are pretty townie

What is weird about it? And what does that make you think about anything there with respect to people's alignments?

[Billy Pilgrim]

My justification is that you are giving analysis but it doesn't to anything. You are going with the flow and keeping up with the conversation,

Excellent read there, but also one that could easily be attributed to yourself, mini, bakslash and maybe padwag.

It's actually more a case of scum jumping on the easiest wagon, isn't it? Less work to do than starting your own.

Are you saying Dunn is scum here? If so why are you still not voting? If you're convinced that scum is on your wagon who is it?

[Billy Pilgrim]

From what I've seen so far, Dunnstral has been the least helpful to town. Instead of answering questions and being informative, he asks people why they're enquiring and jumps on the defensive. I actually agree with Norfolk when he says "that could easily be attributed to yourself", in my eyes it is very hypocritical

I'm suspicious. Billy, Mini and whoever else has played with him before- is this just who he is? Is there anything AI in his lack of responses?

Vote: Dunnstral

Dunn plays a pretty lurky game. He got elimed in my first newbie game as a result of it.

Why did you get off of Norfolk now? You had voted him back at 48 and now after Dunn and Rockhopper were on him you switched your vote? Whats your read of Norfolk at the moment?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Rocky, Dunnstral and Italiano - if i'm scum, who is my scumbuddy?

I don’t partner hunt, but you can tell

us

.

Don't be weak. See it through - name a name.

Ok this is scummy. Doubling down on a pre-flip partner associative.

I'm not worried about a quickhammer because that's a scum-claim and I deathtunnel you if im alive tomorrow.

VOTE: Norfolk

[ItalianoVD]

Intent to hammer.

[ItalianoVD]

My bad, that’s only E-2

[ItalianoVD]

And yeah after looking at it again why did you jump to Dunnstral? @Facebones

Did his lack of helping seem more scummy than the reason you voted for Norfolk?

[Rockhopper]

Reading. I'm on my phone this time

[Rockhopper]

UNVOTE:

[MiniMegabyte]

What is weird about it? And what does that make you think about anything there with respect to people's alignments?

I just dont think i have every played a game where someone got to E-2 so quickly. So it amazed me that it happened so early

[Norfolk Boy1]

I just dont think i have every played a game where someone got to E-2 so quickly. So it amazed me that it happened so early

2029 - pretty sure it happened even quicker there.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Rocky, Dunnstral and Italiano - if i'm scum, who is my scumbuddy?

2 of 3 have posted since this and the other is Dunnstral who is a part timer.

Somebody must be bold enough to share their latest reads on who is scum 2 if i'm scum 1, even if it's a 'gut read'.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Also, I have no problem with being eliminated, but lets be sensible and give it another calendar day or 2 before we go through the E1 process.

[Micc]

Votecount 1.05

Norfolk Boy1 (2) -

Dunnstral, Billy Pilgrim

Billy Pilgrim (1) -

ItalianoVD

Dunnstral (1) -

Facebones

Not Voting (5) -

Bakslash, Norfolk Boy1, padwag, MiniMegabyte, Rockhopper

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-10-30 12:15:00).

Prodding Bakslash.

[Facebones]

Post 187 didn't strike me as something scum Norfolk would do tbh, although he could be trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Is this what a WIFOM is?

[Bakslash]

VOTE: Norfolk Boy1

Here is my gut scumread

My justification is that you are giving analysis but it doesn't to anything. You are going with the flow and keeping up with the conversation,

I get scum vibes from this for three reasons.
1. Could be a bandwagon.
2. Only explained the vote after asked to, rather than doing so in the vote post.
3. The justification is too broad. It could be applied to various other people rather than just Norfolk(as Norfolk has already explained)
VOTE: Dunnstral

[Billy Pilgrim]

And yeah after looking at it again why did you jump to Dunnstral? @Facebones

Did his lack of helping seem more scummy than the reason you voted for Norfolk?

Now I know this is partially messed up by the way i think we both messed up the vote count, but you're still on me. You feel comfortable hammering a wagon that im on?

[Billy Pilgrim]

UNVOTE:

Why?

[Billy Pilgrim]

What is weird about it? And what does that make you think about anything there with respect to people's alignments?

I just dont think i have every played a game where someone got to E-2 so quickly. So it amazed me that it happened so early

You realize that wasn't the first wagon to get to E-2 this game right? At 78, I put a wagon to E-2. What happened there?

[Billy Pilgrim]

Post 187 didn't strike me as something scum Norfolk would do tbh, although he could be trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Is this what a WIFOM is?

What about that said it wouldn't come from scum?

[ItalianoVD]

Also, I have no problem with being eliminated, but lets be sensible and give it another calendar day or 2 before we go through the E1 process.

Hmm. I’m trying to figure out if this is scum-motivated or town-motivated. What do his voters think? What does everyone else think?

Post 187 didn't strike me as something scum Norfolk would do tbh,

although he could be trying to pull the wool over our eyes

. Is this what a WIFOM is?

If that’s how you feel, like if that’s in your mind then you don’t let him wiggle out of it by backing off.

And yeah after looking at it again why did you jump to Dunnstral? @Facebones

Did his lack of helping seem more scummy than the reason you voted for Norfolk?

Now I know this is partially messed up by the way i think we both messed up the vote count, but you're still on me. You feel comfortable hammering a wagon that im on?

Yes I am, because potentially getting scum is potentially getting scum; that is the goal. I have non problem doing it because the fact of the matter is I could be wrong. I don’t wanna be so focused on you that I prevent the town from reaching its goal. This sentiment rings true for everyone in the game.

[ItalianoVD]

All this unvoting is bothersome. Why do it? Especially with no explanation. Let’s put him back at E-2.

VOTE: Norfolk Boy1

[Billy Pilgrim]

Also, I have no problem with being eliminated, but lets be sensible and give it another calendar day or 2 before we go through the E1 process.

Hmm. I’m trying to figure out if this is scum-motivated or town-motivated. What do his voters think? What does everyone else think?

Post 187 didn't strike me as something scum Norfolk would do tbh,

although he could be trying to pull the wool over our eyes

. Is this what a WIFOM is?

If that’s how you feel, like if that’s in your mind then you don’t let him wiggle out of it by backing off.

And yeah after looking at it again why did you jump to Dunnstral? @Facebones

Did his lack of helping seem more scummy than the reason you voted for Norfolk?

Now I know this is partially messed up by the way i think we both messed up the vote count, but you're still on me. You feel comfortable hammering a wagon that im on?

Yes I am, because potentially getting scum is potentially getting scum; that is the goal. I have non problem doing it because the fact of the matter is I could be wrong. I don’t wanna be so focused on you that I prevent the town from reaching its goal. This sentiment rings true for everyone in the game.

I've seen this anti-survival move work to get people cleared alot on this site, but this one didn't seem townie to me. He just says he's ok being the elim. I think in this game and this situation its more likely to come from scum than town.

[Billy Pilgrim]

Rockhopper - you unvoted but didn't remote. Whats your read of Norfolk and who is your top scumread?

[padwag]

Rocky, Dunnstral and Italiano - if i'm scum, who is my scumbuddy?

2 of 3 have posted since this and the other is Dunnstral who is a part timer.

Somebody must be bold enough to share their latest reads on who is scum 2 if i'm scum 1, even if it's a 'gut read'.

The problem here isn't finding one person who could be your scumpartner, it's narrowing it down to one person. I would say it could be pretty much anyone other than Dunnastral and ItalianoVD.