Death Curse

[Noraa]

Ur going to null. Im pretty paranoid now cuz I dont think u fit in the solve but that was scary.

[Tayl0r Swift]

it could be town!taylor toying with you and also being bold and thinking that in the end youll see through it.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Ur going to null. Im pretty paranoid now cuz I dont think u fit in the solve but that was scary.

[Fidget]

God, Taylor, WHY
I was so damn confident in my TR of you and now its all come crashing down. You have successfully made me extremely paranoid.
In trials, I got pocketed by you so easily its not even funny because I literally BELIEVED that you thought I was truly town and I was happy you could read me. But now you pull almost the exact same play.
I sincerely can't tell if this is town!Taylor being bold and thinking I can still tell you are town thru the paranoid or if this is scum!Taylor purposefully toying with my reads.

Did you really think you could locktown tayl0r off her defending you?

I want to pick a 1v1 with one of the many people scumreading me so I can have something to focus on. If I disregard tayl0r's reaction to LLD, maybe it'll be her. Off the top of my head, she's been fairly high effort which she will do as scum (as demonstrated in Trials), white knighted Noraa in a way that didn't obvtown her for me like it did Mush, is probably incorrectly scumreading Bell/Pooky, and is now 180ing on me so I feel more emotionally involved in it (that's not a point against her, but it does make me more interested). Beyond that I'd have to actually go back and read.

Or maybe that's a silly endeavor and shelly!scum is the way. I'll figure it out later.

[Noraa]

No I had her as locktown for other reasons here
but in trials, I was pocketed hard after she called me town and I'm getting super paranoid bc she just called me town without giving a good reason. In trials she said I had secret town tells that I was unaware of.

[Tayl0r Swift]

No I had her as locktown for other reasons here
but in trials, I was pocketed hard after she called me town and I'm getting super paranoid bc she just called me town without giving a good reason. In trials she said I had secret town tells that I was unaware of.

for the record the thing about town tells was true.

[Tayl0r Swift]

for instance your reaction to me townreading you is very highly town indicative for you

[Adorable]

Vaxkiller
Lapsa
Noraa
Fidget
UNOwen

This reads list does not line up with what you had previously said for a VERY long time. Perhaps my town pass was given too easily. I retract it.

Oo I wanna hear more about this. Actually, Adorable has only 15 posts, I think I can handle it.

She scumreads Noraa for A.) reasons we've been through obviously and B.) for voting her + leaving her vote on her even after reading her as newbtown
She scumreads UNOwen for suspecting her when she voted Noraa, thinking he was setting up Adorable as a partner to scum!Noraa
Amazingly enough she ALSO scumreads Vaxkiller for voting her and leaving their vote on her.
And finally, she scumreads Lapsa for switching his vote to her.
Perhaps I should add that I suspect her and am also on the list?

She's awfully cognizant and hostile towards those suspecting her, although I am not familiar enough with Adorable to know if she would do that as town too. The main thing I know about Adorable is that she town-slipped in every game I have ever played with her where she was town, lol

On your last paragraph you said I town slipped in every game I have played with you and what you said is a lie because I have never played any games with you. Hopkirk asked you if you're an alt and you said no. I have around 13-15 completed games and I have only town slipped in 2 games. On your list of 5 players you named I did not like how you put 2 of my town reads on your list and you also put me on your list. What were the games you have played with me before? I have never played with anyone before by the name of Fidget.

Actually

Vaxkiller's play makes no sense. Earlier he randomly votes me and then says Bell is shading but still leaves his vote on me. On #2509 Vaxkiller said he's glad he voted you but he never voted you and he lied. Lapsa's vote switch on me when a wagon started to build on Toogeloo during my absence looked sus.

Do you no longer think Isis town reading Theta was a town-leaning thing to do?

I started to get sus of Vaxkiller's play to the point when I had to reread Isis iso. I originally thought #680 was the first time Isis town read Theta because of post #101 and when I reread through Isis iso, I did not remember Isis putting a town read on Theta on #449 and I wasn't able to see why was that post towny.

@Noraa For #3482 I still haven't fully changed my read on you and I am not able to understand your play. When the game started you tried to push me, later on you change your read on me and call me newbtown and put Fidget, Shelly, and Toogeroo on your scum reads and since you put these 3 players on your scum reads, then why did you not try to push them?

[Noraa]

^the above post makes me feel you aren't a noob but you gave off so many noob vibes early on.
Also you are 10/10 lurking confirmed. You rarely post and each time you do the bare bare minimum of just HEY you pinged me in the server so I'll reply.
I have pushed Fidget the most. Toog changed to a TR. Shelly is still scummy but I dont wanna deal with her atm. I have other SRs as well but anyways, you are still a TR but I fail to understand why you do a lot of things you do.

[Adorable]

^the above post makes me feel you aren't a noob but you gave off so many noob vibes early on.
Also you are 10/10 lurking confirmed. You rarely post and each time you do the bare bare minimum of just HEY you pinged me in the server so I'll reply.
I have pushed Fidget the most. Toog changed to a TR. Shelly is still scummy but I dont wanna deal with her atm. I have other SRs as well but anyways, you are still a TR but I fail to understand why you do a lot of things you do.

