Death Curse

[Noraa]

Well, tbh, I feel like scum!Toog in his current position would NOT reveal he is scum otherwise town would immediately start plotting and planning in our evil ways lel and try to hit a buddy of his on the third scroll. If he doesn't reveal, his voice still matters and can manipulate us to hit two town after him :/
So that was a bit of defending murder. I am not sure where I stand in this argument. I feel rather meh on it. Like I'm fine with saying all my reads and I really don't see a huge harm cuz like ... I highly doubt anyone's solve is right and so no ones gonna get killed for a good solve anyways

[MURDERCAT]

I really don't get how sharing our Day 1 garbo reads in an ordered list like you do in every other game because that's how you prioritize pushes and build a townbloc could be construed as dangerous to town when they're damn near guaranteed to change at least a little after flips and damn near guaranteed to be wrong right now why the hell are MURDERCAT and Theta doing this nothing comes out of keeping your reads secret except madness and horror and death /stop your foolish lies/ **WHEEZE**.

First of all, my reads aren't secret. Second of all, the main thing I don't like is that it is ordered. Because what happens right now if Toog is scum is they pick any townie who doesn't have a buddy in slot 1.

[Toogeloo]

I might or might not be totally giving weighted values to the rankings and eliminating the one with highest value. Or I could totally be waiting specifically for you and Theta so I know who not to scroll so that my 4 buddies can escape scrolls themselves and sweep the game.

[Toogeloo]

Of course, I could be waiting for all this information so that I can then tell you all my pick of 5 scum team and demand your paragon votes at game's end.

[Toogeloo]

Maybe I just like wasting everyone's time and will submit my vote at 1d23h59m55s.

[Toogeloo]

Maybe I'm a vindictive little shitter who just got killed and would much rather just see the whole game burn...

[Toogeloo]

Hmmm...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you should put a placeholder hurt in just to get that person to spew anyway it'd be a fun reaction test

[Fidget]

I really don't get how sharing our Day 1 garbo reads in an ordered list like you do in every other game because that's how you prioritize pushes and build a townbloc could be construed as dangerous to town when they're damn near guaranteed to change at least a little after flips and damn near guaranteed to be wrong right now why the hell are MURDERCAT and Theta doing this nothing comes out of keeping your reads secret except madness and horror and death /stop your foolish lies/ **WHEEZE**.

First of all, my reads aren't secret. Second of all, the main thing I don't like is that it is ordered. Because what happens right now if Toog is scum is they pick any townie who doesn't have a buddy in slot 1.

We still hit scum in that case, though. And we'll have that knowledge of who they chose tomorrow.

And even then, maybe I shoot my #1 if they give me the scroll, maybe I don't. I'm actually going to think harder than a rapid fire list of 5 names if I have to make a real decision, I imagine this is true for others too.

[MURDERCAT]

I mean I maintain the fact that I am heavily town read and that, for that reason, I am a likely scroll target by scum. So I in particular don't want to share my ranking. I don't think town you ever seriously considers passing the scroll to me, and you know what my reads are overall. So it's all downside if I tell you tbh.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're not that heavily townread dude

[MURDERCAT]

[Toogeloo]

I wonder if the mod will let me send them my choice in secret... Even though the next time the mod posts my choice will be revealed. It'd feel more like a NK in a nightless game .

[Bell]

Maybe you can ask the mod to do an announcement or provide a gif.
Or both.

[Toogeloo]

Barring some cracking the game wide open, I'm willing to bet scum already have some general ideas of who they'd kill if given a scroll already.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Honestly, ordering them /already happens,/ MURDERCAT. Look at the thread. Most reads-lists are at least 80% ordered and this game has been no exception. Even outside of reads-lists you have people talking about their preferences for who gets the scroll -- the order is implied strongly enough that if it was a real benefit to scum, they'd /have it already/. If Toog gave a fuck I'm sure they could get your answer and order without you offering it up, and that goes for every non-lurker in the player list. Come on, don't be stupid here.

Also, how the hell is passing the scroll off on someone who doesn't have a buddy in slot 1 better for scum than doing the same exact thing only using NK and based on readslists in a totally ordinary Mafia game? This argument is trash and also stupid.

[Toogeloo]

You not telling me your choices isn't going to somehow magically open their eyes to the rest of your content.

Besides... In mafia, only scum is afraid of dying. Town only dies to scum if they've done something right, and it should be a badge of honor.

[MURDERCAT]

Honestly, ordering them /already happens,/ MURDERCAT. Look at the thread. Most reads-lists are at least 80% ordered and this game has been no exception. Even outside of reads-lists you have people talking about their preferences for who gets the scroll -- the order is implied strongly enough that if it was a real benefit to scum, they'd /have it already/. If Toog gave a fuck I'm sure they could get your answer and order without you offering it up, and that goes for every non-lurker in the player list. Come on, don't be stupid here.

Also, how the hell is passing the scroll off on someone who doesn't have a buddy in slot 1 better for scum than doing the same exact thing only using NK and based on readslists in a totally ordinary Mafia game? This argument is trash and also stupid.

Yeah I mean that's fine in general. But can you explain why I in particular should give an order?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Also, reminder that if we hit scum with Toog we are already on track to win and the next stop on the scroll's path is less important. Oh yes. Especially if people remember that /the second scrollbearer is functionally conftown and should be worked with/ -- hey, not dissimilar to what we're doing here since /it doesn't matter anyway, they can only be town and scum and if we hit scum we hit damn scum/.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Mostly, MURDERCAT? Because you look like scum right now.

[Toogeloo]

I 100% promise you that I will expedite my scroll choice as soon as I have everything I requested.

[MURDERCAT]

I 100% promise you that I will expedite my scroll choice as soon as I have everything I requested.

Fine.

Pooky
Vax
Shelly
Lapsa




Noraa

[Toogeloo]

PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa Taylor Unowen Theta Alpine Vaxkiller

Tayl0r Swift
pooky unowen bell noraa shelly

Gloria Cleary
Empty

shellyc
Noraa UNOwen Bell Lapsa Vaxkiller

Hopkirk
Unown Fidget Vax Flea Bell

Theta Alpine
Empty

Bell
Taylor Zdenek Lapsa. Flea VaxKiller

Zdenek
Empty

Titus
Empty

MURDERCAT
Pooky Vax Shelly Lapsa Noraa

UNOwen
shellyc Lapsa Hopkirk Pooky Zdenek

MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk Pooky Shellyc Zdenek Lapsa

Flea The Magician
Empty

Adorable
Empty

Lady Lambdadelta
Empty

Noraa
Fidget Shellyc Titus Pooky Lapsa

Lapsa
shellyc UNOwen Hopkirk Titus Zdenek

Vaxkiller
bell pooky shellyc unowen tswift

Fidget
shellyc Tayl0r Noraa Lapsa Adorable

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh no! You've placed the second to last stone in the circle of doom, and now we are all fated to a terrible death! This town is done for!

Wait, hold on...

...

My producers have told me that absolutely nothing bad has happened.

But when Theta Alpine places that last stone in the circle, we SURELY will ALL be --

...

Ahem. Sorry. No, not then either.

[Toogeloo]

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