Death Curse

[Hectic]

Toogeloo

is the

scroll bearer!

They now have 2 days to pick a player they'd like to pass the scroll to, using a VOTE:

I'll allow placeholder votes using the HURT: tags in the event the player is afraid they'll forget to pass it on. The person it's passed to will simply default to the placeholder they've put down earlier.
If no placeholder vote was used, I'll pick the last living/non-cursed player the scroll bearer has voted in the game to receive the scroll.
If the above is not applicable, I'll allow mafia to pick.

Timer: (expired on 2020-10-29 17:26:39)

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I went to sleep feeling dread: the wagon would stall, it would fragment, momentum would be killed, no one would be able to jump-start it again and we'd lose control of the initial scroll trajectory and probably lose an obvtown.

I woke up to this. Toog's the scrollbearer and is running a campaign of /menace/. I love this. I feel hope for town.

I also am getting SO MANY GOOD AI POSTS out of the Toog-stomp. Keep it up. This is brilliant. It sucks we can't get two scum hits this game day, but this is probably the best possible outcome of that. Hell, it even got Lapsa to actually post. Just shitpost, but there's still posting there.

[Toogeloo]

I am now scroll bearer. There is no excuse. Give me your 5 ranked names if you haven't done so.

[Theta Alpine]

i do not think that is a good idea and i am willing to take the scroll because of it

[Noraa]

do not think what is a good idea?

[Theta Alpine]

the names of people you would give a scroll to

that lets scum semi-control two kills

[Toogeloo]

Scum control nothing. I alone control the scroll.

[Toogeloo]

What do you possibly think scum can gleam from a list of names people want as scroll bearers that they can't glean from reading the thread and people's reads?

It seems more to me you refuse to commit reads so you can't be held accountable later.

[Toogeloo]

glean*

stupid phone posting.

[Noraa]

Murder also thinks its dumb but I can't remember why

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I'm going to follow Toog on this one. What do you have to hide, Theta? Why not post your scumreads? Hell, I made /cases/ for mine. You know, because I'd hope to see those slots get eliminated anyway. As town /should/ here. Considering that /eliminating scum is how town wins./ And considering that in this setup, like most mafia setups, /town can't hit scum without convincing each other who scum is./ Which means /town should never hide their reads unless they have a plan around it/. You ain't gambiting here, you have no control and no say in how the game plays out currently, Toog rules this roost. So post your reads or claim scum and go.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

What is /dumb/ is saying "scrollbearer MUST FOLLOW TOWN." That leashes the scroll and lets scum influence the trajectory from the outside, without becoming targets themselves necessarily.

Toog is their own person here, and wants the information. Toog has promised nothing and offers nothing in exchange. The scroll isn't being leashed, information is just being shared. Best case scenario.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

theta isnt even trying to hide his scuminess lol

[Toogeloo]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa Taylor Unowen Theta Alpine Vaxkiller

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Empty

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Empty

MURDERCAT
Empty

UNOwen
shellyc Lapsa Hopkirk Pooky Zdenek

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
Empty

Adorable
Empty

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
shellyc UNOwen Hopkirk Titus Zdenek

Vaxkiller
bell pooky shellyc unowen tswift

Fidget
Empty

[Theta Alpine]

her

and you are absolutely right in that i am not even trying to hide my scuminess
because i cannot
even as town i cannot hide my scuminess

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am sorry for misgendering you - my apologies.

[Hopkirk]

Unown
Fidget
Vax
Flea
Bell

[MURDERCAT]

i do not think that is a good idea and i am willing to take the scroll because of it

[Fidget]

I am not sure why Theta/Murder don't want to give reads. If scum chooses to kill me or not kill me for something I have said, I trust that will be brought to light down the line.

I'm going to cheat somewhat because I don't have solid scumreads out of the pool of 10ish people I would consider passing the scroll, and I might not have time to find those preferences.

Don't give it to Lady, Murder, Bell, Hopkirk, Pooky or Mush. I slightly lean against throwing it at Theta but could be wrong. Hopkirk I have some capacity to be wrong on because I have not analyzed him deeply, but I'll reevaluate later.

If I had the scroll right now and I had to hit scum to win, I'd throw it at shelly. If I had the scroll and I just wanted to get the most information out of a flip as possible, I'd throw it at Noraa or Tayl0r. If all three of these players became scroll-immune, I would throw it at.... likely Lapsa or Adorable.

Zdenek/Vax/Titus/UNOwen/Gloria all have capacity to be scum but I do not have enough of an opinion on them yet.

[Fidget]

What is /dumb/ is saying "scrollbearer MUST FOLLOW TOWN." That leashes the scroll and lets scum influence the trajectory from the outside, without becoming targets themselves necessarily.

Toog is their own person here, and wants the information. Toog has promised nothing and offers nothing in exchange. The scroll isn't being leashed, information is just being shared. Best case scenario.

I am inclined to agree, and I do not think this benefits scum sharing who we are thinking about throwing the scroll to. It's all a WIFOM game, we can share or not share. If we share, scum has the opportunity to target those who scumread them, but it's all a WIFOM game. I prefer playing on the side of "share our thoughts and see what happens" over "everyone close ourselves off until the point we receive the scroll".

[Fidget]

shellyc
Tayl0r
Noraa
Lapsa
Adorable

[Lapsa]

Noraa
Pooky
Adorable
Lapsa
Theta

Subject to change. Not ranked.

Could you please rank them.

Pick number three my lord!

[Lapsa]

the names of people you would give a scroll to

that lets scum semi-control two kills

It's as if you can pass it only once.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I really don't get how sharing our Day 1 garbo reads in an ordered list like you do in every other game because that's how you prioritize pushes and build a townbloc could be construed as dangerous to town when they're damn near guaranteed to change at least a little after flips and damn near guaranteed to be wrong right now why the hell are MURDERCAT and Theta doing this nothing comes out of keeping your reads secret except madness and horror and death /stop your foolish lies/ **WHEEZE**.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

What's especially funny about this is MURDERCAT has been pushing a 5 player game solve and now won't add another name to the list (since Toog's off the board effectively) to just move things along. Theta has posted reads lists at least once. They literally are just avoiding THE COMMITMENT. It's not even in character with their earlier goddamned play.