Why did you not vote Fidget after unvoting me?

[Titus]

@Tayl0r How do you respond to the allegation that Noraa is scum because they faked a scumslip and she admitted that's her meta as scum?

@Noraa, I strongly lean Taylor town here. She didn't pick fights like this as scum in the other game.

[Tayl0r Swift]

@Tayl0r How do you respond to the allegation that Noraa is scum because they faked a scumslip and she admitted that's her meta as scum?

@Noraa, I strongly lean Taylor town here. She didn't pick fights like this as scum in the other game.

i mean its pretty scummy to fake a townslip. but i dont think that alone is enough to sort noraa as scum.

[Noraa]

Why did you not vote Fidget after unvoting me?

Im not starting vanity wagons. Fidget was pretty consensus town and I saw no point in wasting my vote there however rn when the decision is made by one person, I do not think voicing my opinion is a bad idea.

@Noraa, I strongly lean Taylor town here. She didn't pick fights like this as scum in the other game.

Let's say Taylor is town(I am no longer convinced I must say). Why would you care what scum!Noraa thinks about town!Taylor's alignment?

i mean its pretty scummy to fake a townslip. but i dont think that alone is enough to sort noraa as scum.

I didn't fake it. I sincerely did not know at the time and I've literally repeated like ten billion times why I said that. Sure I said I faked townslips in my scum games. SO? I had TWO ... TWO finished scum games. Faking townslips in TWO finished scum games where I was encouraged to use my noob card hard is nothing strange. PLUS it doesn't even mean anything cuz what you purposefully do as scum, you only purposefully do because you KNOW you do it as town.

[Tayl0r Swift]

I didn't fake it. I sincerely did not know at the time and I've literally repeated like ten billion times why I said that. Sure I said I faked townslips in my scum games. SO? I had TWO ... TWO finished scum games. Faking townslips in TWO finished scum games where I was encouraged to use my noob card hard is nothing strange. PLUS it doesn't even mean anything cuz what you purposefully do as scum, you only purposefully do because you KNOW you do it as town.

oh sorry. i mean the townslip in general is scummy. but i think it was probably an accident. i still have you as town. but even if it was an accident, we cant know that so we have to treat it as something scum indicative. on balance though, i think its outweighed by other stuff youre doing.

[Noraa]

why am I town, Taylor?

[UNOwen]

That reveal needed a drum roll.
My recommendation is again shelly for dodging 2151 1000001 times.

[UNOwen]

Adorable makes a good point about Fidget's meta being a bit muddled. She speaks as though she has a bit of experience with Adorable as both alignments and acknowledges that Adorable's reads are reactive in this game but claims to not be familiar enough to know if this is AI, but I would think even a couple of games experience would be enough to have an idea.

I don't really see a scum case for Fidget beyond that though, was not a fan of the way she positioned around a Noraa scum flip that she was willing to put in third but plenty of players did that. She seems rational and cautious otherwise which I don't find compellingly scummy behaviour.

[Vaxkiller]

That reveal needed a drum roll.
My recommendation is again shelly for dodging 2151 1000001 times.

I want an answer too.

[Vaxkiller]

Shelly can u answer please.

[Hectic]

Toogeloo

has thrown the scroll to

Vaxkiller

!

Vaxkiller

is the new

scroll bearer!

They now have 2 days to pick a player they'd like to pass the scroll to, using a VOTE:

I'll allow placeholder votes using the HURT: tags in the event the player is afraid they'll forget to pass it on. The person it's passed to will simply default to the placeholder they've put down earlier.
If no placeholder vote was used, I'll pick the last living/non-cursed player the scroll bearer has voted in the game to receive the scroll.
If the above is not applicable, I'll allow mafia to pick.

Timer: (expired on 2020-10-30 19:02:47)

[Noraa]

Vax who are your top scroll picks? I want to ISO them and try to convince you of why fidget is the best choice. If my theory is correct, then this may be our last chance to hit scum today(I dont think Toog is scum cuz the reaction was simply too towny, I dont think vax is scum cuz scum wouldn't be shitting with us rn there aint no point for scum).

If you dont have any, the consensus(in general) looks something like {uno, fidget, shelly, taylor, pooky, me}
The rest ... some I SR but they are most definitely not consensus or even close so I see no point trying to sell that.

[Noraa]

I think we have to try to guarantee a scum in this last scroll pass otherwise we will have to hit two scums some other day to guarantee a win.

[Bell]

bell and pooky, what are your reads on fidget?

I thought she was scum but then she said she was disappointed in me and I never, ever want to disappoint someone.

@Noraa, LLD's pretty good. I figure if she still holds that read she has good reason for it. Hopkirk got two of his eliminations and struck out both times. Time to actually give someone with a reputation for being good a try rather than just the loudest voice in the room.

[Noraa]

She is currently the MOST inactive person in this entire game. If you dont believe me, check the activity overview. Besides, Nero, she has the longest period of "break"

[Noraa]

Plus who in the world ever said hopkirk was the town leader?