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I support the righteous and glorious lilith wagon, but recognize that my efforts have a fairly decent chance of being futile today due to her position in the draftIn post 625, Dunnstral wrote:I like this wagon
But i shall continue to pursue my quest regardlessShowHiatus once more.
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I dont really see scum!petaShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx- Dunnstral
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I don't normally comment on stuff I agree with or butt into other people's conversations.In post 552, Uncrowned wrote:Is there a reason you've singled out TGP here while ignoring most of the others slots in the game?A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- davesaz
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More focus on posting and less on numbers.In post 553, Hoopla wrote:i also just realised jackson virgo is in the group of 4's. this is shocking play on my part. there's no way i'm executing from that bracket on D1.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- davesaz
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If there are multiple 4's, one of them would want to make this argument.In post 559, Hoopla wrote:there is max one scum amongst us 4's, unless a zany gambit is afoot.
If I had rolled scum I totally planned to talk the team into doubling or tripling just to break the numbers game.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- davesaz
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Nah, never underestimate the power of an early bus. It's basically without risk and can establish anti-associatives if too many people think this way.In post 561, Uncrowned wrote:Hoopla's joining of your wagon though makes me believe that if one of you is scum, the other will not be.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- skitter30
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This focus on doubles/multiples is boring and wifom-yShowHiatus once more.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx- davesaz
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My experience is mostly the underwhelming games.In post 584, skitter30 wrote:
He has towngames like the one you describe, but he also has towngames where he's more underwhelming and absentIn post 576, Hoopla wrote:dunnstral - played a game as scum against him recently, and he was a dominant voice on D1 that seemed quite obviously town. granted, i had confirmed info that game which can sometimes trick you into thinking someone is more town than they actually are, but i haven't seen similar town energy from him yet.
I approve of your assessment of me : thumbsup:A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- TheGoldenParadox
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to clarify, and give better reasons for my reads since a lot of people have been questioning/attacking my posting: I strongly think Penguin is scum because of his interactions with other players in the game, as well as reasons I cannot talk about because of ongoing games.
I also, separately, read Hoopla as scum because of her vote hopping and what looks to be a very opportunistic mindset where the goal is miselimination rather than scum hunting and finding town, and in that regard, the above quote is really bad - you shouldn't be "tricked" into attacking people unless your reads aren't actually genuine.In post 576, Hoopla wrote:she also tricked me into attacking a fellow member of the 4 bracket!
Finally, I think the probability of them being scumtogetheris extremely high to the point where if i'm right on hoopla, penguin is almost guaranteed scum. this is due to three reasons - first, Penguin's interaction with Hoopla in 240 as well as Hoopla's ignoring of Penguin. second, they both chose the number 4. which leads into the third reason:
hoopla has done a TON of work this game convincing people that there's max one scum in the 4s. if there is one scum, and she's town, then eliminating randomly in the 4s (1/3) has a better chance of hitting scum than eliminating randomly in the rest of the PL (1/5).sure, there might be 0 scum, but the especially problematic part is that she COMPLETELY ignores the 4s for reads purposes. thus, i think the scumteam including penguin and hoopla is extremely likely, and I also think that that third member of the scumteam ISN'T a 4 (because having 2 members as 4s and 1 member outside that group seems most reasonable from a scum!hoopla perspective). i would wager that this is a scum gambit that backfired because both me and JV also chose 4, therefore catapulting the two to the bottom of the draft pick instead of somewhere around the middle where they otherwise would be.
VOTE: hoopla thinking about it more, not only am i inclined to believe hoopla is strongly scum from the above, i also believe that Hoopla flipping red absolutely condemns Penguin whereas the opposite is not necessarily the case, and so this is a better elimination for today.- davesaz
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Exactly, the numbers should be the last thing on our minds d1. It doesn't actually become relevant until someone early in the draft doesn't get NK'd.In post 590, JacksonVirgo wrote:I don't like the fact they refuse to read in the 4s or whatnot, I feel that's just stupid for town to do.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- davesaz
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I have not looked at all previous runs, but AFAIK there has always been at least one PR that is not chosen in the draft.In post 594, JacksonVirgo wrote:Is there a world where all the PRs are active btw?A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- davesaz
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It doesn't appear on my browser, so I think it shows based on the client-side timestamp. Happy scumday in advance I guess?In post 612, JacksonVirgo wrote:Get fucked Hoopa I now have the cake!A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community- Something_Smart
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Yes, but that's not the point.In post 544, JacksonVirgo wrote:Uh, what? Natural is not a convoluted way of saying good.
The point is faking reads as scum isn't hard, because they don't have to be super nuanced and complex-- because usually town's reads are not all that nuanced or complex.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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You think that bracket is likely to be all town?In post 553, Hoopla wrote:i also just realised jackson virgo is in the group of 4's. this is shocking play on my part. there's no way i'm executing from that bracket on D1.
i apologise to jackson virgo for my overeagerness.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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It seems mostly accurate and I would like to hear a response from dave if he hasn't given one yet.In post 565, Uncrowned wrote:sorry to be self-indulgent but do you have any thoughts on Post 552Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Maybe?In post 583, skitter30 wrote:Except town!her usually brings a lot more content, is more focused, doesn't ask inane questions which basically dont go anywhere (but this is something she does as scum!), and is capable of quickly becoming an obvtown force to be reckoned with
I don't feel like she exhibited these characteristics that much in the last game I played with her. She did become obvtown but like on D4 after I died, and I died still being paranoid of her.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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I took some stats on this setup a little while back. (I can link them if anyone's curious.) They don't directly answer this but I think from collecting them I recall this happening only a few times out of 15. Usually at least one is missed.In post 594, JacksonVirgo wrote:Is there a world where all the PRs are active btw?Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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I mean, they're just commenting on a lot of things, full stop.In post 601, petapan wrote:you seem to be commenting on a lot of trivial thingsShame on a martyr claiming friends
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Wouldn't it make more sense to vote PP first then?In post 637, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if i'm right on hoopla, penguin is almost guaranteed scum.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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