Death Curse

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2775 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:19 pm

In post 2770, Noraa wrote:what does a green Noraa flip do to you do you know?

Won't happen

MUSHSHAGANA · Post Post #2776 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:19 pm

In post 2762, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1045, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:she's basically admitting she's scum at this point

the question now is do we pivot off her and come back to her for the 3rd scroll or hard push this thru come hell or high water
see above

i also unvote Noraa b4 LLD

You were still questioning the possibility in 1045. 1053 (or 52, memory's fuzzing), LLD basically makes up her mind that allowing Noraa to shoot is bad. You do unvote first in the VERY next post, you do question the wisdom of the hard push first, but LLD makes the pivotal statement first. I consider that LLD going first, but I admit it's arguable.

PEDIT: I do believe a red Noraa flip clears Pooky. I also agree with MURDERCAT that no clear gives Noraa any town following, and I think that's also true of Pooky.

Toogeloo · Post Post #2777 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:24 pm

To prepare you all in advance, when I get the first scroll, I'd like everyone's preferred Scroll #2 wielder listed by their top 5 choices, in order. Whether I use this information or not, you will not know.

Toogeloo · Post Post #2778 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:25 pm

Failure to submit a top 5 list for Scroll #2 might make me just use Scroll #2 on you instead.

Noraa · Post Post #2779 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:28 pm

Dictator Toog is subbing in for Queen Noraa for a bit.

Noraa · Post Post #2780 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:28 pm

I'll think on it.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2781 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:33 pm

In post 2776, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:You were still questioning the possibility in 1045. 1053 (or 52, memory's fuzzing), LLD basically makes up her mind that allowing Noraa to shoot is bad. You do unvote first in the VERY next post, you do question the wisdom of the hard push first, but LLD makes the pivotal statement first. I consider that LLD going first, but I admit it's arguable.

PEDIT: I do believe a red Noraa flip clears Pooky. I also agree with MURDERCAT that no clear gives Noraa any town following, and I think that's also true of Pooky.

I don't even want to lead this town lol

Toogeloo · Post Post #2782 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:35 pm

In post 2779, Noraa wrote:Dictator Toog is subbing in for Queen Noraa for a bit.

Being first has some privledges.

MUSHSHAGANA · Post Post #2783 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:39 pm

God, I really am glad we got Toog to head this. Basically best case scenario it's looking like.

Hopkirk
Pooky
Shellyc
Zdenek
Lapsa

This is in order of what I think is valuable to town, not order of scumminess. I scumread (at least a bit) every slot listed, regardless.
My Hopkirk case has been gone into. A bit gut, dislike of the reads, disliking the combination of early gimmick posting and early joke/sarcasm posting, recognition of Hopkirk as probably a player who is very dangerous as scum. Number 2 scumread, but the danger and the lack of useful content to play off of bumps this slot up.
Pooky is hyper-active and has a lot more town sway than I'd like for my number 3 scumread. Pooky red clears Noraa. Pooky's postcount in thread may be a major contributor to the thread bloat (uncertain).
Shellyc is largely sheeping Hopkirk's garbo reads and propping up Hopkirk as a town contributor in an adverse environment. Some weak out of date meta brought up about Shelly hard-tunnelling as scum and being more uncertain as town. I don't trust myself to read this slot well, but I think this is one of the only cases where a red Shelly indicates a red Hopkirk, so that's valuable.
Zdenek: number one scumread. I think if this slot isn't scum I'll need to buy a hat to cut up, deep fry and eat. I see absolutely not one single solitary hint of town play in it. That said, the slot is weak and they give us little to no information.
Lapsa is blatantly obvious. Shitposting, self-voting, lurking. If they aren't scum they're gamethrowing town and we should eliminate there sooner than later no matter what... but they're such a universal scumread and their play is so unspeakably bad that I think their alignment is the hardest one to determine in this game. Essentially a policy elimination, I think we get no guarantees of hitting scum here.

Hectic · Post Post #2784 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:43 pm

In post 2772, shellyc wrote:mod I was voting toogelooo

I've amended this on all the relevant VCs.

shellyc · Post Post #2785 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:01 pm

Noraa
UNOwen
Bell
Lapsa
Vaxkiller

explanations when im off work

Titus · Post Post #2786 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:25 pm

I'll do this tomorrow. Hopefully my raging stress headache will be gone by then.

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2787 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:29 pm

In post 2616, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 74, Tayl0r Swift wrote:FIRST

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

also in the event that we hit scum first, we should still do our darndest to hit scum on the second shot. i think its a bad play to hit town on purpose.
There's your first self vote... page 3.

yeah compare that to the actual first post of the game:

In post 5, shellyc wrote:FIRST

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2788 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:32 pm

In post 2634, Toogeloo wrote:Still Vax replaced Isis. ... if that's relevant.

it is because isis was town

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2789 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:33 pm

In post 2652, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2649, Noraa wrote:Hey guys so I did a wee bit of pooky meta diving and according to the most recent finished games, scum!Pooky is full of fluff and extremely spammy whereas town!Pooky is only half full of fluff and actually ... rather quiet
might have more to do with who is in the game than what alignment I get :3

isis was in this game though. this doesnt remind me at all of matrix decipher.

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2790 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:34 pm

in matrix decipher isis also said she couldnt wait to roll scum in a game where you were town. if you were both scum youd both be very excited. so based on your interactions isis must be town and you (almost) must be scum

Vaxkiller · Post Post #2791 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:36 pm

im drunk, can we plxz kill someone else than toog

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2792 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:37 pm

oh im glad you brought up matrix decipher so I can use it to meta you.

Scum!Taylor started shading Pooky!town in that game for absolutely no good reason.

kinda reminds me of what's going on here.

Vaxkiller · Post Post #2793 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:38 pm

il actually join any other wagon besides nora or toogs at the moment

so many to choose from

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2794 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:38 pm

In post 2685, Adorable wrote:These are the players I have been town reading.

MURDERCAT
LL
Hopkirk
Theta
Shelly
Taylor

who is LL? talk to me about hopkirk theta and shelly?

Vaxkiller · Post Post #2795 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:39 pm

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2796 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:39 pm

In post 2688, Noraa wrote:Mush gave the yes. VOTE: Toog

why is it up to mush?

Tayl0r Swift · Post Post #2797 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:40 pm

In post 2693, shellyc wrote:
In post 2540, Hopkirk wrote:Thoughts on Flea? Nothing pinged me as town and there's a few bits I didn't like. Not enough content for a strong read either way though.
slight townlean because newbtown tone and none of the play seems artificial/coached

if shelly is scum then flea is too

Noraa · Post Post #2798 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:02 pm

In post 2796, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 2688, Noraa wrote:Mush gave the yes. VOTE: Toog
why is it up to mush?

I trust in Mush's reads and decisions somewhere close to my trust in 72's. In Roses, 72 nailed both scum day 1. I sheeped it entirely. No shame

Noraa · Post Post #2799 (ISO) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:02 pm

Mush nailed me as scum in OTD super duper fast too